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Post by sport24278 on Jan 29, 2020 9:02:11 GMT -5
Tahj Staveskie was coming off and injury last year nobody wants too take that into account.. Not making excuses but the kid missed all aau was not able too play all summer.. From my knowledge Tahj was not even supposed too possibly play his whole junior season or comeback late February from his initial diagnosis and surgery.. He worked extremely hard during his rehab process and got cleared right before the season. Coming off a major surgery he was out of basketball for 7 months.. Tahj from reports was never himself all season it took him almost march too get his legs back too feeling somewhat normal.. So this notion Brandon haraway outplayed Tahj let's put this in perspective.. Tahj beat Brandin 3 times as a sophmore and his freshman year they beat Brandon 2 times.. And the rankings are not legit they are too a who's who.. More than evaluating kids solely on there skills and ability.. I witnessed myself Tahj outplay other prominent guards in Ohio. I can recall and event in Columbus Tahj sophmore year Nike city series an event put on by All Ohio red.. Tahj was voted best player at event regardless of class.. and it was some of the top players in the state there representing all differing classes.. Prep hoops Ohio told me out of there mouth they rank kids not on skills but what offers and interest they are receiving from colleges.. So any kid who already as d1 offers or is getting recruited by D1 represent top tier of rankings and everything trickles down from that a system based off of that is not valid.. Every kid recrutimemt is different some kids are in position too get recruited early by the prominence of there high school programs or high school connections with college coaches or they may play for a high profile aau program where they are getting opportunities too get seen by college coaches.. This does not determine if a player is better than another player so with that being stated none of those rankings have validity.. And in my honest opinion I believe Haraway could have played at a Mac school and played d1.. I think he settled for Ashland a d2.. But who am I to tell a kid what he wants for his future.. But to @streaknation for you too state Tahj is a d2 caliber player is mind boggling do you watch college basketball it's a premium for guards too be skilled like Tahj and shoot the ball off the dribble like this kid can.. In my honest opinion I believe Tahj Staveskie is high major guard who should be in the big ten big East somewhere.. he has the size needs too get a little stronger.. But he can add size at a college program but the ability I seen this kid put on display is like none other in the state.. It's no other guard with Tahj range and ability too shoot off the dribble left and right ability too create space and his shot.. can run the screen and roll high level like the kid and athletic enough too finish in traffic.. the Kid has shown me alot this year I have been too majority of Sandusky games this season and this kid has shown me he is the real deal.. I don't know where @streaknation gets off that Tahj is a d2 guy if you really watch basketball on the highest levels you can see this kid has the game.. and as far as his recruitment I can't speculate I hear he has interest from some d1 schools.. But reach out too his coach or AD and ask the kid is not being recruited.. You can't be recruited by colleges if no college no about you facts.. If Tahj Staveskie had Ohio State and Michigan State and all the other big ten schools coming too his games and practices watching this kid play he would have some offers.. From my knowledge of what close ones too the kid told me is his recruitment is not up too par bc no college coaches are being contacted on his behalf.. If schools came and watched this kid's they would be impressed and I can see him getting offers but it's not happening that's why he does not have the offers.. And for the notion he does not have the grades the kid is a qualifier so let's dead that notion There are 347 division 1 college basketball programs, with 347 head coaches, none of whom have offered him. Yet YOU know better than all of them?
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Post by rywill4 on Jan 29, 2020 10:01:59 GMT -5
The topic wasn't if Tahj Staveskie could play d1 somehow we get back too if this kid has the ability too too play d1 basketball.. In my opinion the kid has the ability too play at a high major from what I have seen him put on display only time will tell what his future is.. Tahj Staveskie has proven he is one of the best players in the state if rankings don't recognize the kid that's absurd and you can't take any rankings seriously bc no other guard or player has displayed some of the things the kids has displayed this year facts.. And too that this comes back too my original post I never saw a top player in any division who has his or her team 15-0 and not be ranked in the AP poll top 10 that's fact..
