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Post by Vogel on Nov 28, 2023 15:31:17 GMT -5
Ohio State is still officially alive for a playoff spot. Didn't take care of business Saturday so once again needs help. OSU needs Georgia to beat Bama Michigan to beat Iowa Louisville to beat Florida State Oklahoma State to beat Texas If those 4 things happen, Ohio State gets in through the back door for a 2nd straight year. Next year the 12 team playoff starts. - Top 5 Conference Champs get in - Iowa and Louisville would still be alive - Top 7 ranked teams after that get in - Bye goes to the Top 4 Conference Champs - (So OSU could be #4 but since it wouldn't be Conf Champ it would NOT get a bye) - Tulane, Troy, SMU and Liberty would all be battling it out for the 5th Conference Champ auto bid
| Vogel | Sagarin | Massey | Avg of 79 Computers | | 1 | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | | 2 | (12-0) Georgia | (11-1) Ohio State | (12-0) Georgia | (12-0) Georgia | | 3 | (11-1) Ohio State | (12-0) Georgia | (11-1) Ohio St | (11-1) Ohio State | | 4 | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | (11-1) Alabama | (12-0) Washington | | 5 | (12-0) Washington | (11-1) Alabama | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | | 6 | (11-1) Alabama | (10-2) Penn State | (12-0) Washington | (11-1) Texas | | 7 | (10-2) Penn State | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | (12-0) Florida St | | 8 | (12-0) Florida St | (10-2) Oklahoma | (12-0) Florida St | (11-1) Alabama | | 9 | (10-2) Oklahoma | (9-3) LSU | (10-2) Penn State | (10-2) Penn St | | 10 | (11-1) Oregon | (9-3) Notre Dame | (10-2) Oklahoma | (10-2) Oklahoma | | 11 | (10-2) Ole Miss | (8-4) Kanas State | (9-3) LSU | (9-3) LSU | | 12 | (10-2) Missouri | (12-0) Florida St | (10-2) Ole Miss | (10-2) Missouri | | 13 | (10-2) Iowa | (12-0) Washington | (9-3) Notre Dame | (10-2) Ole Miss | | 14 | (9-3) LSU | (7-5) Texas A&M | (10-2) Missouri | (9-3) Notre Dame | | 15 | (9-3) Notre Dame | (8-4) Oregon St | (8-4) Kansas St | (8-4) Kansas St | | 16 | (10-2) Louisville | (10-2) Ole Miss | (8-4) Utah | (10-2) Louisville |
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Post by cbus on Nov 28, 2023 17:11:57 GMT -5
So, are you saying Ohio State will be ranked higher than the winner of Washington v Oregon or do you have the PAC 12 champ in the 3rd slot (assuming the 4 things happen)?
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Post by Vogel on Nov 28, 2023 17:54:54 GMT -5
I have the Oregon/Wash winner in if Texas or FSU loses
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Nov 28, 2023 18:06:38 GMT -5
I've seen a handful of pundits who think Oregon is the best right now
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Post by clb6110 on Nov 28, 2023 19:41:53 GMT -5
Ken Carmen,who is nothing more than a talking head at 92.3 The Fan Cleveland and Fox 8,says his sources tell him if the LA Chargers fire Cleveland native Brandon Staley they are going to make a strong play for Day. They want him to coach Herbert.I don't know as I don't follow it as close as some just typing what he mentioned today.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 28, 2023 21:42:33 GMT -5
Ohio State is still officially alive for a playoff spot. Didn't take care of business Saturday so once again needs help. OSU needs Georgia to beat Bama Michigan to beat Iowa Louisville to beat Florida State Oklahoma State to beat Texas If those 4 things happen, Ohio State gets in through the back door for a 2nd straight year. Next year the 12 team playoff starts. - Top 5 Conference Champs get in - Iowa and Louisville would still be alive - Top 7 ranked teams after that get in - Bye goes to the Top 4 Conference Champs - (So OSU could be #4 but since it wouldn't be Conf Champ it would NOT get a bye) - Tulane, Troy, SMU and Liberty would all be battling it out for the 5th Conference Champ auto bid
