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Post by streak05 on Jan 30, 2020 20:30:51 GMT -5
Their body of work includes a win over Glenville by a couple a win over Norwalk, Lex and a series of beatdowns of bad teams. Does NOT add up to a top 10 ranking... You’re missing my point. You made the claim that they aren’t top ten because they were tied with Perkins at half. That’s not why. Your second point off their schedule is a more accurate assessment. Glad I could help.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 30, 2020 20:45:29 GMT -5
Their body of work includes a win over Glenville by a couple a win over Norwalk, Lex and a series of beatdowns of bad teams. Does NOT add up to a top 10 ranking... You’re missing my point. You made the claim that they aren’t top ten because they were tied with Perkins at half. That’s not why. Your second point off their schedule is a more accurate assessment. Glad I could help. Norwalk V Perkins 60-22 @ Perkins and NO Norwalk is not a top 10 nor top 20 etc... So yeah to play a half even with Perkins IMO means NOT top 10... My Opinion...
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Post by streak05 on Jan 30, 2020 22:09:12 GMT -5
You’re missing my point. You made the claim that they aren’t top ten because they were tied with Perkins at half. That’s not why. Your second point off their schedule is a more accurate assessment. Glad I could help. Norwalk V Perkins 60-22 @ Perkins and NO Norwalk is not a top 10 nor top 20 etc... So yeah to play a half even with Perkins IMO means NOT top 10... My Opinion... Sandusky vs Norwalk 62-36 even without Tahj for the 2nd half. So the H2H logic is hardly ever justifiable. Just my opinion.
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Post by portwalk on Jan 30, 2020 22:37:49 GMT -5
Norwalk V Perkins 60-22 @ Perkins and NO Norwalk is not a top 10 nor top 20 etc... So yeah to play a half even with Perkins IMO means NOT top 10... My Opinion... Sandusky vs Norwalk 62-36 even without Tahj for the 2nd half. So the H2H logic is hardly ever justifiable. Just my opinion. Norwalk is NOT Perkins the point is an entire half of b-ball and its a push not good
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2020 23:09:43 GMT -5
On Feb 7 Sandusky will prove to be the team in the lake with what I think could be a 20+ win. All things considered that the game is being played at Sandusky but if Norwalk plays well and the Streaks are not in control it could be closer to a 12 point game.
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Post by streak05 on Jan 31, 2020 17:08:48 GMT -5
On Feb 7 Sandusky will prove to be the team in the lake with what I think could be a 20+ win. All things considered that the game is being played at Sandusky but if Norwalk plays well and the Streaks are not in control it could be closer to a 12 point game. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Norwalk really take the air out of the ball in that game, considering how Sanduskys pressure on defense and fast break opportunities on offense really buried Norwalk in the 3rd quarter last time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:55:33 GMT -5
Again all this Tahj Staveskie talk about what level he can play on is laughable first off yes everyone is entitled too there own opinion but the disrespect the kid receives on this forum is mind boggling.. Tahj is still in the midst of his season so how can you predict where he is going too end up.. I guess most of you are Nostradamus bc Tahj is not 35 where is career is solidfied and wrapped up.. His playing career has just begun so again we will see where the kid ends up I hope you all keep that same energy when he does decide where he is going Tahj is not a D1 caliber player and the Perkins game solidified my thoughts and that is okay. I hope he proves me wrong. He can be very successful playing division 2. Just because he was trained by BOB doesn’t make him D1. He is a solid player and deserve every recognition he gets because he worked his butt off.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 31, 2020 22:08:29 GMT -5
IF Tahj was 2 inches taller, 15 pounds heavier, averaged 18 PPG and 10 assists per game he'd be a lock to play DI ball. If he played for a private school in Cincinnati it would also help.
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 1, 2020 21:35:04 GMT -5
@streaknation Tahj just had 31 points on Mansfield Sr your point.. You state bc he had 19 pts against Perkins he is not a high major d1 guard.. Perkins boxed and 1 Tahj all game and sent help if they didn't follow him all over court so stop with this notion bc of one game he is not d1.. look at his body of work he averaging 29 pts 5asst 6rbs so quit hating you got streak pride like you repping streak nation but you side line hating on Tahj.. and too speak on who Tahj trains with is even more reason too believe you a hater bc he works out with a group of individuals @streaknation what are you trying too imply by that comment???
