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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 18, 2016 19:42:07 GMT -5
On to week 9 and the Tigers fresh off a 28-25 win against Fairbanks travel to Richwood to take on the 5-3 Wildcats. They were defeated last week 34-14 by Jonathan Alder. The Tigers have won both meetings since joining the MOAC. North Union defeated Galion in the 2012 region 14 quarterfinals. Thoughts on this one....
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Post by 4 on Oct 18, 2016 20:25:08 GMT -5
I'll say NU by 14. But galion will put up points.
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Post by galiontiger on Oct 18, 2016 21:09:15 GMT -5
I say Galion by 3 points. Some how..some way. I'm bad new about them...running team. We don't fare well against running teams. It could be ugly. I hope not. We are starting to play a little better. I hope our momentum carries us. GO TIGERS!!!
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Post by moacmama on Oct 18, 2016 21:29:56 GMT -5
I'm taking NU in this one! Injuries hit us hard and we were missing some guys when we faced RV & Harding. We seems to be healthy and made it through the JA game with no injuries. NU is a very balanced team, there is no "star" on the team. 5 or 6 guys can run the ball and coach will rotate them around, the passing game is getting better and we have one heckuva sophomore punter. Defense has been steadily improving (except the Fairbanks game. defense was not awake that night) Make sure you get some chicken n noodles on Friday,the weather is suppose to be chilly.
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Post by 4 on Oct 19, 2016 0:01:42 GMT -5
Im dreading this weather Friday myself haha but not to cold yet. Galion isn't good tackling wise so should be able to run well on them.
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Post by galiontiger on Oct 19, 2016 11:35:26 GMT -5
We should be ready for this game. I can't wait. Maybe our only chance at a win. I don't know if we can stay up with Pleasant.
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Post by galiontiger on Oct 19, 2016 12:44:34 GMT -5
Back to the North Union/Fairbanks game, I could have sworn that I read somewhere that the Fairbanks QB threw an interception in the "endzone" to lose that game. He threw an interception on a "heave-it-up" in desperation, but it only made it to about the 30-yard line where it was picked off. I just watched the full game to see how we will match up against NU. Who ever called for the Fairbanks QB to roll out at the end of the game like that...should be disciplined. LOL The whole game and even on that drive he just stands there and fires away. He was killing North Union in that game. Every 10 yard slant was wide open..in fact he had 3 long tds just like that. But to roll-out at the end of the game like that killed them. Why? Cause he slipped and fell trying to reverse his field about 10 yards back behind the line of scrimmage. It killed them. They were moving too.
We, Galion, are going to have a hard time stopping them. If we don't stop those pitch outs, its going to be a looooonnngggg game for us. Our ends and cornerbacks got to come up and stop those plays. Those plays killed Fairbanks. We are going to have to come up in the middle with our linebackers and make the tackles too. I'd say "beat us with the pass, but we aren't going to let you just run down the field on us." It's going to be a tough game for us. If our offense was as proficient as Fairbanks, I'd say we'd have a chance. I don't think we are there yet. I can just hope our young boys got a taste of victory last game, and it shows this week in how aggressive we can be. We got to get off these blocks quickly. North Union does not pass hardly at all..against Fairbanks it might have been like 5 times. I'm still going to pick us by 3 points. Go Tigers!!!
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Post by 4 on Oct 19, 2016 12:52:03 GMT -5
You guys have a field goal kicker that is good right? It could come down to that. And yes NU barely passes. He passed maybe 4 times against Harding I seen. And one was picked. Harding stuffed the run all night. They do some qb runs as well. I'm not counting galion out in this one they could win.
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Post by galiontiger on Oct 19, 2016 13:08:37 GMT -5
I know how run defense is. I knew we would have a chance last weekend, because we didn't have to defend against the run. Our run defense is so bad, last week we kicked off last week to the Fairbanks kick off return guy, he ran up the middle and went untouched for a 100 yard kickoff return. I thought "OMG! What a way to start off the game!" LOL
Yes, if we get from the 30 yard line or close, our kicker will come out. We tried like 50 yarder last week, but he didn't hit it good. He came up way short by like 10 yards. His record a few weeks ago (47 yarder) literally would have been good by about 55 yards. No lie! I saw the HUDL video the ball crossed the bar by about 3 feet just below the top of the goalpost. I ain't talking about the middle one either..talking about the posts. LOL
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Post by galiontiger on Oct 19, 2016 13:10:09 GMT -5
It's either going to be a blow-out win for them or a 3 point win for us. I don't see like a 10 or 14 point difference. That's just my opinion.
