marchmadness
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Post by marchmadness on Jul 3, 2018 15:53:13 GMT -5
I've heard nothing of Haraway playing, but I may be out of the loop. I doubt he plays unless he commits to a college in the next month or so for basketball. If he does play, why would he not play qb? That is the one position they are lacking...and he is all league caliber.?
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Post by piratefan on Jul 4, 2018 8:07:44 GMT -5
I'm ashamed to, but I have to admit, I gave up on the Pirates last year, and just went to "the best game in the area" on Friday nights. So I didn't really see too much of Perkins last year. I'm wondering if there is any underclassmen talent coming up this year that will help? Things looked pretty dismal last year on South Campbell Street. What are your thoughts about the Pirates this year?
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Post by Birdman on Jul 4, 2018 16:58:20 GMT -5
Never heard about anything that year, but I know one player who left and I can tell you being on the team and everyone on it. There was no discipline dealt out for something gross.
I think there might be a story that turned out with no merit.
Hopefully the pirates are good this year. I might have to catch a game this year or a few since I’m off on fridays.
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 4, 2018 21:54:06 GMT -5
I'm ashamed to, but I have to admit, I gave up on the Pirates last year, and just went to "the best game in the area" on Friday nights. So I didn't really see too much of Perkins last year. I'm wondering if there is any underclassmen talent coming up this year that will help? Things looked pretty dismal last year on South Campbell Street. What are your thoughts about the Pirates this year? Don’t feel bad piratefan, you weren’t the only one who checked out on the pirates last year judging from number of empty seats. The only thing missing from the games last year was yakety sax playing over the pa during the games, it was a mess. Depth is going to be the main concern this season as there are only around 30 kids in grades 10-12 on the team this year. They lost key kids to ineligibility, other schools, and some just plain quit. They also lost a talented kid with the death of Stone Ambose as well. The good news is that there are around 20 freshman, will any of them dress Friday nights and be able to contribute at the varsity level, that remains to be seen. I expect 2nd team SBC Senior FB Jackson will carry the load. Senior RB Hunter is the fastest track kid playing D3 football this year, will they try to get him in open space, maybe. At QB either Smith or Grude, both have some decent speed. OL, not many backups with size. At WR, their Senior speedster is ineligible, but they still have a kid with decent hands in Clinton. On the defensive side, I expect to see more of what I seen last season. They had 4 games with a running clock, and 2 more that were very close to a running clock. Every quarterback who threw against us looked like Tom Brady out there. You can blame the coaching staff, or you can blame the kids, (I think it’s a little of both) what we seen last year was not pirate football. If the staff runs the same predictable offense with the same 10 plays and the kids allow off the field distractions get in the way, 0-10. If the coaches mix it up a little and the kids buckle down, 3-7 maybe 4-6.
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Post by piratefan on Jul 5, 2018 8:10:27 GMT -5
^^^^^^ Not a very promising outlook...
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Post by ScottT on Jul 5, 2018 10:57:50 GMT -5
Only around 30 kids? Oh my...
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 5, 2018 21:10:08 GMT -5
Is the Hunter kid still missing?
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 5, 2018 22:11:36 GMT -5
Is the Hunter kid still missing? I’ve been told he was at practice the week before the no contact period.
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Post by dolittle on Jul 6, 2018 11:15:46 GMT -5
I'm ashamed to, but I have to admit, I gave up on the Pirates last year, and just went to "the best game in the area" on Friday nights. So I didn't really see too much of Perkins last year. I'm wondering if there is any underclassmen talent coming up this year that will help? Things looked pretty dismal last year on South Campbell Street. What are your thoughts about the Pirates this year? At WR, their Senior speedster is ineligible, but they still have a kid with decent hands in Clinton. Who is ineligible?
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 6, 2018 11:33:11 GMT -5
At WR, their Senior speedster is ineligible, but they still have a kid with decent hands in Clinton. Who is ineligible? Not touching on that. He’s a good kid and I’m not going to embarrass him, I’m sure he already feels bad about missing his senior year of football. He’s a fast kid, would have made it to regionals in track in the 100 and 200 if not for an injury. Just know that they lost their fastest WR and 2nd fastest kid on the team next to Hunter.
