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Post by dude on Feb 24, 2024 7:50:08 GMT -5
Shelby was deeper and bigger. Willard needed to play a near perfect game and Shelby just took advantage of our cold shooting and made a lot of easy shots on transition or offense rebounds. I expect to see Shelby vs Luth West at BG I was expecting to see a little better defense from Willard. The number of uncontested layups was a shocker. According to the OH Report, Willard had more offensive rebounds than Shelby.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Feb 24, 2024 8:10:35 GMT -5
Do you mean the officials DIDN’T determine the outcome of the game? It was an over 20 point differential. The officials would have to lose their credentials if they influenced the game that much. They did not. Both team have complaints. other than the timeout goof, i thought the Officials did an outstanding job
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 24, 2024 8:38:41 GMT -5
Don't forget when Willard had technical free throws in the second half and Baker on Shelby had to tell them that they were bringing Dawson to the wrong side of the court to shoot them.
Refs didn't have much of a role in the game, but that and the timeout fiasco were mistakes that go beyond "oh I didn't like that foul call."
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 24, 2024 8:42:14 GMT -5
The first quarter in the game was close, and rather stressful. Though Alex went 0-4 or 0-5 from 3 in that quarter. Scoreless overall. The rest of the starters did great to keep Shelby in the game. Lantz and Ramsey have been playing so great lately that it was a matter of time before Alex heated up and gave Willard the business.
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Post by dude on Feb 24, 2024 8:46:42 GMT -5
Galion this year should have never scheduled Lucas, Buckeye Central, and Mount Gilead. They have no business playing against those smaller schools. They don't want to play tougher teams outside of the conference and that thread will continue in the future. They're gonna drop Bellevue because they got embarrassed by their former coach and Lexington will drop Galion eventually to play a much tougher opponent. They might look good in the scorebook, but in reality we'll be playing terrible teams in the years to come For years some coaches and ADs have been making sure they had winnable games on their schedules. This could have been the year when Galion played a little tougher schedule and maybe been 8-14 instead of 11-11 but been a better program because of it. The seniors may not get the stats in their final season but your underclassmen will see better games and could be better. No offense intended to BC but D2 Galion scheduling them back in 2010-2016 is one thing but scheduling them since 2020 is not the same. Hard to argue with some things as even D2 Willard who has the best player in the area scheduled Lucas this season.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 24, 2024 8:47:53 GMT -5
As a WHS alum i knew Shelby would be a major challenge, even at the Haas . When you beat Findlay and dang near beat OG ,,, thats a strong team.
Flashes are just a few too many boys over to be a D3 school division. Shelby snd Lex just have a much larger talent pool to draw from.
I expect a Shelby vs Lex final . That ought to be a real battle.
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Post by baldref on Feb 24, 2024 8:51:52 GMT -5
Speaking of refs, how does a team call a timeout when the opponent has the ball? Unless the rules have changed, and unless the refs see an injured player etc, the defense is not permitted to call a TO without possession
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Post by cbus on Feb 24, 2024 9:18:26 GMT -5
Shelby was deeper and bigger. Willard needed to play a near perfect game and Shelby just took advantage of our cold shooting and made a lot of easy shots on transition or offense rebounds. I expect to see Shelby vs Luth West at BG I haven't seen Lexington this year but somehow they beat this Shelby team in late December. Maybe Shelby has improved since then.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Feb 24, 2024 9:23:03 GMT -5
Don't forget when Willard had technical free throws in the second half and Baker on Shelby had to tell them that they were bringing Dawson to the wrong side of the court to shoot them. Refs didn't have much of a role in the game, but that and the timeout fiasco were mistakes that go beyond "oh I didn't like that foul call." yeah, that was strange
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 24, 2024 9:27:56 GMT -5
Cbus, that seems to be the assessment.
Starters Lantz, Ramsey, and DeVito all were in football playoffs until November 10th. Homan off the bench was too, as was Tanner Hartz (on top of nursing an injury and didn't get his first minutes until the OG game). In December, the team wasn't playing at the level they are now. Against OG and Lex, Bruskotter was comfortable with the ball and it seemed as though most others weren't. The off-ball movement was stale on top of that. Give credit where it is due, OG and Lex have that effect on teams. That said, subsequent River Valley, Marion Harding, and Findlay show that our whole roster seems to "get it" right now. The scoring is as balanced as it has been all year long, where Shelby winds up with 3-4 guys in double figures.
