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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 1, 2018 7:20:41 GMT -5
4:00 on FOX
Ohio State leads the all time series 74-9-4
The last time Ohio State had an emotional comeback 1 point win over Penn State they turned around the next week fell completely apart at Iowa. With that in mind, it's a good thing this game is at home.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 1, 2018 9:30:22 GMT -5
4:00 on FOX Ohio State leads the all time series 74-9-4 The last time Ohio State had an emotional comeback 1 point win over Penn State they turned around the next week fell completely apart at Iowa. With that in mind, it's a good thing this game is at home. Iowa was a trap game in every sense last year. It was a lesson learned and this year, everyone is well aware of how and why the train derailed last year. It most assuredly, will not happen again this year. The Buckeyes understand they did not play their best in the 1st half last week. Expect them to rectify that this week and come out strong and aggressively.
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Post by Buckeye2b on Oct 2, 2018 10:43:18 GMT -5
Trap game... 1st half is hairy but they get it smoothed in the 2nd and put IU in a sleeper hold..
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 2, 2018 16:10:38 GMT -5
With that in mind, it's a good thing this game is against Indiana There you go
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Post by Rambo McClain on Oct 6, 2018 16:17:23 GMT -5
Haskins got a concussion on the play before the INT. Urb needs to take him out now or we are in some deep doo doo.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 6, 2018 18:59:23 GMT -5
That was pretty rough for a while, but ended up with a decent finish
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Post by Birdman on Oct 6, 2018 22:23:36 GMT -5
Typical game after a big one. Have to continue to grind it out.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 7, 2018 6:22:15 GMT -5
Haskins got a concussion on the play before the INT. Urb needs to take him out now or we are in some deep doo doo. That play could have brought out the yellow flags and probably should have. Haskins helmet hit hard and bounced. He should have been pulled out for observation at that point and the intereception would have been avoided.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 7, 2018 6:31:51 GMT -5
The defense continues to be a major concern. Development and improvement is not happening as quickly as most of us anticipated. This is going to be an ongoing project and hopefully see some measurable results in the coming weeks.
The other major concern is the mysterious disappearance of our once vaunted running game. The Buckeyes have evolved into a one dimensional offense, relying primarily on Haskins arm, due to a putrid running game. The blame has to lie with the OL doing an adequate pass blocking, but not moving people and sustaining blocks for our talented RB's.
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Post by galion on Oct 7, 2018 8:07:35 GMT -5
The 2 rb's went for over 150 yards. Not hateful, but if the defense is committed to stopping the run and is willing to give up 455 yards in passing then you take it.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Oct 7, 2018 9:03:02 GMT -5
Haskins got a concussion on the play before the INT. Urb needs to take him out now or we are in some deep doo doo. That play could have brought out the yellow flags and probably should have. Haskins helmet hit hard and bounced. He should have been pulled out for observation at that point and the intereception would have been avoided. I agree, the whistle blew then they picked him up and slammed him forcing his head to bounce off the ground. I don't think he was all there on that INT. I thought that might have been a severe concussion and we'd see slow/poor decision making the rest of the game, but by the way he played after that play it looks like it was a mild concussion where ones focus comes back to near 100% after a few plays.
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2018 9:06:40 GMT -5
48 run plays and 44 pass plays but we have become one dimensional?
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Post by Rambo McClain on Oct 7, 2018 9:10:44 GMT -5
The defense continues to be a major concern. Development and improvement is not happening as quickly as most of us anticipated. This is going to be an ongoing project and hopefully see some measurable results in the coming weeks. +1
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Post by Rambo McClain on Oct 7, 2018 9:12:30 GMT -5
48 run plays and 44 pass plays but we have become one dimensional? More to do with yardage balance 455 yards passing 154 yards rushing
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2018 9:22:16 GMT -5
48 run plays and 44 pass plays but we have become one dimensional? More to do with yardage balance 455 yards passing 154 yards rushing
I understood the output but OSU is clearly not a one dimensional team by design when they are evenly using the offense. Maybe a more accurate statement would be that Indiana has a one dimensional defense. We did not hand the ball off 48 times with a a plan to get 3yds a carry.