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 6, 2018 20:59:20 GMT -5
^^^^^^ Not a very promising outlook... Sorry, I know that’s not what any pirate football fan was wanting to hear, but I could be wrong on the outcome. It’s just my opinion.
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 6, 2018 21:04:45 GMT -5
Only around 30 kids? Oh my... I’ll say more like 33 or 34 in grades 10-12 to be a little more accurate. Still not great.
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Post by piratefan on Jul 7, 2018 8:16:12 GMT -5
Not trying to stir up trouble, but what do you think is the problem with the Pirate football program? I know that high school football has cycles of good and bad runs, depending on the strength of athletic classes from year to year, but the problem seems to run deeper than just not having good athletes at the moment. Interest in playing Pirate football seems to be down, and even the young men that are playing don't seem to have their hearts in the game. The "Pirate Pride" that I've always seen is just not there. Not knocking the players because I blame the coaching for that. So, is coaching the problem? Is the coaching staff the problem? Lack of discipline?
The Pirates have had a couple "off" seasons, but overall they've had a pretty good run for the last 20 years. I'm not in the "inner circle" by any means, I'm just a longtime fan. I don't want to bash anyone, and I hate to see anyone lose their job, but I think the coaching staff needs a major upgrade. Since Quiz left things have been slowly spiraling downward. Maybe it's time to think about making some coaching changes because obviously this just ain't workin'. IMHO.
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 7, 2018 10:35:04 GMT -5
Not trying to stir up trouble, but what do you think is the problem with the Pirate football program? I know that high school football has cycles of good and bad runs, depending on the strength of athletic classes from year to year, but the problem seems to run deeper than just not having good athletes at the moment. Interest in playing Pirate football seems to be down, and even the young men that are playing don't seem to have their hearts in the game. The "Pirate Pride" that I've always seen is just not there. Not knocking the players because I blame the coaching for that. So, is coaching the problem? Is the coaching staff the problem? Lack of discipline? The Pirates have had a couple "off" seasons, but overall they've had a pretty good run for the last 20 years. I'm not in the "inner circle" by any means, I'm just a longtime fan. I don't want to bash anyone, and I hate to see anyone lose their job, but I think the coaching staff needs a major upgrade. Since Quiz left things have been slowly spiraling downward. Maybe it's time to think about making some coaching changes because obviously this just ain't workin'. IMHO. Well piratefan, I believe the coaches and players share the blame. Ultimately the coaches are the ones that set the tone for a program, this is just the tone they have set. In terms of athletics, Perkins should be at a peak. This Senior class was 9-0 their freshman year, and the Juniors 8-1. The Senior class lost a few after their Freshman year, but have maintained around 14 kids since. The junior class had around 30 their freshman year, which is now down to around 10-11. Something is making these kids quit when they reach the varsity level, most of the ones who remain do so reluctantly because they have no other choice. If you were a kid who worked hard during 2-a-day practices and then watched from the sidelines while kids who sat out during some or most of 2-a-days started come week 1, you would be upset too. This happened during the season as well. It tells me as a young player, no matter how good I am or how hard I try, if the kid over me has a parent who is a “somebody” in Perkins or they are a upper classman, I have no chance at playing. This is but 1 of the problems here at Perkins. Now in the coaches defense, this years graduating class and the Jr.’s and Sr.’s this year have a couple of prima donnas who really don’t think their poop stinks. Some of these prima donnas are constantly coddled by the coaching staff, and can do no wrong in their eyes. This creates an undertone of resentment and that negativity impacts the team. One kid threw a fit on the field during a game, throwing his helmet and receiving a 15 yard penalty. What was he upset about you might ask, well his teammate cut in front of him and intercepted the football. Hardly anyone seen this unfold as they were watching the player race up the sidelines with the interception, but no punishment was dealt out. I told Zeigler on a couple of occasions, I really don’t know how he puts up with it. So that pirate pride that you speak of, it’s not there for now. Perkins is not the same school it was in the past. This reflects on the student body, and a students attitude is set in the home. The culture has changed here, and I’m not sure that old Perkins discipline is coming back anytime soon.
