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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jan 31, 2017 16:39:25 GMT -5
Tuesday 1/31
New Riegel @ Lake
Thursday 2/2
Oak Harbor @ Perkins Margaretta @ Vermilion Clyde @ Port Clinton Edison @ Huron
Calvert @ SMCC Old Fort @ St. Wendelin Lakota @ SJCC
Friday 2/3
Norwalk @ Bellevue Ontario @ Shelby Tiffin @ Willard
Saturday 2/4
Bellevue @ Margaretta New Riegel @ Tiffin Norwalk @ Vermilion Ontario @ Clear Fork Perkins @ Sandusky Shelby @ Clyde Willard @ Huron Firelands @ Edison Calvert @ Hopewell-Loudon Old Fort @ Arcadia Gibsonburg @ Lakota
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Post by ScarletFever on Feb 1, 2017 15:38:23 GMT -5
Is friday one of the Clywalk 10 point spread games? I honestly forget. It's one of the few entertaining things to pay attention to this yr.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 1, 2017 17:38:54 GMT -5
It is,,You got Willard +10 for $250 with Portwalk
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 21:29:21 GMT -5
Thursday 2/2 Edison @ Huron Varsity final score: Huron 66 Edison 56 2/OT. Was 14-9 Huron after 1, 28-22 Tigers at half, 40-37 Huron after 3, Tied at 49 end of regulation - Tigers missed an easy wide open layup as time expired, Tied at 53 after 1st overtime -Tigers missed a wide open 3 as time expired. All Huron in the 2nd overtime, outscored Edison 13-3. BCSN sure screwed up by not coming here. Never saw so many stoppages for explanations to the players and coaches by the officials in a game. Since when are the players entitled to receiving an explanation what the call is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 21:37:39 GMT -5
Thursday 2/2 other SBC Bay final scores
Vermilion 78 Margaretta 69 Perkins Township 55 Oak Harbor 36 Port Clinton 52 Clyde 51
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Post by portwalk on Feb 2, 2017 21:40:51 GMT -5
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Post by portwalk on Feb 2, 2017 21:41:40 GMT -5
It is,,You got Willard +10 for $250 with Portwalk Come on guys yes I will take TC -10 but I don't have buckeyekid money...
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Post by runshoot on Feb 2, 2017 22:01:43 GMT -5
Thursday 2/2 Edison @ Huron Varsity final score: Huron 66 Edison 56 2/OT. Was 14-9 Huron after 1, 28-22 Tigers at half, 40-37 Huron after 3, Tied at 49 end of regulation - Tigers missed an easy wide open layup as time expired, Tied at 53 after 1st overtime -Tigers missed a wide open 3 as time expired. All Huron in the 2nd overtime, outscored Edison 13-3. BCSN sure screwed up by not coming here. Never saw so many stoppages for explanations to the players and coaches by the officials in a game. Since when are the players entitled to receiving an explanation what the call is. bald head ref seemed to want to make 800 calls on both teams, then he got his digs going after hufnagle boys announcer. a control freak ref.
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Post by dump on Feb 3, 2017 8:22:52 GMT -5
Tigers dump the Chargers in double OT to keep pace in the SBC. Hohler leads the team with 19. You can tell the team really missed Pickett out there on the defensive glass, as he is yet to return from the woods (going on two weeks out there). Really like what i'm seeing from Casey VanCauwenberg, the kid continues to just dump layups out of his *** and in to the hoop. In my opinion, he's the X factor. I will not be surprised to see Vermilion lose here again to someone other than Huron, I just don't think they are very good. I bet Perkins beats them next time. The Tigers will have their work cut out for them in their next game against the Pirates, should be the game of the year in my opinion. GO TIgers
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Post by dump on Feb 3, 2017 8:27:45 GMT -5
Thursday 2/2 Edison @ Huron Varsity final score: Huron 66 Edison 56 2/OT. Was 14-9 Huron after 1, 28-22 Tigers at half, 40-37 Huron after 3, Tied at 49 end of regulation - Tigers missed an easy wide open layup as time expired, Tied at 53 after 1st overtime -Tigers missed a wide open 3 as time expired. All Huron in the 2nd overtime, outscored Edison 13-3. BCSN sure screwed up by not coming here. Never saw so many stoppages for explanations to the players and coaches by the officials in a game. Since when are the players entitled to receiving an explanation what the call is. Listen here Dumpy Mark- good refs have no problems explaining a call to a player. It's the control freak, narcissistic refs who have no dialogue with the players, which hurts the game. If a player has a question and asks that question in a respectful manner, this shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by raja on Feb 3, 2017 12:28:49 GMT -5
Tigers dump the Chargers in double OT to keep pace in the SBC. Hohler leads the team with 19. You can tell the team really missed Pickett out there on the defensive glass, as he is yet to return from the woods (going on two weeks out there). Really like what i'm seeing from Casey VanCauwenberg, the kid continues to just dump layups out of his *** and in to the hoop. In my opinion, he's the X factor. I will not be surprised to see Vermilion lose here again to someone other than Huron, I just don't think they are very good. I bet Perkins beats them next time. The Tigers will have their work cut out for them in their next game against the Pirates, should be the game of the year in my opinion. GO TIgers I think there is a good possibility that Vermilion will lose another game or 2 before the district playoffs begin, probably to Perkins or Huron but I still think they are a good team( great team - no ) I think Edison is a pretty good team also. You dont have to go undefeated all season to be considered good i believe. I just enjoy good basketball regardless of the teams records
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Post by quiz on Feb 3, 2017 20:09:52 GMT -5
Any update on Ontario boys vs. Shelby boys?