| Vogel | Sagarin | Massey | Avg of 79 Computers | | 1 | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | | 2 | (12-0) Georgia | (11-1) Ohio State | (12-0) Georgia | (12-0) Georgia | | 3 | (11-1) Ohio State | (12-0) Georgia | (11-1) Ohio St | (11-1) Ohio State | | 4 | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | (11-1) Alabama | (12-0) Washington | | 5 | (12-0) Washington | (11-1) Alabama | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | | 6 | (11-1) Alabama | (10-2) Penn State | (12-0) Washington | (11-1) Texas | | 7 | (10-2) Penn State | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | (12-0) Florida St | | 8 | (12-0) Florida St | (10-2) Oklahoma | (12-0) Florida St | (11-1) Alabama | | 9 | (10-2) Oklahoma | (9-3) LSU | (10-2) Penn State | (10-2) Penn St | | 10 | (11-1) Oregon | (9-3) Notre Dame | (10-2) Oklahoma | (10-2) Oklahoma | | 11 | (10-2) Ole Miss | (8-4) Kanas State | (9-3) LSU | (9-3) LSU | | 12 | (10-2) Missouri | (12-0) Florida St | (10-2) Ole Miss | (10-2) Missouri | | 13 | (10-2) Iowa | (12-0) Washington | (9-3) Notre Dame | (10-2) Ole Miss | | 14 | (9-3) LSU | (7-5) Texas A&M | (10-2) Missouri | (9-3) Notre Dame | | 15 | (9-3) Notre Dame | (8-4) Oregon St | (8-4) Kansas St | (8-4) Kansas St | | 16 | (10-2) Louisville | (10-2) Ole Miss | (8-4) Utah | (10-2) Louisville |
OSU would prefer to have Washington win Friday night as opposed to Oregon. A one loss Washington still might get in ahead of Ohio State. They’d have three top twenty five wins as opposed to OSU’s two. They also have a better top win than Ohio State. The committee also has a history of over looking close title game losses. |
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 28, 2023 21:45:24 GMT -5
I’d imagine Michigan will get whomever wins the pac 12 title game in the rose bowl. There’s talk that the committee wants to make sure the last Rose bowl of the PAC 12 era is a traditional B1G vs. PAC 12 match up.
All of this assuming that Michigan can conjure up the nine points needed to beat Iowa on Saturday.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Nov 28, 2023 21:49:53 GMT -5
Ohio State is still officially alive for a playoff spot. Didn't take care of business Saturday so once again needs help. OSU needs Georgia to beat Bama Michigan to beat Iowa Louisville to beat Florida State Oklahoma State to beat Texas If those 4 things happen, Ohio State gets in through the back door for a 2nd straight year. Next year the 12 team playoff starts. - Top 5 Conference Champs get in - Iowa and Louisville would still be alive - Top 7 ranked teams after that get in - Bye goes to the Top 4 Conference Champs - (So OSU could be #4 but since it wouldn't be Conf Champ it would NOT get a bye) - Tulane, Troy, SMU and Liberty would all be battling it out for the 5th Conference Champ auto bid
| Vogel | Sagarin | Massey | Avg of 79 Computers | | 1 | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | (12-0) Michigan | | 2 | (12-0) Georgia | (11-1) Ohio State | (12-0) Georgia | (12-0) Georgia | | 3 | (11-1) Ohio State | (12-0) Georgia | (11-1) Ohio St | (11-1) Ohio State | | 4 | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | (11-1) Alabama | (12-0) Washington | | 5 | (12-0) Washington | (11-1) Alabama | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | | 6 | (11-1) Alabama | (10-2) Penn State | (12-0) Washington | (11-1) Texas | | 7 | (10-2) Penn State | (11-1) Texas | (11-1) Oregon | (12-0) Florida St | | 8 | (12-0) Florida St | (10-2) Oklahoma | (12-0) Florida St | (11-1) Alabama | | 9 | (10-2) Oklahoma | (9-3) LSU | (10-2) Penn State | (10-2) Penn St | | 10 | (11-1) Oregon | (9-3) Notre Dame | (10-2) Oklahoma | (10-2) Oklahoma | | 11 | (10-2) Ole Miss | (8-4) Kanas State | (9-3) LSU | (9-3) LSU | | 12 | (10-2) Missouri | (12-0) Florida St | (10-2) Ole Miss | (10-2) Missouri | | 13 | (10-2) Iowa | (12-0) Washington | (9-3) Notre Dame | (10-2) Ole Miss | | 14 | (9-3) LSU | (7-5) Texas A&M | (10-2) Missouri | (9-3) Notre Dame | | 15 | (9-3) Notre Dame | (8-4) Oregon St | (8-4) Kansas St | (8-4) Kansas St | | 16 | (10-2) Louisville | (10-2) Ole Miss | (8-4) Utah | (10-2) Louisville |
OSU would prefer to have Washington win Friday night as opposed to Oregon. A one loss Washington still might get in ahead of Ohio State. They’d have three top twenty five wins as opposed to OSU’s two. They also have a better top win than Ohio State. The committee also has a history of over looking close title game losses. The PAC 12 is weak and Washington has struggled with bad teams such as Arizona State and barely getting by 6-6 WSU at home. |
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 28, 2023 22:32:17 GMT -5
OSU would prefer to have Washington win Friday night as opposed to Oregon. A one loss Washington still might get in ahead of Ohio State. They’d have three top twenty five wins as opposed to OSU’s two. They also have a better top win than Ohio State. The committee also has a history of over looking close title game losses. The PAC 12 is weak and Washington has struggled with bad teams such as Arizona State and barely getting by 6-6 WSU at home. The B1G outside of OSU, Michigan and PSU isn’t any better than the PAC 12 . The B1G west is little better than the MAC. Top 25 wins Washington- 3 OSU- 2 They’ll have a better win than OSU with the regular season win over Oregon. Washington would be tough to send packing over OSU |