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Post by 94hoops on Jan 29, 2020 12:17:45 GMT -5
Tahj is the best player in the area. He has the numbers (PPG) that he may be recognized as a 1st team all ohio or 2nd team all ohio selection. That does not make him a top 5 player in the state however IMHO. RWILL4 is entitled to his opinion but it appears as if knowledgable basketball people outside of the Sandusky system disagree with your assessment. To call him a high major Big Ten or Big East player is a huge stretch IMHO and unfair to Tahj himself. I do believe just like Haraway that he could play low level MAC but a D2 program probably fits him better. His size, strength and more importantly his speed or acceleration make him a D2 player. Many players like both Haraways (Brandon and Ben) were missing one of these three traits that could have taken them to the next level. Ben dominated two great teams in the state tournament in Dayton Thurgood Marshall being guarded by a Big 10 recruit and defending State Champs Bishop Watterson who had the player of the year as their PG the year before. Without all 3 traits as a PG or shooting guard (size, strength and quickness) many great players games suit them as D2 players.
As far as Sandusky goes, I assume if there not in the top 10 now they wont be at the time of the last poll. The last poll is probably before the Rogers game I think and they may prevent them from moving up if they get a big win there.
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Post by edchambers on Jan 29, 2020 14:54:30 GMT -5
The last poll comes out the Monday after the Rogers game. There have only been 17 voters the past couple of weeks. The guy from the Toledo Blade had Sandusky at #5 this week (more than half of Sandusky's points) while the cleveland.com guy didn't give them a sniff. With four teams from the Southeast District in the top twelve in D2, it's really difficult to take the poll seriously.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 29, 2020 15:12:38 GMT -5
Just beat Rogers, baby!
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Post by dude on Jan 29, 2020 15:13:09 GMT -5
The last poll comes out the Monday after the Rogers game. There have only been 17 voters the past couple of weeks. The guy from the Toledo Blade had Sandusky at #5 this week (more than half of Sandusky's points) while the cleveland.com guy didn't give them a sniff. With four teams from the Southeast District in the top twelve in D2, it's really difficult to take the poll seriously. Although I enjoy seeing local teams get recognized, I hope they do not get ranked so rywill4 keeps coming on to whine about the worthlessness of the rankings while saying his team should be on them in the novels he writes.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 29, 2020 16:41:29 GMT -5
The topic wasn't if Tahj Staveskie could play d1 somehow we get back too if this kid has the ability too too play d1 basketball.. In my opinion the kid has the ability too play at a high major from what I have seen him put on display only time will tell what his future is.. Tahj Staveskie has proven he is one of the best players in the state if rankings don't recognize the kid that's absurd and you can't take any rankings seriously bc no other guard or player has displayed some of the things the kids has displayed this year facts.. And too that this comes back too my original post I never saw a top player in any division who has his or her team 15-0 and not be ranked in the AP poll top 10 that's fact.. YOU were the one who used Tahj's play as one of the reasons Sandusky should be ranked in the AP top 10. Spurious at best. In Balogh's 34 years, he's only had 1 player receive a DI scholaship and that player just averaged 15ppg. BUT he was 6-9 240, significantly more rare than 6-1.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 29, 2020 17:10:54 GMT -5
The topic wasn't if Tahj Staveskie could play d1 somehow we get back too if this kid has the ability too too play d1 basketball.. In my opinion the kid has the ability too play at a high major from what I have seen him put on display only time will tell what his future is.. Tahj Staveskie has proven he is one of the best players in the state if rankings don't recognize the kid that's absurd and you can't take any rankings seriously bc no other guard or player has displayed some of the things the kids has displayed this year facts.. And too that this comes back too my original post I never saw a top player in any division who has his or her team 15-0 and not be ranked in the AP poll top 10 that's fact.. YOU were the one who used Tahj's play as one of the reasons Sandusky should be ranked in the AP top 10. Spurious at best. In Balogh's 34 years, he's only had 1 player receive a DI scholaship and that player just averaged 15ppg. BUT he was 6-9 240, significantly more rare than 6-1. yep.. Huron has not seen a D-1 basketball player since Gus Johnson 6'1 (early 90's) and that was at Ohio U.. had another one in late 80's (Jim Springer 6'8 went to D-1 Richmond) Cody Thompson played basketball but went D-1 on a scholarship to Toledo now he is with the Seattle Seahawks. a few others from football in the 90's...