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 3, 2017 20:31:31 GMT -5
halftime scores:
Norwalk 28 Bellevue 17 Ontario 34 Shelby 33 Willard 23 Tiffin 19
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 3, 2017 21:05:41 GMT -5
OT in Shelby. My lord when will we get some fresh blood in the officiating corp.
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 3, 2017 21:05:51 GMT -5
Ontario ties the game with a 3 with 14 seconds left. Shelby turns it over with 1.5 seconds left. Ontario hits ceiling on inbounds. Back to Shelby. Shelby misses and we go to OT tied at 57.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 3, 2017 21:13:28 GMT -5
Tiffin 62 Willard 45 Final
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Feb 3, 2017 21:15:56 GMT -5
Bellevue 54 Norwalk 50 Final
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 3, 2017 21:21:55 GMT -5
Ontario-63 Shelby-60 F
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Post by quiz on Feb 3, 2017 21:22:05 GMT -5
Final: Ontario 63 Shelby 60 in overtime.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 3, 2017 21:24:03 GMT -5
Bellevue 54 Norwalk 50 Final Norwalk blew an 11 point halftime lead... However good to hear Haraway back on the floor and getting into double figures in hos first game back...
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Post by portwalk on Feb 3, 2017 21:24:24 GMT -5
Tiffin 62 Willard 45 Final
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Post by baldref on Feb 3, 2017 22:13:55 GMT -5
Exciting, intense game ontario vs shelby. Don't think either squad played their best but that happens when good defense dominates.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 3, 2017 23:00:19 GMT -5
PG Trey Jordon had quite a game for Ontario. I think 25 points on every possible spin move in the lane, a couple of 3-pointers and several unbelievable assists. He also leads the team in rebounds, tonight snatching a couple right off the rim. Ontario did a pretty good job of defending the 3-point line, so Shelby scored a lot on drives to the basket especially Geisler in the 1st half. Better to give up 2 than 3. In the 2nd half Balogh put the 6-7 Jones on Geisler which seemed to slow him down considerably. Ontario led by as many as 9 points in the first half, and led most of the 2nd half, but every time Ontario's lead would stretch out a little, Shelby always came back. Shelby led by 4, their biggest of the game, with around 1:30 left in regulation. Then Ontario had to come back to send it to OT. Being 3 to 5 inches taller and athletic at all 3 guard positions seemed to be the deciding factor for Ontario. Ontario 8-0 over Shelby in their 4 years in the NOL.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 3, 2017 23:05:44 GMT -5
OT in Shelby. My lord when will we get some fresh blood in the officiating corp. You can take a course and buy a whistle. Ontario had 10+ fouls in the 4th quarter. Shelby had only 4 fouls well into the OT period until they had to foul to put Ontario at the line to get the ball back.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 4, 2017 0:01:12 GMT -5
OT in Shelby. My lord when will we get some fresh blood in the officiating corp. You can take a course and buy a whistle. Ontario had 10+ fouls in the 4th quarter. Shelby had only 4 fouls well into the OT period until they had to foul to put Ontario at the line to get the ball back. I'm almost there. I have one daughter graduating and one left. I'm going to take the class and start doing the job. If I'm not in Columbus for the state tourney within five years I'll quit. The officiating is so bad right now it makes me ill. The officials should be invisible when they do their job. This crew influenced the outcome. That should never happen. JMO. I know it's not an easy job. I've played, coached, and officiated. When you can't even make it acrossed mid court you should hang up your wistle. When kids are doing things you only dreamed of you can't do the job. I would press Ontario on every square inch of the floor. Their ball handling is suspect for the first time in 4-5 years. It shouldn't have been close.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 4, 2017 3:57:56 GMT -5
GOOD, and good luck. I don't care if you're the greatest high school official ever to work in Ohio. You will not start out working varsity games of any significance. You knew John Gurney, how long did it take him to get to Columbus? There is some politics involved. You're right, some officials work past their prime. I bet though, every time one suggests he's going to hang it up, all other officials in their organization beg theme to keep officiating, since there's such a shortage.