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 1, 2020 21:40:10 GMT -5
@streaknation Tahj just had 31 points on Mansfield Sr your point.. You state bc he had 19 pts against Perkins he is not a high major d1 guard.. Perkins boxed and 1 Tahj all game and sent help if they didn't follow him all over court so stop with this notion bc of one game he is not d1.. look at his body of work he averaging 29 pts 5asst 6rbs so quit hating you got streak pride like you repping streak nation but you side line hating on Tahj.. and too speak on who Tahj trains with is even more reason too believe you a hater bc he works out with a group of individuals @streaknation what are you trying too imply by that comment??? why is it everytime this guy posts it feels like im looking for waldo in it ? everything seems to run together.
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Post by crimson5 on Feb 1, 2020 21:41:26 GMT -5
Again all this Tahj Staveskie talk about what level he can play on is laughable first off yes everyone is entitled too there own opinion but the disrespect the kid receives on this forum is mind boggling.. Tahj is still in the midst of his season so how can you predict where he is going too end up.. I guess most of you are Nostradamus bc Tahj is not 35 where is career is solidfied and wrapped up.. His playing career has just begun so again we will see where the kid ends up I hope you all keep that same energy when he does decide where he is going Tahj is not a D1 caliber player and the Perkins game solidified my thoughts and that is okay. I hope he proves me wrong. He can be very successful playing division 2. Just because he was trained by BOB doesn’t make him D1. He is a solid player and deserve every recognition he gets because he worked his butt off. Sounds to me like he's just being a realist, not a hater at all.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 1, 2020 21:55:47 GMT -5
@streaknation Tahj just had 31 points on Mansfield Sr your point.. You state bc he had 19 pts against Perkins he is not a high major d1 guard.. Perkins boxed and 1 Tahj all game and sent help if they didn't follow him all over court so stop with this notion bc of one game he is not d1.. look at his body of work he averaging 29 pts 5asst 6rbs so quit hating you got streak pride like you repping streak nation but you side line hating on Tahj.. and too speak on who Tahj trains with is even more reason too believe you a hater bc he works out with a group of individuals @streaknation what are you trying too imply by that comment??? When are you going to understand, It's not first and foremost about points for a "high major" DI PG. And we all know he's too short to play a 2 Guard for a "high major" DI. YOU should stop "hating on" the realists of the world.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 1, 2020 22:02:34 GMT -5
I feel like after watching some highlights,,imo his has the handles to be a mid major D1 player. He looks good to me. Somebody will take him. Is he a Senior?
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Post by bsports on Feb 1, 2020 22:11:48 GMT -5
Would love to see Tahj have a great collegiate career. Agree with C5 though in that I don't think most folks are hating on him at all. Tonight's game wasn't exactly a great performance. I know that almost sounds silly since he ended with that many points but it seemed that nearly half were from the foul line. Would have like to have seen him pull up a little more and drop a 10 - 15 footer. Love to see the mid-range since that (and beyond) would be the majority of the shots he would get. Not trying to keep the Nick Dials train moving but he showed what a great ball handler, assist man and shooter could do. If I compare the two there is not a close comparison. Again, I haven't as many Tahj games as some of the other greats but would have liked to have seen a little better shooting performance from all over the floor against such a quick defense tonight to really sway my opinion. Good player and hope he can prove most folks wrong and succeeds at the next level.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 22:45:39 GMT -5
If you aren’t offered by a single D1 school by this time in your senior year it makes it very hard to get a scholarship. Most mid-major have their classes figured out by now. Mid-majors don’t really worry about players leaving early, so they know how many scholarships they have available
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 23:00:19 GMT -5
@streaknation Tahj just had 31 points on Mansfield Sr your point.. You state bc he had 19 pts against Perkins he is not a high major d1 guard.. Perkins boxed and 1 Tahj all game and sent help if they didn't follow him all over court so stop with this notion bc of one game he is not d1.. look at his body of work he averaging 29 pts 5asst 6rbs so quit hating you got streak pride like you repping streak nation but you side line hating on Tahj.. and too speak on who Tahj trains with is even more reason too believe you a hater bc he works out with a group of individuals @streaknation what are you trying too imply by that comment??? A group of individuals who continue to imply its always the coaches fault why we didn’t make it to the NBA or get a D1 scholarship. Like I said, I hope he proves me wrong, but reality and statistics are not on his side. He is a phenomenal player and he has worked his tail off. Just tired of Sandusky mentality as to why some kids don’t go d1 especially in basketball.
