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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 18, 2017 2:12:12 GMT -5
Typing was messed up, I was saying in both of the coaches. Have deep tourney runs. You're just guessing. Since 2005 when Matta came into the Big Ten Thad Matta - 2 Sweet 16, 2 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Runner-up Tom Izzo - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 2 Final Four, 1 Runner-up Bo Ryan - 3 Sweet 16, 1 Elite 8, 1 Final Four, 1 Runner-up All 3 coaches very similar
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Post by 4 on Jan 18, 2017 4:07:42 GMT -5
I'm not guessing. Very familiar with all 3 schools. Osu basketball has been at a decrease the last 3 years while msu and Wisconsin has not. Besides msu this year. Which they'll beat Ohio state the second time.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 18, 2017 7:05:16 GMT -5
On the road at Nebraska tonight. We won't have to wait long to see if the MSU performance was a fluke or not.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 18, 2017 8:29:03 GMT -5
The Buckeyes schedule the rest of the month:
Jan 15 Michigan St. Won 72-67 Jan 18 @nebraska 9:00 PM Jan 22 Northwestern 1:00 PM Jan 25 Minnesota 7:00 PM Jan 28 @iowa 8:00 PM Jan 31 Maryland 7:00 PM
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 18, 2017 18:15:47 GMT -5
I'm not guessing. Very familiar with all 3 schools. Osu basketball has been at a decrease the last 3 years while msu and Wisconsin has not. Besides msu this year. Which they'll beat Ohio state the second time. No, what you actually said was the Izzo and Ryan had tournament runs, but Matta didn't recently. I showed that their "runs" are almost exactly the same. Since Matta has been in the Big Ten. Granted, their "runs" came in different years. My question is, should Izzo and Ryan have been fired when their "runs" weren't occurring?
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Post by 4 on Jan 18, 2017 19:40:58 GMT -5
It just all depends if Matta can bounce back.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 18, 2017 23:13:46 GMT -5
OSU hoops team deserved a win like that one. Will it be a season changing pivot victory?
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Post by 4 on Jan 19, 2017 2:13:37 GMT -5
Nervous/fun game. Hopefully can keep it rolling. That last play worked well. Got defender away from loving for easy basket. Matt looked happy after great to see.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 19, 2017 8:25:15 GMT -5
The Buckeyes eek out back to back wins, that should be a confidence builder. Yes, that baseline inbounds play was beautifully executed....Kudos to coach Matta on that one!
Two things this team is sorely in need of: #1.....A quick, slick ball handling guard that can slice and dice a defense and distribute the ball. This team has no point guard.
#2.....Players that can step to the line and make foul shots. I'm sure the coaches have been working these guys hard at the foul line, but whatever time they are spending at the free throw line in practice, I would double that! I see better free throw shooting in middle school.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 8:49:55 GMT -5
The Buckeyes eek out back to back wins, that should be a confidence builder. Yes, that baseline inbounds play was beautifully executed....Kudos to coach Matta on that one! Two things this team is sorely in need of: #1.....A quick, slick ball handling guard that can slice and dice a defense and distribute the ball. This team has no point guard. #2.....Players that can step to the line and make foul shots. I'm sure the coaches have been working these guys hard at the foul line, but whatever time they are spending at the free throw line in practice, I would double that! I see better free throw shooting in middle school. Either you can shoot free throws or you can't by the time you're in college. Doubling time spent on them in practice is just taking away other things you could be working on and adding time to what isn't going to change
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Post by 4 on Jan 19, 2017 11:13:05 GMT -5
Next year a nice little point guard coming in that can really shoot too. Not sure how he is passing ball handling.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 19, 2017 13:37:03 GMT -5
The Buckeyes eek out back to back wins, that should be a confidence builder. Yes, that baseline inbounds play was beautifully executed....Kudos to coach Matta on that one! Two things this team is sorely in need of: #1.....A quick, slick ball handling guard that can slice and dice a defense and distribute the ball. This team has no point guard. #2.....Players that can step to the line and make foul shots. I'm sure the coaches have been working these guys hard at the foul line, but whatever time they are spending at the free throw line in practice, I would double that! I see better free throw shooting in middle school. Either you can shoot free throws or you can't by the time you're in college. Doubling time spent on them in practice is just taking away other things you could be working on and adding time to what isn't going to change I tend to disagree, most poor shooters have poor shooting mechanics and technique. It's extremely hard to break the methods they have used since grade school. On the other hand, Shaquil O'Neal had all kinds of technique coaches work with him, with a millenium of hours of repetitive practice, to no avail. If I was a coach, I wouldn't allow it to interfere with the normal practice regimen, but a glaring problem would constitute extending practice sessions to address an area of need.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 14:38:54 GMT -5
Either you can shoot free throws or you can't by the time you're in college. Doubling time spent on them in practice is just taking away other things you could be working on and adding time to what isn't going to change I tend to disagree, most poor shooters have poor shooting mechanics and technique. It's extremely hard to break the methods they have used since grade school. On the other hand, Shaquil O'Neal had all kinds of technique coaches work with him, with a millenium of hours of repetitive practice, to no avail. If I was a coach, I wouldn't allow it to interfere with the normal practice regimen, but a glaring problem would constitute extending practice sessions to address an area of need. You are only permitted so any hours of practice per NCAA rules. Either you can make them or you can't.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 19, 2017 17:58:49 GMT -5
I tend to disagree, most poor shooters have poor shooting mechanics and technique. It's extremely hard to break the methods they have used since grade school. On the other hand, Shaquil O'Neal had all kinds of technique coaches work with him, with a millenium of hours of repetitive practice, to no avail. If I was a coach, I wouldn't allow it to interfere with the normal practice regimen, but a glaring problem would constitute extending practice sessions to address an area of need. You are only permitted so any hours of practice per NCAA rules. Either you can make them or you can't. Good point on the hour limitation. On the 'you can make 'em or you can't'....think you would find an argument from most coaches. I know we have a few former coaches on here, would be interesting to hear their opinion on this.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jan 22, 2017 20:06:29 GMT -5
Today Northwestern defeated Ohio State in Columbus for the first time since February 24, 1977. It was also only the 2nd time Ohio State has lost to Northwestern at all since 1998.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 22, 2017 21:21:53 GMT -5
It's very frustrating to watch this team throw away any opportunity to pull out a very winnable game. Northwestern steps to the line and drain free throw after free throw, while the Buckeyes throw up bricks and clunkers, in the general direction of the rim....pathetic.