If there was any "influence" in this game it was the disparity in fouls in favor of Shelby. The difference between you and me? I NEVER complain about the officiating. It doesn't put one in a good light.
How many games have you seen Ontario play the past 4 years? Not many, you don't even realize that they have the same "ball handlers" this year that they had last year. In the past 4 years they've not had more than one very good ball handler on a team. It's coaching that's hidden it.
"Ball handling" isn't always the best way to beat a press. Against Shelby, since Ontario's starting guards are all 3-5 inches taller than Shelby's, guards, passing over and around them could be a better press break. Then there's the 6-7 Jones to make an in bounds to over much shorter players.
In the past Shelby has tried to press Ontario and it hurt them. Balogh likes to attack presses and score off them. The past 2 years Schwemley has decided against it and has made the games closer. This year the only team that's had success pressing Ontario was Wooster and they're the #4 DI team in the State. Sandusky didn't press Ontario in either game. Lex didn't press Ontario. St. Pete's the #3 DIV team in the State didn't press Ontario until late when behind. Madison didn't press Ontario until late when behind. What does that imply? If I remember correctly Shelby tried some pressure early and it resulted in a couple of baskets for Ontario. The best thing to do against a decent team is to surprise press once in awhile, not giving them a chance to set up their press break. All Shelby had to do was press once, get one steal, make one more basket and win in regulation. Instead you're assuming a blowout with a full court press the entire game that better teams than Shelby didn't think was in their best interest? Also, I'm not sure Shelby has the depth to press the entire game. Outside of their three 5-9 starters, they'll need a couple of good guards off the bench to rotate in and out in order to press the entire game. They didn't come off the floor much tonight, they have to be out there most all of the game to win.
IMO Trey Jordon is the best PG Ontario has had in some time, all aspects of the game considered. It showed tonight against Shelby's backcourt
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Post by baldref on Feb 4, 2017 7:30:57 GMT -5
Somewhat surprised when shelby had 3 pt lead with less than a minute left they didn't use their two remaining fouls to try and break ontarios rhythm for the game tier.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 4, 2017 13:34:54 GMT -5
I was surprised when Shelby had the momentum after going up by 2 in the middle of the 4th that they ran their offense without even looking for a shot, obviously trying to shorten the game. IMO at that point of the game, when on a run and you've taken the lead you should keep pressing the action. Unless you're trying to give the players on the floor a little rest without taking them out.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 4, 2017 16:29:28 GMT -5
I agree. They "stalled" too soon. I agree with being patient for a good shot and not forcing it, but it was too soon not to try to score.
You only lose credibility if you always blame the refs. The fact is they influence the game sometimes. The ref at half court gave Ontario a timeout. The player was under the basket. He obviously didn't have possession because Shelby was shooting a put back before he was done blowing his wistle. No possession, no timeout. I realize that's only one play in a full game.
My opinion is Ontario's ball handling is not as good this year. You're allowed to disagree. As far as how much I've seen them, not as much as you, but two games a year and until this summer multiple summer shoot arounds because until recently I had two boys separated by a year that played for Shelby.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 4, 2017 16:34:05 GMT -5
Oh, and using Mr. Gurney as an argument that officiating in Columbus is political doesn't make your point. He was one of the best I've ever seen and he was a regular in Columbus. It may be political, but he isn't proof of that. My point was as bad as officiating has been in the last few years getting to Columbus would be easier than in the past.
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