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 7, 2018 9:29:02 GMT -5
With Bosa out we also haven’t been getting as much pressure on the qb the last few games it seems like. Teams can focus more on Young now than when Young and Bosa were out there together. Cooper was a high level prospect but unfortunately he’s no Bosa. Also, think about how many people we’ve lost in the secondary over the last few seasons, either by graduation or leaving early for the NFL. Hooker only played one season before leaving. With all the departures we need these guys with no experience to step up quickly.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 7, 2018 17:50:44 GMT -5
More to do with yardage balance 455 yards passing 154 yards rushing
I understood the output but OSU is clearly not a one dimensional team by design when they are evenly using the offense. Maybe a more accurate statement would be that Indiana has a one dimensional defense. We did not hand the ball off 48 times with a a plan to get 3yds a carry. Even Meyer has expressed the need to restore the Buckeye rushing attack that has been sedated that past 3 games. 3.2 ypc is not establishing the run game, very pedestrian. Looking at the individual carries of any significance (5 yards or more) for the entire game: 1st QTR. Dobbins 9 yds. Dobbins 8 yds. 2nd QTR. Weber 10 yds. Weber 21 yds. Weber 9 yds. 3rd QTR. Haskins 10 yds. 4th QTR Haskins 8 yds. Dobbins 6 yds. Most of the totes were for 2-3 yds. and some for negative yardage. With the 1-2 tandem of Weber and Dobbins, the running game should be robust, not what we have been seeing. The blame is not on the RB's, the OL simply needs to get more push and drive off their blocks.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 7, 2018 20:38:18 GMT -5
The 2 rb's went for over 150 yards. Not hateful, but if the defense is committed to stopping the run and is willing to give up 455 yards in passing then you take it. Almost every time Ohio State ran the ball it put Ohio State in a bad situation, 2nd and long or 3rd and long. Every time Ohio State runs the ball it is good for the opponent. Ohio State does much better when they're in an empty backfield, but it's a waste to put Weber or Dobbins out wide when they have so many talented wide receivers.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 7, 2018 20:45:25 GMT -5
I understood the output but OSU is clearly not a one dimensional team by design when they are evenly using the offense. Maybe a more accurate statement would be that Indiana has a one dimensional defense. We did not hand the ball off 48 times with a a plan to get 3yds a carry. Even Meyer has expressed the need to restore the Buckeye rushing attack that has been sedated that past 3 games. 3.2 ypc is not establishing the run game, very pedestrian. Looking at the individual carries of any significance (5 yards or more) for the entire game: 1st QTR. Dobbins 9 yds. Dobbins 8 yds. 2nd QTR. Weber 10 yds. Weber 21 yds. Weber 9 yds. 3rd QTR. Haskins 10 yds. 4th QTR Haskins 8 yds. Dobbins 6 yds. Most of the totes were for 2-3 yds. and some for negative yardage. With the 1-2 tandem of Weber and Dobbins, the running game should be robust, not what we have been seeing. The blame is not on the RB's, the OL simply needs to get more push and drive off their blocks. This year, because of Haskins, Ohio State's O-line specializes in pass blocking. When Ohio has had a running QB the O-line specialized in run blocking. The NCAA no longer allows enough practice time to do both equally well. I don't care how many run vs pass plays are called. When your pass yardage is 3 times greater than rushing yardage, which is being worked on more in practice? One thing we found out for certain in this game. Not only can't Haskins run, he's not very athletic, his slides after scrambles were embarrassing. ALSO he's chicken. Twice he could have gotten a first down by putting his head down and running through a DB that was 30 pounds lighter than him instead of falling down in front of him. I think someone gave him a message, because the 4th time he DID put his head down and got a first down instead of wussing out.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 7, 2018 20:49:08 GMT -5
With Bosa out we also haven’t been getting as much pressure on the qb the last few games it seems like. Teams can focus more on Young now than when Young and Bosa were out there together. Cooper was a high level prospect but unfortunately he’s no Bosa. Also, think about how many people we’ve lost in the secondary over the last few seasons, either by graduation or leaving early for the NFL. Hooker only played one season before leaving. With all the departures we need these guys with no experience to step up quickly. I have never likedArnette at CB, move him to safety. Against Indiana Arnette was beaten badly on deep routes FIVE times. Luckily 2 of them were over thrown.