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Post by moacmama on Oct 21, 2016 5:22:53 GMT -5
According to another thread, there were two players from Galion suspended for tonight's game and AD was appealing it. Any word as of yet?
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Post by gt1975 on Oct 21, 2016 9:53:23 GMT -5
Ejections and the suspensions that come from them cannot be appealed. There's nothing the AD can do.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 21, 2016 15:29:11 GMT -5
^^^The AD's mistake was not hauling the referees into a closed door meeting at the stadium immediately after the game and "explaining" it to them. Worked several years ago for Galion when they had an ejection during a beat down on Crestline.
It was as though the ejection never happened.
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Post by moacmama on Oct 21, 2016 16:16:09 GMT -5
Ejections and the suspensions that come from them cannot be appealed. There's nothing the AD can do. Thank you for the response, that's what I thought. |
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Post by moacfootballfan on Oct 21, 2016 19:06:15 GMT -5
20-3 NU halftime.
#42 hit the upright with length to spare on a 54yd fg attempt.
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Post by moacmama on Oct 21, 2016 21:30:06 GMT -5
NU wins 41-3. That field goal attempt was amazing, the kid almost had it!
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Post by galiontiger on Oct 22, 2016 2:05:34 GMT -5
Our kicker was the only bright spot on our team. He's got such an amazing leg for such a little guy. He's amazing. How about that onside kick he did too? Picture perfect..bounced right over their line's head and right into the arms of our little guy running down the sidelines. I swore it was going out of bounds too. (was like in the 1st or 2nd quarter too, I think right?)
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Post by galion on Oct 22, 2016 4:14:39 GMT -5
I also thought that our qb had one of his best nights throwing the ball that I've seen(at least since last season). Would somebody please explain to me the purpose of the Galion youth football program if the the kids can't BLOCK, TACKLE, or CATCH when they get to high school?
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Post by moacfootballfan on Oct 22, 2016 8:03:32 GMT -5
I also thought that our qb had one of his best nights throwing the ball that I've seen(at least since last season). Would somebody please explain to me the purpose of the Galion youth football program if the the kids can't BLOCK, TACKLE, or CATCH when they get to high school? To make money from parents who want to live vicariously through their kids. Just kidding. But seriously our "track stars" need to learn to catch the ball when we are on offense, not just on defense. Also can i just say, why is almost every pass we throw to a receiver who is behind the line of scrimmage? It makes passing yardage look better for the quarterback to have the receiver run so far after the catch but in reality a few of our big gains were throws for-1 yd and runs after the caych of 15-20 yds. |
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Post by galion on Oct 22, 2016 8:26:38 GMT -5
We threw the ball down the field as well. They just didn't catch it. Keep in mind that those throws near or behind the line of scrimmage are basically our running game. That's just what spread offenses do, particularly when your qb is not a running threat.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Oct 22, 2016 9:35:10 GMT -5
We threw the ball down the field as well. They just didn't catch it. Keep in mind that those throws near or behind the line of scrimmage are basically our running game. That's just what spread offenses do, particularly when your qb is not a running threat. If thats our running game then why do we do it on 3rd and long? Frankly, im not really that impressed with our whole offensive scheme this year. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 22, 2016 16:23:47 GMT -5
I also thought that our qb had one of his best nights throwing the ball that I've seen(at least since last season). Would somebody please explain to me the purpose of the Galion youth football program if the the kids can't BLOCK, TACKLE, or CATCH when they get to high school? A couple of years of youth football with a few parents is not comparable to 6 years of JH and HS football coaching with real coaching staffs. How many days/week do youth football teams practice? How weeks per year does youth football last? Compared to JH and HS football? Youth football should be fun for all kids involved and learn a few VERY basic fundamentals. 5th graders minds and bodies aren't ready to respond to intense instruction or tasks. |
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Post by galion on Oct 22, 2016 17:15:21 GMT -5
5th graders? They start before that now. When this program was started the proponents claimed that it would increase our numbers and improve their fundamentals. Clearly, it's had the exact opposite effect. It's pretty stupid to me to put the health of kids that young with developing bodies and minds at risk just to have "fun" with no clear benefit other than that. Us old timers never played a down of tackle football until 7th grade. I can tell you without question that we were fundamentally more sound than the kids we have in high school today.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Oct 22, 2016 17:38:00 GMT -5
What, now were blaming the poor play of our team on a youth football program (starts for 1st & 2nd grade as flag) that is independent from the school? I can't imagine it being subsidized by the district since it isn't that cheap. Seriously? If our players dont tackle well, surely one if not all of our staff should actually specialize in being able to teach the fundamentals.