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 29, 2020 17:15:37 GMT -5
Also, that Balogh team that had that big kid WAS ranked in the top 10. Just proves that 6-9 240 is more noticeable than 6-1. That team lost in the Regional Finals. They only lost 2 games that year, both teams were State Champions. We'll have to see what 6-1 does.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 29, 2020 18:10:33 GMT -5
YOU were the one who used Tahj's play as one of the reasons Sandusky should be ranked in the AP top 10. Spurious at best. In Balogh's 34 years, he's only had 1 player receive a DI scholaship and that player just averaged 15ppg. BUT he was 6-9 240, significantly more rare than 6-1. yep.. Huron has not seen a D-1 basketball player since Gus Johnson 6'1 (early 90's) and that was at Ohio U.. had another one in late 80's (Jim Springer 6'8 went to D-1 Richmond) Cody Thompson played basketball but went D-1 on a scholarship to Toledo now he is with the Seattle Seahawks. a few others from football in the 90's... Rob Majoy and Jim Fisher come to mind.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 29, 2020 18:22:15 GMT -5
yep.. Huron has not seen a D-1 basketball player since Gus Johnson 6'1 (early 90's) and that was at Ohio U.. had another one in late 80's (Jim Springer 6'8 went to D-1 Richmond) Cody Thompson played basketball but went D-1 on a scholarship to Toledo now he is with the Seattle Seahawks. a few others from football in the 90's... Rob Majoy and Jim Fisher come to mind. rob majoy football illinois , jim fisher football ttun, eric degroh -football WV (NFL tampa bay) , Mark VanMeter football UPenn from the 90's robert dence - football dayton 2001..
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 29, 2020 20:44:43 GMT -5
When did this become a football forum?
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 29, 2020 21:17:09 GMT -5
When did this become a football forum? I can do a dissertation on Staveski and Sandusky if you like.
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Post by warningtrackpower on Jan 29, 2020 22:12:12 GMT -5
If he's played in and played well in all of these top AAU tourneys then why hasn't he gotten on the radar of coaches. If you read any register article Irish raves about him so I don't understand the comment about no one is contacting college coaches for him...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 6:19:30 GMT -5
If he's played in and played well in all of these top AAU tourneys then why hasn't he gotten on the radar of coaches. If you read any register article Irish raves about him so I don't understand the comment about no one is contacting college coaches for him... Typical Sandusky excuse for many people who live in the past. If my coach would have did this and that, it gets old, been hearing about it from many of the players who didn’t play D1 one. Face the fact that you were not good enough or you didn’t have the academics.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 30, 2020 9:50:25 GMT -5
17,469 male athletes received a D-1 basketball scholarship in 2018-19 Over 546,000 male athletes played high school basketball in 2018-19.. I think if i do the math that is about 3% ... that is 3 out of every 100 male athletes receive a full ride division I college scholarship to play basketball... in 2018-19 Ohio ranked 18th in the nation in athletes receiving D-1 college basketball scholarships. the ODDS were 120 to 1 in receiving one... very nice website explains scholarshipstats.com/basketball.htm
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Post by rywill4 on Jan 30, 2020 10:02:50 GMT -5
Again all this Tahj Staveskie talk about what level he can play on is laughable first off yes everyone is entitled too there own opinion but the disrespect the kid receives on this forum is mind boggling.. Tahj is still in the midst of his season so how can you predict where he is going too end up.. I guess most of you are Nostradamus bc Tahj is not 35 where is career is solidfied and wrapped up.. His playing career has just begun so again we will see where the kid ends up I hope you all keep that same energy when he does decide where he is going
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2020 10:02:54 GMT -5
17,469 male athletes received a D-1 basketball scholarship in 2018-19 Over 546,000 male athletes played high school basketball in 2018-19.. I think if i do the math that is about 3% ... that is 3 out of every 100 male athletes receive a full ride division I college scholarship to play basketball... in 2018-19 Ohio ranked 18th in the nation in athletes receiving D-1 college basketball scholarships. the ODDS were 120 to 1 in receiving one... very nice website explains scholarshipstats.com/basketball.htm You could also try to factor in that this player is possibly able to play 1 or 2 of the positions on the floor for most of those D1 teams. So that could reduce his chances by more than half of what you just pointed out. He is not competing against players over 6'4 for 3 of the spots on a team.