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Post by cbus on Nov 30, 2023 6:57:26 GMT -5
The problem is Oregon is a 9.5 point favorite over Washington and Texas is a 14.5 point favorite over OK State. So Ohio State will have to win the Committee vote over one loss Florida State, Texas and Washington assuming the heavy favorites win. That's not likely but I guess anything is possible. What would the line be if it's Georgia v Ohio State compared to Georgia versus Washington, Texas or Florida State? Ohio State might come out ahead in that comparison.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 30, 2023 16:34:49 GMT -5
i’m riding with
Ga beats Bama
Louisville beats FSU and Ok state hangs with Texas and we’re in
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Post by Birdman on Nov 30, 2023 17:15:04 GMT -5
i’m riding with Ga beats Bama Louisville beats FSU and Ok state hangs with Texas and we’re in Anything can happen. Bench Kyle let the freshman spin it |
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Nov 30, 2023 20:34:43 GMT -5
i’m riding with Ga beats Bama Louisville beats FSU and Ok state hangs with Texas and we’re in I remember when Playoffs started, being Conference Champ was the narrative. I believe most fans, especially if one isn't pro-Osu, doesn't believe anything the committee says. Just go ahead, put in the Buckeyes |
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Post by Birdman on Nov 30, 2023 22:36:07 GMT -5
Realistically the Buckeyes could squeeze in with just FSU losing. I’m not sure though I want to see the Buckeyes in the playoffs again. Kyle McCord isn’t the answer just yet. The kid at times shows he can make a darn good throw, then has moments were you scratch your head like a chimp in a zoo exhibit. Buckeyes have a defense and they got great players on offense, but that most important position is an enigma wrapped in a black hole being electrocuted by an eel.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Dec 1, 2023 23:48:55 GMT -5
Buckeyes get break #1 tonight as Washington held off Duck City
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Post by Birdman on Dec 2, 2023 0:26:51 GMT -5
Buckeyes get break #1 tonight as Washington held off Duck City 2 more to go! Then we can see Kyle McCord get steam rolled by the greatest football team to ever live |
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Dec 2, 2023 2:10:20 GMT -5
Buckeyes get break #1 tonight as Washington held off Duck City Oregon always chokes in big time games. |
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Dec 2, 2023 2:46:13 GMT -5
Buckeyes get break #1 tonight as Washington held off Duck City 2 more to go! Then we can see Kyle McCord get steam rolled by the greatest football team to ever live I honestly think just 1 to go with an FSU loss. Texas has no bearing |
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Post by Birdman on Dec 2, 2023 10:36:16 GMT -5
2 more to go! Then we can see Kyle McCord get steam rolled by the greatest football team to ever live I honestly think just 1 to go with an FSU loss. Texas has no bearing that’s going to be an interesting discussion does 8 leap all the way to 4 for beating OK St?? Conference champ or not I’m interested in seeing how the committee looks at Texas. IMO the win against Alabama was against a different Alabama team we are currently looking at, but does the committee feel the same way. |
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Post by redskinfan04 on Dec 2, 2023 11:11:21 GMT -5
2 more to go! Then we can see Kyle McCord get steam rolled by the greatest football team to ever live I honestly think just 1 to go with an FSU loss. Texas has no bearing A one loss big twelve champ with a win over Bama jumps OSU every time. If they throttle Ok State today they might jump FSU regardless. |
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Post by baldref on Dec 2, 2023 13:13:55 GMT -5
Be thankful osu is not in playoffs. Not sure we could beat Texas, Oklahoma State or any of others with McCord and Day tandem. Shameful waste of talent by osu and Day. Hopefully get a chump team in a bowl game or we'll get embarrassed after most skill players sit that one out.
