Off-Season moves.

[brownies1]

Thought? Saw a report Indians are in talks with Edwin. That be Big.
www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2016/12/on_cleveland_indians_interest.html#incart_m-rpt-2

Nationals and Harper parting ways?

[DrTorch]

hearing solid rumors that Chris Sale will be going to the Nationals in a package for Victor Robles

lord, please send him to the NL!

[BellevueBuckeye]

Chris Sale is changing Sox

[tigeralum01]

Last I checked, Boston isnt in the NL. Sorry Torch

[brownies1]

Anyone else heading back to the white Sox? I saw Yoan and I believe Michael Kopech is the hard throwing pitcher but no word on the other 2 prospects.

[DrTorch]

son of a b the AL East? Yarblockos

Moncada and Kopech is one helluva haul tho.

[Willard Fillmore]

Think the Pirate's Andrew McCutcheon, he's on the trading block and since a deal for Sales fell through just maybe. Napoli will be 37 and wants a 2 year deal for $14M per. Encarnaceon is 33 and wants a multi year for more than $20M per. McCutcheon is 31, should hit .300 with 25 HR. AND is under contract for 2 more years at $14M per and can play every day in the field. The Indians have a 2 year window to win it, primarily due to Miller's contract, but also Brantley, Cody Allen and Tomlin are up in 2 years. Santana and Shaw after next year. 

The Pirates will want the Indians best Minor League pitcher and outfielder, should the Indians do it?

[DrTorch]

we don't need OF, and McCutcheon was awful last year, i wouldn't give them anything for him...we get Brantley back (in theory) and Zimmer will be up by June

i'd love to see us sign Encarnarcion, who has produced in the post season, over Napoli...but i don't know how many years Edwin wants, i don't think i'd go 5 years for him, i'd rather go 2 on Napoli...if we can just get to the post season with our rotation healthy that in and of itself is like signing a couple FAs, we could use a big-time bat but i wouldn't mortgage the future for it

if Detroit deals Kinsler and Cabrera we will be looking at a very diluted AL Central


sidenote: the White Sox are going to have a great tandem with Moncada at 2B and Tim Anderson at SS for the next 12 years

[brownies1]

Idk that the price will be the high.

[CEOSouth]

Chris Sale implosion, injury or performance, by mid August.


Don't do it Papi.

[DrTorch]

he was not good in the 2nd half last year, we'll see if a pennant race sharpens the iron

man would have been sweet to see him in the NL East, shew

[DrTorch]

i think i like Ian Desmond to Colorado a lot

[DrTorch]

COL lineup(?) next season:

1. Charlie Blackmon CF
2. DJ LeMehieu 2B
3. Nolan Arenado 3B
4. Carlos Gonzalez RF
5. Ian Desmond 1B
6. David Dahl LF
7. Trevor Story SS
8. Catcher Platoon
9. Pitcher

Yikes.

[Willard Fillmore]

Dec 6, 2016 20:36:26 GMT -5 DrTorch said:

we don't need OF, and McCutcheon was awful last year, i wouldn't give them anything for him...we get Brantley back (in theory) and Zimmer will be up by June

i'd love to see us sign Encarnarcion, who has produced in the post season, over Napoli...but i don't know how many years Edwin wants, i don't think i'd go 5 years for him, i'd rather go 2 on Napoli...if we can just get to the post season with our rotation healthy that in and of itself is like signing a couple FAs, we could use a big-time bat but i wouldn't mortgage the future for it

if Detroit deals Kinsler and Cabrera we will be looking at a very diluted AL Central


sidenote: the White Sox are going to have a great tandem with Moncada at 2B and Tim Anderson at SS for the next 12 years

It's gonna be crowded at 1st base, with Brantley playing there in the future. His arm might not even be good enough to make relay throws from short right field.  

[DrTorch]

Santana only has 1-year left on his deal.

[DrTorch]

Giolito to the White Sox in an Adam Eaton package.

[brownies1]

^ That trade sound to me like over payment! 2 top tier young pitchers for Eaton? Am I the only one scratching my head at this?

[DrTorch]

You and Bryce Harper ha. Nationals in win now mode I guess. Unless they and the industry have soured on Giolito, who in all honesty did not impress me much from what I saw of him in the big leagues.



The really baffling thing about the Eaton trade to me is that they apparently want him to play CF, since Harper is already there in RF. Baseball metrics put Eaton as a below replacement player in CF, but he has had seasons of +5.4 WAR and +6.2 WAR in RF the last two years.
 Harper's was 1.6 last year altho it was pretty obvious he was playing injured.


I assume Trea Turner moves to full-time SS, which I like.



Maybe the Nationals are gearing up to trade Harper :+) The Yankees have a crazy farm system atm.

[DrTorch]

hearing the Indians have offered Edwin a 3-year deal

[4]

Chapman and Yankees basically played the Cubs lol, can't stand the Yankees but they're gearing for a very good team. They have made space. If they don't get Harper this year maybe next. They're expected to go after multiple big names next year FA. It's gonna be big. They're being really smart.

[DrTorch]

The Yankees need SP. They have good organizational depth at the skill positions. Taking a page out of Theo Epstein's book perhaps.

[DrTorch]

If Jose Quintana is truly available the Indians would be wise to look into acquiring him.  They may not have the talent after the Andrew Miller trade, but it would be worth doing their due dilligence on.

[Willard Fillmore]

Dec 7, 2016 18:14:21 GMT -5 DrTorch said:

Santana only has 1-year left on his deal.

That's right. More than anything the Tribe needs a REAL first baseman under 30 who can hit for power. 

[DrTorch]

Dec 10, 2016 23:14:54 GMT -5 Willard Fillmore said:

Dec 7, 2016 18:14:21 GMT -5 DrTorch said:

Santana only has 1-year left on his deal.

That's right. More than anything the Tribe needs a REAL first baseman under 30 who can hit for power. 

been a problem for a long time

i'd kick the tires on Justin Turner, 3B, too...then we could move Jose Ramirez to RF and Chis to the bench as a super-utility and a PH...it would help make up for the relative abyss at 1st, especially if Napoli goes

i like Bobby Bradley a LOT, but at best he gets a taste in 2018, and he has some work to do...he has a better chance to be a MLB average hitter with considerable power than Joey Gallo does...

Bradley Zimmer had a really good season in the Arizona Fall League this year, we need to get him up this year and get him some experience.

[Willard Fillmore]

I'd hate too move Hosee to the outfield. IMO he has the makings of an All-Star 3rd baseman. Look what he did there in half a season, playing the position everyday for the first time, at age 23.

[DrTorch]

i won't disagree with any of that, but something needs to be done about RF...3B was as bad as 1B until Ramirez came along, so overall i'm fine with him as our everyday 3B

if Brantley comes back healthy there won't be any need to move anyone to the OF because Zimmer can play RF...he has a cannon for an arm and is a natural center fielder, so he could be a +2 to 3 WAR RF based on his defensive ability alone...if Brantley isn't healthy i'd like to see Guyer get a shot in LF

i have mixed feelings on Napoli's return...he had his best year ever but man he stunk in the playoffs...his absence does leave a glaring hole in our lineup tho, at least for the regular season

[tigeralum01]

Colorado Rockies pitcher Chad Bettis has been diagnosed with testicular cancer and underwent surgery to have one of his testicles removed in late November-



OUCH

[DrTorch]

so the count is 1 ball and 2 strikes?

[baldref]

The Twins have signed outfielder J.B. Shuck to a minor league deal with an invitation to spring training. Shuck, 29, hit .205/.248/.299 in 241 plate appearances for the White Sox in 2016

[galion]

Well good luck to him there.