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Post by galion on Oct 7, 2018 20:49:49 GMT -5
The 2 rb's went for over 150 yards. Not hateful, but if the defense is committed to stopping the run and is willing to give up 455 yards in passing then you take it. Almost every time Ohio State ran the ball it put Ohio State in a bad situation, 2nd and long or 3rd and long. Every time Ohio State runs the ball it is good for the opponent. Ohio State does much better when they're in an empty backfield, but it's a waste to put Weber or Dobbins out wide when they have so many talented wide receivers. You still have to run it to make the defense commit to stopping the run. That's one of the reasons that the passing game flourished. Even if it doesn't seem like it's accomplishing much it's keeping the safeties home and keeping the DL honest.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 7, 2018 21:04:10 GMT -5
Indiana stopped the Ohio State run game with only 5 or 6 in the box. They're not even trying to stop the Ohio State run game and Ohio State can't average 3 yards per carry. It's a waste of a down. IF YOU NOTICE....Ohio State's successful "run game" this year consists of short passes. I'd MUCH rather see a pass that gains 5 yards than a run that gains 2 yards. ALSO our fumbles haven't come after a completed pass, they've come on run plays. This offense is built around a pass ONLY QB, a bunch of talented experienced WRs and a pass blocking O-line. Would you rather see 2nd and 8 or 2nd and 4 or 5?? With the possibility of every short pass going for a 20 yard gain or a TD? MAYBE if they passed the ball 80% of the time instead of 50% the occasional run play might fool em, they can't block em.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 7, 2018 22:48:31 GMT -5
Indiana stopped the Ohio State run game with only 5 or 6 in the box. They're not even trying to stop the Ohio State run game and Ohio State can't average 3 yards per carry. It's a waste of a down. IF YOU NOTICE....Ohio State's successful "run game" this year consists of short passes. I'd MUCH rather see a pass that gains 5 yards than a run that gains 2 yards. ALSO our fumbles haven't come after a completed pass, they've come on run plays. This offense is built around a pass ONLY QB, a bunch of talented experienced WRs and a pass blocking O-line. Would you rather see 2nd and 8 or 2nd and 4 or 5?? With the possibility of every short pass going for a 20 yard gain or a TD? MAYBE if they passed the ball 80% of the time instead of 50% the occasional run play might fool em, they can't block em. Sounds pretty one dimensional to me! If we have designs on a Big Ten Championship and a run in the playoffs, we need to get the running game going, plain & simple. I think it is still too early to draw absolutes on exactly who and what this team is and what they are capable of doing.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 7, 2018 23:05:28 GMT -5
Indiana stopped the Ohio State run game with only 5 or 6 in the box. They're not even trying to stop the Ohio State run game and Ohio State can't average 3 yards per carry. It's a waste of a down. IF YOU NOTICE....Ohio State's successful "run game" this year consists of short passes. I'd MUCH rather see a pass that gains 5 yards than a run that gains 2 yards. ALSO our fumbles haven't come after a completed pass, they've come on run plays. This offense is built around a pass ONLY QB, a bunch of talented experienced WRs and a pass blocking O-line. Would you rather see 2nd and 8 or 2nd and 4 or 5?? With the possibility of every short pass going for a 20 yard gain or a TD? MAYBE if they passed the ball 80% of the time instead of 50% the occasional run play might fool em, they can't block em. Sounds pretty one dimensional to me! If we have designs on a Big Ten Championship and a run in the playoffs, we need to get the running game going, plain & simple. I think it is still too early to draw absolutes on exactly who and what this team is and what they are capable of doing. Can't have a run game with an QB that IS NOT a threat to run and throws for 450 per game. EXAMPLE of what's needed, Tua Tagovailoa. A one dimensional QB can get you to the playoffs, but can't win it without the exact opposite of Haskins, Alabama's QB.
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Post by galion on Oct 8, 2018 1:08:00 GMT -5
Haskins is every bit the running threat that Cardale was.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 8, 2018 1:14:57 GMT -5
Haskins is every bit the running threat that Cardale was. Surely you jest. Did you watch the game?? Haskins is so bad he looked silly trying to slide. He was such a chicken he was afraid to put his head down and try to get a first down when a DB that was 30 pounds lighter was in front of him. Cardale wasn't afraid of anything.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 2:59:59 GMT -5
Could Tate Martell be that dual threat ?
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 8, 2018 13:07:27 GMT -5
Haskins is every bit the running threat that Cardale was. Running 'threat'? Cardale was physically intimidating, when he tucked it in. Haskins a running 'threat'? LOL.............. He runs like someone's grandmother.. I think with time and experience, he can become at least respectable.
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Post by galion on Oct 8, 2018 13:14:31 GMT -5
Respectable? He's already rewriting the record books as we speak.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 8, 2018 17:08:23 GMT -5
WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU WANT THAT GOLDEN ARM RUNNING?!!?!
you guys are morons
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