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 2, 2023 17:22:46 GMT -5
Be thankful osu is not in playoffs. Not sure we could beat Texas, Oklahoma State or any of others with McCord and Day tandem. Shameful waste of talent by osu and Day. Hopefully get a chump team in a bowl game or we'll get embarrassed after most skill players sit that one out. We all said the same thing last year vs Georgia. And your predictions haven’t been stellar lately, claiming the OSU/Michigan game wouldn’t be close. I’d love to see Ohio State in the playoffs, all you need is one good game. |
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Post by cbus on Dec 2, 2023 17:52:50 GMT -5
If Bama beats Georgia and FLA St beats L'Ville does the SEC get shut out of the playoffs or does the committee put 2 SEC teams in with MI and TX or WA or FLA St or OH St? Those won't be easy decisions for the Committee. I'm guessing the 12 team playoff can't get here soon enough for some Committee members.
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 2, 2023 19:42:41 GMT -5
If FSU loses this whole thing gets really murky.
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Post by Birdman on Dec 2, 2023 20:01:19 GMT -5
Man….. wish I could have said “I didn’t see Alabama winning” but I did. Georgia has hid behind a weak schedule all year. Great team, but Saban had his team on a different level to secure that game. Barring some kind of death spin I see the top four as followed.
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama
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Post by Vogel on Dec 3, 2023 8:25:56 GMT -5
Computer Rankings December 3, 2023
Teams in Red are Conference Champs
| Vogel | Massey | ESPN FPI | ESPN SOR | | 1 | (13-0) Michigan | (13-0) Michigan | (13-0) Michigan | (13-0) Washington | | 2 | (12-1) Texas | (12-1) Alabama | (11-1) Ohio State | (13-0) Michigan | | 3 | (11-1) Ohio State | (11-1) Ohio State | (10-2) Penn State | (13-0) Florida St | | 4 | (12-1) Georgia | (12-1) Texas | (11-2) Oregon | (12-1) Alabama | | 5 | (13-0) Washington | (13-0) Washington | (12-1) Alabama | (12-1) Texas | | 6 | (13-0) Florida St | (12-1) Georgia | (12-1) Georgia | (11-1) Ohio State | | 7 | (12-1) Alabama | (13-0) Florida St | (12-1) Texas | (12-1) Georgia | | 8 | (10-2) Penn State | (10-2) Penn State | (10-2) Oklahoma | (10-2) Ole Miss | | 9 | (10-2) Oklahoma | (11-2) Oregon | (9-3) LSU | (10-2) Missouri | | 10 | (11-2) Oregon | (10-2) Oklahoma | (9-3) Notre Dame | (11-2) Oregon | | 11 | (10-2) Ole Miss | (9-3) LSU | (13-0) Florida St | (10-2) Penn State | | 12 | (10-2) Missouri | (10-2) Ole Miss | (8-4) Kansas St | (10-2) Oklahoma | | 13 | (9-3) LSU | (9-3) Notre Dame | (13-0) Washington | (9-3) LSU | | 14 | (10-3) Iowa | (10-2) Missouri | (7-5) Texas A&M | (13-0) Liberty | | 15 | (9-3) Notre Dame | (8-4) Kansas St | (10-2) Ole Miss | (10-3) Iowa | | 16 | (10-3) Louisville | (8-4) Utah | (10-2) Missouri | (10-3) Louisville | | 17 | (8-4) Oregon St | (8-4) Tennessee | (8-4) Tennessee | (9-3) Notre Dame | | 18 | (9-3) NC State | (8-4) Oregon St | (8-4) Oregon St | (11-1) James Madison | | 19 | (8-4) Kansas St | (10-3) Iowa | (8-4) Clemson | (11-2) SMU | | 20 | (9-3) Arizona | (8-4) Clemson | (11-2) SMU | (9-4) Oklahoma St | | 21 | (13-0) Liberty | (10-3) Louisville | (7-5) USC | (9-3) NC State | | 22 | (11-1) James Madison | (9-3) Arizona | (9-3) Arizona | (8-4) Utah | | 23 | (7-5) Iowa State | (7-5) Iowa St | (10-3) Louisville | (8-4) Tennessee | | 24 | (7-5) Duke | (7-5) Texas A&M | (7-5) Miami, FL | (9-3) Arizona | | 25 | (8-4) Kansas | (9-4) Oklahoma St | (8-4) Utah | (11-2) Tulane | | 26 | (8-4) Utah | (12-0) South Dakota St | (8-4) UNC | (8-4) Kansas St | | 27 | (11-2) Tulane | (11-2) SMU | (6-6) UCF | (8-4) Clemson | | 28 | (8-4) Clemson | (8-4) West Virginia | (5-7) TCU | (8-4) Kansas | | 29 | (11-2) Troy | (8-4) Kansas | (8-4) Kansas | (8-4) West Virginia | | 30 | (8-4) Tennessee | (7-5) USC | (6-6) Auburn | (11-2) Troy | | 31 | (11-2) Toledo | (9-3) NC State | (7-5) Iowa St | (8-4) Oregon St | | 32 | (7-5) Miami, FL | (11-1) James Madison | (7-5) Duke | (11-2) Miami, OH | | 33 | (7-5) Texas A&M | (7-5) Kentucky | (7-5) Maryland | (7-5) Texas A&M | | 34 | (11-2) SMU | (6-6) Auburn | (7-5) Kentucky | (7-5) Iowa State | | 35 | (8-4) UNC | (13-0) Liberty | (7-5) UCLA | (7-5) Kentucky | | 36 | (7-5) Maryland | (8-4) UNC | (9-3) NC State | (7-5) USC | | 37 | (11-2) Miami, OH | (5-7) TCU | (11-1) James Madison | (8-4) UNC | | 38 | (8-5) Boise State | (6-6) Texas Tech | (5-7) Florida | (11-2) Toledo | | 39 | (8-4) West Virginia | (7-5) UCLA | (6-6) Texas Tech | (7-5) Duke | | 40 | (9-4) Oklahoma St | (11-2) Troy | (9-4) Oklahoma St | (7-5) Maryland |
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Post by Vogel on Dec 3, 2023 8:30:32 GMT -5
I honestly think just 1 to go with an FSU loss. Texas has no bearing A one loss big twelve champ with a win over Bama jumps OSU every time. If they throttle Ok State today they might jump FSU regardless. (6-6) South Alabama throttled Okie St (33-7) (6-6) UCF throttled Okie St (45-3) Texas throttling Okie St shouldn't be worth much Texas should be the 4 seed |
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Dec 3, 2023 9:23:46 GMT -5
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 Texas
4 FSU
How I think it goes
No SEC
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 3, 2023 9:32:01 GMT -5
1 Michigan 2 Washington 3 Texas 4 FSU How I think it goes No SEC That's what I'd like to see |
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Post by Vogel on Dec 3, 2023 9:39:20 GMT -5
ESPN saying Bama is hot right now.
Yeah, Bama is hot
Took a 4th and 31 to beat (6-6) Auburn.
That's hot, lol
The 4 are obvious
13-0 Michigan
13-0 Washington
13-0 Florida State
12-1 Texas
Texas beat Bama and undefeated P5 teams should always be in
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