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2020 10:12:24 GMT -5
Again all this Tahj Staveskie talk about what level he can play on is laughable first off yes everyone is entitled too there own opinion but the disrespect the kid receives on this forum is mind boggling.. Tahj is still in the midst of his season so how can you predict where he is going too end up.. I guess most of you are Nostradamus bc Tahj is not 35 where is career is solidfied and wrapped up.. His playing career has just begun so again we will see where the kid ends up I hope you all keep that same energy when he does decide where he is going I do not read any disrespect as most who have posted agree he is a very good player. The majority of predictions of his career that have been made come from your posts. The other posts simply point out the over whelming obvious fact that there have been no D1 offers made up to this point. You post his accomplishments for us to read in your novels but we do not give D1 offers. What is laughable, is if you feel there is any disrespect towards this kid it should be directed towards the D1 programs that you feel have not given your kid a look and an offer. Not the posters on this site who thing the kid is a good player.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 30, 2020 10:26:27 GMT -5
Again all this Tahj Staveskie talk about what level he can play on is laughable first off yes everyone is entitled too there own opinion but the disrespect the kid receives on this forum is mind boggling.. Tahj is still in the midst of his season so how can you predict where he is going too end up.. I guess most of you are Nostradamus bc Tahj is not 35 where is career is solidfied and wrapped up.. His playing career has just begun so again we will see where the kid ends up I hope you all keep that same energy when he does decide where he is going Again i have watched him...great athlete.. never mention anything about HE CAN"T play division I.. You are the one that keeps kicking it around you can't understand why they're not looking at him... My response to you is why don't you ask them why they're not looking at him? "Little fish, Big Pond" I understand how recruiting works..believe me.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 30, 2020 10:28:05 GMT -5
17,469 male athletes received a D-1 basketball scholarship in 2018-19 Over 546,000 male athletes played high school basketball in 2018-19.. I think if i do the math that is about 3% ... that is 3 out of every 100 male athletes receive a full ride division I college scholarship to play basketball... in 2018-19 Ohio ranked 18th in the nation in athletes receiving D-1 college basketball scholarships. the ODDS were 120 to 1 in receiving one... very nice website explains scholarshipstats.com/basketball.htm You could also try to factor in that this player is possibly able to play 1 or 2 of the positions on the floor for most of those D1 teams. So that could reduce his chances by more than half of what you just pointed out. He is not competing against players over 6'4 for 3 of the spots on a team. you are absolutely right. this was just an outline.. if you break it down, its really really a slight chance.
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Post by edchambers on Jan 30, 2020 14:59:47 GMT -5
Prep Hoops Ohio has Sandusky at #10 in their newest power rankings. They show Glenville as Sandusky's only quality win. Lima Shawnee is #3, Rogers is #4, and Cleveland Central Catholic is #5. Upper Sandusky and Huron are in their top twenty.
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2020 17:51:57 GMT -5
Prep Hoops Ohio has Sandusky at #10 in their newest power rankings. They show Glenville as Sandusky's only quality win. Lima Shawnee is #3, Rogers is #4, and Cleveland Central Catholic is #5. Upper Sandusky and Huron are in their top twenty. So who is this ranking completed by? Who provides the info for PHO?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 19:45:21 GMT -5
Halfime: Sandusky and Perkins Tied 29 each. That could be a reason why they're not a top 10.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 30, 2020 19:46:25 GMT -5
Halfime: Sandusky and Perkins Tied 29 each. That could be a reason why they're not a top 10. BINGO nuff said
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Post by streak05 on Jan 30, 2020 20:15:10 GMT -5
Halfime: Sandusky and Perkins Tied 29 each. That could be a reason why they're not a top 10. And it’s now 49-34 Sandusky, but yeah that’s it.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 30, 2020 20:17:57 GMT -5
Halfime: Sandusky and Perkins Tied 29 each. That could be a reason why they're not a top 10. And it’s now 49-34 Sandusky, but yeah that’s it. The fact that they played one half even doesn’t change my opinion BINGO
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Post by streak05 on Jan 30, 2020 20:21:41 GMT -5
And it’s now 49-34 Sandusky, but yeah that’s it. The fact that they played one half even doesn’t change my opinion BINGO Didn’t Willard lose to Margaretta? Isn’t Willard ranked top 10?
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Post by streak05 on Jan 30, 2020 20:23:24 GMT -5
And for the record, I don’t really care if Sandusky is ranked top 10 or not. Just saying, 1 half doesn’t define an entire body of work.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 30, 2020 20:27:14 GMT -5
Their body of work includes a win over Glenville by a couple a win over Norwalk, Lex and a series of beatdowns of bad teams. Does NOT add up to a top 10 ranking...
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