That just seems like scapegoating to blame them for what our staff cant or wont do.
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Post by galion on Oct 22, 2016 17:39:47 GMT -5
We threw the ball down the field as well. They just didn't catch it. Keep in mind that those throws near or behind the line of scrimmage are basically our running game. That's just what spread offenses do, particularly when your qb is not a running threat. If thats our running game then why do we do it on 3rd and long? Frankly, im not really that impressed with our whole offensive scheme this year. I hate to break the news to you but with the exception of our heavy package for short yardage this is virtually the same offense that we were running under Hawkins last season. The only real difference is the players on the field running it. We ran those same short yardage passes on 2nd and 3rd and long last season but we had play makers who could break free and go. Heck, there were times last season that we actually RAN the ball on 3rd and long. There is a reason that Barnett is going to college for free. Let's be honest here we can't run the ball to save our lives. What else would you have them do? How many long passes did you watch them drop or misplay last night? At least the short passes they were catching. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 22, 2016 17:40:19 GMT -5
I realize they start earlier than 5th grade, the younger the less they can absorb.
My first head coach didn't believe in 7th grade fielding a team. He did put a couple of 7th grade "studs" on the 8th grade team.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Oct 22, 2016 17:46:27 GMT -5
If thats our running game then why do we do it on 3rd and long? Frankly, im not really that impressed with our whole offensive scheme this year. I hate to break the news to you but with the exception of our heavy package for short yardage this is virtually the same offense that we were running under Hawkins last season. The only real difference is the players on the field running it. We ran those same short yardage passes on 2nd and 3rd and long last season but we had play makers who could break free and go. Heck, there were times last season that we actually RAN the ball on 3rd and long. There is a reason that Barnett is going to college for free. Let's be honest here we can't run the ball to save our lives. What else would you have them do? How many long passes did you watch them drop or misplay last night? At least the short passes they were catching. I dont disagree with you on any points. Talented players make poor schemes or mediocre coaches look a lot better than they are. I'm not defending our players at all. In reality we kinda suck this year and even the players that are self proclaimed stars really aren't that great either. |
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Post by galion on Oct 22, 2016 17:54:31 GMT -5
What, now were blaming the poor play of our team on a youth football program that is independent from the school? I csnt imagine it being subsidized by the district since it isnt cheap. Seriously? If our players dont tackle well, surely one if not all of our staff should actually specialize in being able to teach the fundamentals. That just seems like scapegoating to blame them for what our staff cant or wont do. OK, first off I'm not blaming the youth program completely. However, if they are waiting to learn the fundamentals until they are walking the halls of the high school then they have no prayer. When you have to take up valuable practice time in high school to work on this instead of installing your schemes and gameplans for the next opponent then it's too late you are screwed. Especially now, because there are strict limits imposed on the amount of full contact you can do in practice. It's not like you are allowed to line up and do full padded blocking and tackling drills everyday like you used to be able to. Look at Alder. Better yet look at Edison last year. Fundamentally those teams are machines. The one major thing that Hawkins never did here was install any kind of a consistent feeder program for the high school. This takes a lot of time and patience and you can tell the schools that do it and those who don't. Truthfully, Hawkins was probably looking for his next job as soon as he got here. He was never going to be here for the long haul so why bother? Now maybe his tune will change in Ontario but I wouldn't hold my breath. |
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Post by GoldenStateBlewA3-1Lead on Oct 22, 2016 18:41:58 GMT -5
I'll admit the coaching has been suspect at time this year and in years past but it's not all on how the "feeder program" is set up. The main issue with this team and the next couple of teams is an attitude issue. The coaches can go over how to tackle and how to block all they want but it doesn't matter if the players don't listen. I'm honestly not surprised by how this season went because of that reason. Our biggest problem is attitude. Now I know that not everyone on the team is like this, but a good majority of this years team just felt like they could just show up and win because of the last couple years. Coaches can only do so much and to quote Coach Hawkins "the coaches aren't out on the field playing, at a certain point its up to the players to execute."
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Post by moacfootballfan on Oct 22, 2016 19:28:37 GMT -5
Ok, so if we can summ up the past few posts, everything about our program is broken. Glad were all on the same page  Also, about Hawkins, yeah probably right but I can't help but think that he knew he would be at the peak of his resume after last season and didnt want to coach this year at Galion and have a 2-8 season as his most recent coaching history. |
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