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Post by piratefan on Jul 7, 2018 11:17:17 GMT -5
Thanks, heavydrop, for your honesty. Not a good scenario. You seem to have the "inside" on things, so I'll look forward to your posts on the situation.
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 7, 2018 12:56:52 GMT -5
Thanks, heavydrop, for your honesty. Not a good scenario. You seem to have the "inside" on things, so I'll look forward to your posts on the situation. Not really an inside. I coached the Jr. class along with some other dads in 5th and 6th grade, but my kids will be attending a different school in the fall. I’ve watched the class above and the class below play through the years. I don’t know much about the incoming freshman class, other than there are around 20 of them and their small (as most freshman would be). I will continue to be a Perkins football fan, just as I have for the past 20+ years. There are still some good kids here, but will their work ethic rub off on those who allow off the field distractions to get in the way remains to be seen.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Jul 12, 2018 12:19:12 GMT -5
How is 7 on 7 season going for everyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 15:53:32 GMT -5
I saw Sandusky vs. Mentor Lake Catholic today for 7 on 7. Sandusky will not have same caliber of passing attack as previous years but they will still be solid throwing the ball to their playmakers. Mentor Lake put it to them pretty good a times. Either way, the Stewart kid should touch the ball 20-25 times a game for the next two years if Franklin is smart. Sandusky's junior class is solid and incoming freshman class is nice as well. The freshman class has another Javez Alexander type of qb/athlete if he puts the time in.
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Post by footballfan on Jul 23, 2018 19:00:58 GMT -5
Norwalk Bellevue Sandusky Clyde Tiffin Perkins I might change this after week 3. Don't know who has what back just a early prediction. LOL
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 23, 2018 22:18:41 GMT -5
Norwalk Bellevue Sandusky Clyde Tiffin Perkins I might change this after week 3. Don't know who has what back just a early prediction. LOL Your predictions may be better than mine. As situations develop, it’s looking more like we’ll have a champion other than Sandusky or Clyde. Clyde and Bellevue will always be a tough game, but on paper Norwalk is making a serious case.
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Post by whippet4life on Jul 24, 2018 6:25:42 GMT -5
Not trying to stir up trouble, but what do you think is the problem with the Pirate football program? I know that high school football has cycles of good and bad runs, depending on the strength of athletic classes from year to year, but the problem seems to run deeper than just not having good athletes at the moment. Interest in playing Pirate football seems to be down, and even the young men that are playing don't seem to have their hearts in the game. The "Pirate Pride" that I've always seen is just not there. Not knocking the players because I blame the coaching for that. So, is coaching the problem? Is the coaching staff the problem? Lack of discipline? The Pirates have had a couple "off" seasons, but overall they've had a pretty good run for the last 20 years. I'm not in the "inner circle" by any means, I'm just a longtime fan. I don't want to bash anyone, and I hate to see anyone lose their job, but I think the coaching staff needs a major upgrade. Since Quiz left things have been slowly spiraling downward. Maybe it's time to think about making some coaching changes because obviously this just ain't workin'. IMHO. Well piratefan, I believe the coaches and players share the blame. Ultimately the coaches are the ones that set the tone for a program, this is just the tone they have set. In terms of athletics, Perkins should be at a peak. This Senior class was 9-0 their freshman year, and the Juniors 8-1. The Senior class lost a few after their Freshman year, but have maintained around 14 kids since. The junior class had around 30 their freshman year, which is now down to around 10-11. Something is making these kids quit when they reach the varsity level, most of the ones who remain do so reluctantly because they have no other choice. If you were a kid who worked hard during 2-a-day practices and then watched from the sidelines while kids who sat out during some or most of 2-a-days started come week 1, you would be upset too. This happened during the season as well. It tells me as a young player, no matter how good I am or how hard I try, if the kid over me has a parent who is a “somebody” in Perkins or they are a upper classman, I have no chance at playing. This is but 1 of the problems here at Perkins. Now in the