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Post by sport24278 on Feb 24, 2024 10:54:49 GMT -5
As a WHS alum i knew Shelby would be a major challenge, even at the Haas . When you beat Findlay and dang near beat OG ,,, thats a strong team. Flashes are just a few too many boys over to be a D3 school division. Shelby snd Lex just have a much larger talent pool to draw from. I expect a Shelby vs Lex final . That ought to be a real battle. a willard fan complaining about the talent pool to draw from? that is hilrarious.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 24, 2024 12:23:17 GMT -5
not complaining, just saying not as big of a student body . Good to see you are still a simple soul.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 24, 2024 12:38:57 GMT -5
Shelby was deeper and bigger. Willard needed to play a near perfect game and Shelby just took advantage of our cold shooting and made a lot of easy shots on transition or offense rebounds. I expect to see Shelby vs Luth West at BG I haven't seen Lexington this year but somehow they beat this Shelby team in late December. Maybe Shelby has improved since then. I didn’t get to as many games this year as usual. I saw one early and was genuinely concerned. No ball movement. Everyone wanted to give the ball back to Bruskotter and let him either shoot or drive. It was bad. I’ve seen two games recently. They aren’t the same team. Great ball movement, everyone is scoring. They have improved a ton. Early on I was worried some great talent was being wasted. I’m not as worried now.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Feb 24, 2024 14:45:00 GMT -5
Galion this year should have never scheduled Lucas, Buckeye Central, and Mount Gilead. They have no business playing against those smaller schools. They don't want to play tougher teams outside of the conference and that thread will continue in the future. They're gonna drop Bellevue because they got embarrassed by their former coach and Lexington will drop Galion eventually to play a much tougher opponent. They might look good in the scorebook, but in reality we'll be playing terrible teams in the years to come That has been a frustration of the fans on here for quite a long time for numerous sports including football as well. We have been ridiculed mercilessly but yet it has been deserved due to the lack of willingness to schedule larger, tougher schools. The football program hasn’t scheduled a larger school (with the exception of 2020), since Madison took them to the shed in 2014. And the boy’s basketball program has struggled mightily since Colby Bright was shown the door several years ago ( a decision I strongly opposed). I am hopeful though with the new AD who is a Galion guy, that hopefully this will begin to change.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Feb 24, 2024 23:59:12 GMT -5
Big Lex and Shelby has always had a larger enrollment than Willard. Why is it an issue this Season?
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 25, 2024 7:36:05 GMT -5
Lex and Shelby always have been slightly bigger,,,its a fair amount now. To the point we are borderline D3 some years. No excuses though,,,Shelby and Lex are both very very good teams. Their rankings are legit .
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2024 8:13:47 GMT -5
As a WHS alum i knew Shelby would be a major challenge, even at the Haas . When you beat Findlay and dang near beat OG ,,, thats a strong team. Flashes are just a few too many boys over to be a D3 school division. Shelby snd Lex just have a much larger talent pool to draw from. I expect a Shelby vs Lex final . That ought to be a real battle. a willard fan complaining about the talent pool to draw from? that is hilrarious. I believe that 10 of Willard's regular season games this year were against smaller student body and out of their current division. Edison2x, Huron2x, Margaretta2x, Carey, Ridgemont, Open Door Christian, Lucas.
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2024 8:25:15 GMT -5
Big Lex and Shelby has always had a larger enrollment than Willard. Why is it an issue this Season? Things can become an issue when you are not happy with the results. I wonder how such a smaller talent pool produced the talent of two 1,000 point scorers on the same team?
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 25, 2024 9:06:38 GMT -5
dude is just an a hole plain and simple. Just in case anyone is wondering. I’ve noticed he spends a good portion of his day critiquing posts and trying to make posters look bad. Who does that? 9508 post he’s made. I bet 5000 are critiquing other posts.
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2024 9:21:23 GMT -5
dude is just an a hole plain and simple. Just in case anyone is wondering. I’ve noticed he spends a good portion of his day critiquing posts and trying to make posters look bad. Who does that? 9508 post he’s made. I bet 5000 are critiquing other posts. I doubt anyone wonders what you think outside of your house but you. I spend time posting on active topics and games I have watched. You just did. 9503 of them are me giving my opinion on a topic just like everyone else.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 25, 2024 9:36:19 GMT -5
Congratulations to Shelby on your win, You have a very good team.