The clock is ticking Thad and time is not on your side.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 23, 2017 7:55:14 GMT -5
A good article in the Columbus Dispatch by Rob Oller. The gist of it---Lack of talent is #1 reason why the team is 12-8 and is playing the way they do. Is it X's and O's? Is it lack of development of the players? He made a case for saying that marginal talent can only be developed so much. Getting good players---That's on this staff and the head coach to do that. KBD is imo the top player on the roster--he's out for the season. Lyle is your next best player--the kid is just not good enough all the way around to win a game by himself---especially when as a team you shoot 12--23 in FT's in a close game.
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Post by 4 on Jan 23, 2017 10:25:57 GMT -5
Thompson been playing well inside hope he's more consistent tho. Really can't wait to have kaleb wesson on floor next year along with funderburke and the other freshman. Need new faces. I think next years team can be better than this one. Time to move on from loving I must say.
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Post by 4 on Jan 24, 2017 21:31:39 GMT -5
Just watched Westerville south vs upper Arlington. UA won on a buzzer beater. Goodwin for ua is a 2018 osu commit he had 35 I think. He can really score it and shoots. Big man Wesson for ws had 49 and dominated all game. He's gonna be a heck of an impact next year.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2017 0:23:18 GMT -5
A good article in the Columbus Dispatch by Rob Oller. The gist of it---Lack of talent is #1 reason why the team is 12-8 and is playing the way they do. Is it X's and O's? Is it lack of development of the players? He made a case for saying that marginal talent can only be developed so much. Getting good players---That's on this staff and the head coach to do that. KBD is imo the top player on the roster--he's out for the season. Lyle is your next best player--the kid is just not good enough all the way around to win a game by himself---especially when as a team you shoot 12--23 in FT's in a close game. I don't care who the head coach at Ohio State is, they will never get good players outside of their footprint. They all want to go to one of the top programs in the country or stay closer to home. Nor will they get THE TOP Ohio players, who also want to go to one of the big name schools. A free throw made here and there and Ohio State could be 16-4
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Post by 4 on Jan 25, 2017 1:47:46 GMT -5
I'm glad that they got the top Ohio player in 2017 class atleast.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 25, 2017 18:59:34 GMT -5
why can't OSU be a top flight program? good gravy. excuses excuses...we have the budget, gimme a break
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Post by 4 on Jan 25, 2017 21:09:30 GMT -5
Solid game by osu, Trevor Thompson is really playing good and Andre Wesson is playing well.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2017 22:51:30 GMT -5
why can't OSU be a top flight program? good gravy. excuses excuses...we have the budget, gimme a break They can if they out recruit Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, North Carolina, Virginia, Louisville, Michigan State, Arizona, Florida etal and their god like coaches. What are the odds of that?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 9:36:11 GMT -5
why can't OSU be a top flight program? good gravy. excuses excuses...we have the budget, gimme a break Because Ohio State football will always be number at the school. Big time recruits want to be the biggest celebrities on campus. Ohio State should be a top 25 program, but they will never be with the elites (Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, UNC)
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 26, 2017 21:55:46 GMT -5
well not with that attitude
seems like Jim Jackson was a pretty big man on campus...certainly bigger than Alonzo Spellman
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 26, 2017 21:59:10 GMT -5
why can't OSU be a top flight program? good gravy. excuses excuses...we have the budget, gimme a break They can if they out recruit Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, North Carolina, Virginia, Louisville, Michigan State, Arizona, Florida etal and their god like coaches. What are the odds of that? you trying to tell me we can't out recruit Virginia? c'mon, you would blast another poster for saying that the odds of a place like OSU being able to land a godlike coach are certainly a lot better than Virginia, or UCLA who wouldn't even pay Wooden reality check boss, we're OSU not the Sisters of the Poor
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 26, 2017 22:34:23 GMT -5
Tell us, in the HISTORY of Ohio State basketball, how many 4 star players has Ohio State gotten outside of Ohio, Indiana and the Chicago area? You can count them on one hand. The teams mentioned get the top players from all over the country including from Ohio.
You're talking without knowledge again, underling. Look at Virginia's roster. Tell us what their record was last year and this year. What do you know about the Virginia coach? One of the good young coaches in the country is head coach at UCLA. There are more 4 and 5 star players in the state of California then the entire mid-west. Wooden must have been like Woody. Woody turned down raises, he thought he was paid too much for being where he wanted to be, doing what he loved.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 7:49:20 GMT -5
well not with that attitude seems like Jim Jackson was a pretty big man on campus...certainly bigger than Alonzo Spellman Didn't realize we are in the early 90's. Thanks for letting me know that
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 27, 2017 16:28:26 GMT -5
When Jackson played he was a man among boys for the positions he played. That would not be the case today.
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