coaches defense, this years graduating class and the Jr.’s and Sr.’s this year have a couple of prima donnas who really don’t think their poop stinks. Some of these prima donnas are constantly coddled by the coaching staff, and can do no wrong in their eyes. This creates an undertone of resentment and that negativity impacts the team. One kid threw a fit on the field during a game, throwing his helmet and receiving a 15 yard penalty. What was he upset about you might ask, well his teammate cut in front of him and intercepted the football. Hardly anyone seen this unfold as they were watching the player race up the sidelines with the interception, but no punishment was dealt out. I told Zeigler on a couple of occasions, I really don’t know how he puts up with it. So that pirate pride that you speak of, it’s not there for now. Perkins is not the same school it was in the past. This reflects on the student body, and a students attitude is set in the home. The culture has changed here, and I’m not sure that old Perkins discipline is coming back anytime soon. Interesting post. I must admit that we have had this issue in the past and it destroys the loyal base of a community and splinters the team. I see it in schools all around us, still. There are a few kids that get the special treatment and the kids that put in the same amount of hard work and time get shafted. These special kids never get disciplined but if a kid that may not be in the circle does one thing wrong he is chewed on. Don't think for a second kids don't see this and make a decision to go another direction. This has been going on since the beginning of time and always will until you have kids that respect authority and coaches that don't pamper certain kids because of who they are, or who their parents are. The nice thing about my whippets, we have a staff that has built in discipline and respect and it shows with numbers and on the field. Sure, we have a few kids that have their noses in the air but overall the coaches deal with that and help them see it is the coaches way or the highway. Putting kids on a pedestal only hurts the program in the long run.
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Post by gncc394 on Jul 24, 2018 9:18:55 GMT -5
FYI Haraway picked up his helmet yesterday Truckers now the preseason favorite to win the league. They couldn't tackle him the last time he played and he's bigger faster and stronger then the last time he suited up. Look for an All Ohio season from him. Truckers 9-1 regular season and a few playoff wins this year.
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Post by sport24278 on Jul 24, 2018 11:00:09 GMT -5
I assume the above post is sarcasm?
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Post by whippet4life on Jul 24, 2018 11:19:43 GMT -5
I assume the above post is sarcasm? Has to be. More like 1-9 with no playoff appearance.
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Post by chs71 on Jul 24, 2018 12:55:30 GMT -5
I watched some video of Norwalk last year. They had two nice running backs and a terrible offensive line. It looked like more of a problem of coaching than ability to me.
just sayin'...
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Post by whippet4life on Jul 24, 2018 13:09:03 GMT -5
I watched some video of Norwalk last year. They had two nice running backs and a terrible offensive line. It looked like more of a problem of coaching than ability to me. just sayin'... Fox will have them on track. I could realistically see them going 7-3. He can definitely get players to be overachievers. It is all about the delivery of the message and he must have a knack for it.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jul 24, 2018 13:51:42 GMT -5
Knowing nothing about who is returning for Norwalk from last year's team, and having only seen them play against Shelby (who made everybody look terrible last season), I'd say Norwalk could be a decent threat. Besides Shelby last season, Norwalk lost their games by an average of 10 points (four of those losses were to playoff teams). I know they lost to Sandusky by 3, but I believe Sandusky wasn't playing some of their players that night for some reason? Either way, I can see a turnaround happening.
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Post by kritz on Jul 24, 2018 14:04:21 GMT -5
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Post by litebrite on Jul 25, 2018 7:35:41 GMT -5
How'd Clyde look in 7 on 7?
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Post by areafan1 on Jul 25, 2018 20:54:44 GMT -5
How'd Clyde look in 7 on 7? Thought Clyde looked ok for a run first team this year. One great (and only) receiver and an average QB. Clyde strength this season will be our running backs, offensive and defensive lines.
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