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Post by GHS 1999 on Sept 25, 2022 0:36:08 GMT -5
Random thoughts. Highland is unbeaten in the MOAC but has played the bottom three teams. R Valley and Shelby are both 4-2 but have two non-league wins each over teams who are a combined 2-10. Galion and CF have the top strength of schedules. The Colts have played Lucas, Granville, and R Valley. The Tigers have played a brutal schedule against CF, Shelby, McComb, and Carey. Those teams are a combined 20-4. CF has Pleasant and Harding the next two weeks and should easily be unbeaten in the MOAC going into week 9. My power rankings after week 6. 1. CF 2. R Valley 3. Galion 4. Highland 5. Shelby 6. Ontario 7. M Harding 8. Pleasant A very accurate assessment. Clear Fork is the team to beat as many thought they would be.
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Post by richrod on Sept 25, 2022 15:37:05 GMT -5
Shelby seems undisciplined and a little arrogant. Maybe Galion has humbled them and they get back to playing better ball.
If not, I think CF will smash them and win the league outright.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 25, 2022 20:05:23 GMT -5
It kind of look to me that Galionfan13 is another name for 13 year old Galion fan. That's being kind
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 25, 2022 20:11:26 GMT -5
Asking of wise Galion fans. What did Galion do differently? OR does McComb and Carey beat Shelby by 4 TDs?
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Post by GHS 1999 on Sept 26, 2022 11:14:07 GMT -5
Asking of wise Galion fans. What did Galion do differently? OR does McComb and Carey beat Shelby by 4 TDs? A different Galion team played Shelby no doubt. Galion had much more control of the line of scrimmage and they actually ran behind the best linemen.
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Post by dude on Sept 26, 2022 11:15:51 GMT -5
Shelby seems undisciplined and a little arrogant. Maybe Galion has humbled them and they get back to playing better ball. I thought the same thing when I saw them and it began with their coach.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 26, 2022 11:28:57 GMT -5
How does a team act arrogant? Maybe overconfident given their record and point differential considering the competition. I’ve seen all but two games and they have maybe 1-2 personal foul penalties. They could use a dose of mean and the Bellevue game proves that.
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Post by dude on Sept 26, 2022 11:42:48 GMT -5
How does a team act arrogant? Maybe overconfident given their record and point differential considering the competition. I’ve seen all but two games and they have maybe 1-2 personal foul penalties. They could use a dose of mean and the Bellevue game proves that. I'd say that people act arrogant but when enough people together do, it can be said that it was an arrogant group. Maybe your overconfidence is perceived as arrogance by another.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 26, 2022 12:25:08 GMT -5
How does a team act arrogant? Maybe overconfident given their record and point differential considering the competition. I’ve seen all but two games and they have maybe 1-2 personal foul penalties. They could use a dose of mean and the Bellevue game proves that. I'd say that people act arrogant but when enough people together do, it can be said that it was an arrogant group. Maybe your overconfidence is perceived as arrogance by another. I guess my point is how do you assess arrogance by the way a football player or a team plays? If they showboat in the end zone, strut around, etc I get that. They don’t. I’ve seen four of six games and a scrimmage. Nobody in the stands can hear their conversations so you can’t say you’ve heard them say arrogant things. It’s just an interesting choice of words and I’m asking for evidence of arrogant behavior in the team. I’m asking for an example.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 26, 2022 22:47:03 GMT -5
Did you watch the Clemson Wake Forrest game? Multiple Clemson players complaining to the officials about their calls. Lobbying for out of bounds or incomplete pass calls when obviously they were not. It is said that players often are the extension of the way their head coach comports himself.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 27, 2022 6:49:23 GMT -5
Everyone has described how A team can be arrogant. Nobody has pointed out an example of how THE TEAM IN QUESTION has been arrogant. Other than a couple of people from Shelby who post here has anyone seen them play more than once and a couple of highlights?
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Post by dude on Sept 27, 2022 8:57:11 GMT -5
How many times do you have to meet someone before you can think they are arrogant? This would be good to know because maybe some of us are not aware of the minimum exposure required.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Sept 27, 2022 10:21:03 GMT -5
The Shelby head coach has got to be one of the most tame football personalities I have ever come across. You should see how quickly he has tried to wrap up his annual Shelby football golf fundraiser speeches. The man has no desire to say more than what is necessary. The coaching staff I've spoken with have also noted his ability to defer and delegate instead of micromanaging the entire program. That is not a virtue the arrogant typically possess. I have been wrong before (roughly around 9:30pm on Friday, September 23rd for a recent example), but I have serious reservations about the idea that he was skirting preparation because it was "just" Galion.
I'll concede that some players may have gotten their thoughts carried away as to Galion's might (I was at a wedding reception during the game, so I am just assuming this as one can do with a bunch of 16-17 year olds thrown into a starting role this season), but there's a learning curve for new players when it comes to figuring out "we are supposed to win if we execute" and "we can't possibly lose if we execute" on a team without a bona-fide crop of leaders like the program has been blessed to have over the past half decade. Hard to learn that distinction until you slam into it.
I always try to view group/team dynamics through a simplistic definition of team development:
Forming Norming Storming Performing
Shelby had a more aggressive need for those first two steps this year than in previous years with a load of returning players understanding their norms. I would call losing to Galion a storm. Do they regroup and actualize into a performing group? We'll see.
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Post by richrod on Sept 27, 2022 18:11:28 GMT -5
How does a team act arrogant? Maybe overconfident given their record and point differential considering the competition. I’ve seen all but two games and they have maybe 1-2 personal foul penalties. They could use a dose of mean and the Bellevue game proves that. I'd say that people act arrogant but when enough people together do, it can be said that it was an arrogant group. Maybe your overconfidence is perceived as arrogance by another. Bingo. Its the way they go about doing things. The constant talking and I have seen more than 1-2 personal foul penalties in the 4 games I have went to. They had 4 alone against Bellevue including the coaches in those. The head coach is not, the coaches really don't seem to be, its the kids and it starts with the leadership, I feel like the discipline of this team is just not what it used to be.
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