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2024 9:41:10 GMT -5
I haven't seen Lexington this year but somehow they beat this Shelby team in late December. Maybe Shelby has improved since then. I didn’t get to as many games this year as usual. I saw one early and was genuinely concerned. No ball movement. Everyone wanted to give the ball back to Bruskotter and let him either shoot or drive. It was bad. I’ve seen two games recently. They aren’t the same team. Great ball movement, everyone is scoring. They have improved a ton. Early on I was worried some great talent was being wasted. I’m not as worried now. They are definitely using all the weapons they have when they can.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Feb 25, 2024 11:19:43 GMT -5
Lex and Shelby always have been slightly bigger,,,its a fair amount now. To the point we are borderline D3 some years. No excuses though,,,Shelby and Lex are both very very good teams. Their rankings are legit . what is a fair amount? Because Shelby only has 48 more boys than Willard. Lex, excuse me, BIG LEX has 104 more. Point to be made, Shelby and BIG LEX were AAA and/or Division I back in the day. I'm guessing the enrollment difference was more profound during Willard's heyday than now. Seems to me those two are heads and shoulders above Bellevue, Mansfield Senior, and Willard and it's concerning certain fans
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 25, 2024 12:15:16 GMT -5
They’re better right now thats for sure. But you know whst,,,, not losing sleep over it.
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Post by 419bossman on Feb 25, 2024 14:38:47 GMT -5
Final Standings
Shelby 14-0 River Valley 11-3 Harding 11-3 Pleasant 6-8 Galion 6-8 Clear Fork 5-9 Ontario 3-11 Highland 0-14
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Post by 419bossman on Feb 25, 2024 14:44:25 GMT -5
Games for the Week of 2/26-3/2, Sectional Week
Tuesday February 27th Clear Fork at Galion Ontario at Mansfield Sr. Pleasant at Heath Highland at Bishop Ready Olentangy at Harding
Friday March 1st Vermilion at Shelby Galion at Lexington Ashville Teays Valley at Harding
Saturday March 2nd Columbus Beechcroft at River Valley
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Feb 25, 2024 14:45:07 GMT -5
Final Standings Shelby 14-0 River Valley 11-3 Harding 11-3 Pleasant 6-8 Galion 6-8 Clear Fork 5-9 Ontario 3-11 Highland 0-14 Shelby, the 5 time
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Post by moacpops on Feb 25, 2024 20:15:14 GMT -5
Congrats to Shelby on another MOAC title. SHS winning the championship by 3 games left no doubt who was the dominant team.
It is tournament time - good luck to our MOAC teams.
I think Shelby and R Valley make it to the district finals. They both could make it farther. I think all the other teams are one game and out except the winner of CF vs. Galion who will lose to Lex in round 2. Marion Harding should win a few games based on seeding but I predict them to get upset. I hope the MOAC teams play well and makes my picks look bad.
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2024 21:55:15 GMT -5
what is a fair amount? Because Shelby only has 48 more boys than Willard. Lex, excuse me, BIG LEX has 104 more. Point to be made, Shelby and BIG LEX were AAA and/or Division I back in the day. I'm guessing the enrollment difference was more profound during Willard's heyday than now. Seems to me those two are heads and shoulders above Bellevue, Mansfield Senior, and Willard and it's concerning certain fans The enrollment of Willard is 199, Shelby 247 and Lex 301. Some fans will always use the 48 or 102 difference as an excuse to lose or not play but will be okay with scheduling Lucas who is 78 and has a difference of 121.
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2024 21:57:07 GMT -5
Congrats to Shelby on another MOAC title. SHS winning the championship by 3 games left no doubt who was the dominant team. It is tournament time - good luck to our MOAC teams. I think Shelby and R Valley make it to the district finals. They both could make it farther. I think all the other teams are one game and out except the winner of CF vs. Galion who will lose to Lex in round 2. Marion Harding should win a few games based on seeding but I predict them to get upset. I hope the MOAC teams play well and makes my picks look bad. Could river valley make it to Athens?
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