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 1, 2020 23:28:09 GMT -5
Since there wasn’t anything on tv tonight worth a crap. I spent most of the night watching on demand bcsn games if Sandusky this season. Focusing on this kid. I’ve really never just focused on him. But. IMO. This kid can play D-1 basketball. There is a lot to offer in this kid and I think he is got a lot to offer in his game It’s too late for big ten. Unless he wanted to walk on. But he could fit into the MAC . And let’s face it. We’re not talking NBA. We’re talking 4 years of college. He would be a lock at a D2 school.
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Post by streak05 on Feb 2, 2020 0:08:09 GMT -5
Since there wasn’t anything on tv tonight worth a crap. I spent most of the night watching on demand bcsn games if Sandusky this season. Focusing on this kid. I’ve really never just focused on him. But. IMO. This kid can play D-1 basketball. There is a lot to offer in this kid and I think he is got a lot to offer in his game It’s too late for big ten. Unless he wanted to walk on. But he could fit into the MAC . And let’s face it. We’re not talking NBA. We’re talking 4 years of college. He would be a lock at a D2 school. I made this point a couple weeks ago. Staveskie outplayed Zeb Jackson, a 2020 Michigan commit from Maumee, Meechie Johnson, a 2021 Ohio State commit from Garfield Heights. Staveskie dropped 50 on Garvin Clarke, a 2020 Akron commit from Euclid. That was during his AAU run
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Post by streak05 on Feb 2, 2020 0:10:09 GMT -5
Would love to see Tahj have a great collegiate career. Agree with C5 though in that I don't think most folks are hating on him at all. Tonight's game wasn't exactly a great performance. I know that almost sounds silly since he ended with that many points but it seemed that nearly half were from the foul line. Would have like to have seen him pull up a little more and drop a 10 - 15 footer. Love to see the mid-range since that (and beyond) would be the majority of the shots he would get. Not trying to keep the Nick Dials train moving but he showed what a great ball handler, assist man and shooter could do. If I compare the two there is not a close comparison. Again, I haven't as many Tahj games as some of the other greats but would have liked to have seen a little better shooting performance from all over the floor against such a quick defense tonight to really sway my opinion. Good player and hope he can prove most folks wrong and succeeds at the next level. Different eras of basketball. The midrange game is dying at nearly every level, especially college and the NBA.
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Post by streak05 on Feb 2, 2020 0:12:07 GMT -5
@streaknation Tahj just had 31 points on Mansfield Sr your point.. You state bc he had 19 pts against Perkins he is not a high major d1 guard.. Perkins boxed and 1 Tahj all game and sent help if they didn't follow him all over court so stop with this notion bc of one game he is not d1.. look at his body of work he averaging 29 pts 5asst 6rbs so quit hating you got streak pride like you repping streak nation but you side line hating on Tahj.. and too speak on who Tahj trains with is even more reason too believe you a hater bc he works out with a group of individuals @streaknation what are you trying too imply by that comment??? A group of individuals who continue to imply its always the coaches fault why we didn’t make it to the NBA or get a D1 scholarship. Like I said, I hope he proves me wrong, but reality and statistics are not on his side. He is a phenomenal player and he has worked his tail off. Just tired of Sandusky mentality as to why some kids don’t go d1 especially in basketball. I haven’t seen one person give the excuse that it’s the coaches fault. Irish is doing everything he can to advocate for the kid. He also has the grades. What others are saying about themselves has 0 to do with Tahj and Irish.
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Post by dude on Feb 2, 2020 0:35:54 GMT -5
So if the kid has the grades, Coach is doing all he can, can score on anyone, has outplayed every D1 recruit he has faced and has D1 skills, why does he not have any offers?
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 2, 2020 1:16:04 GMT -5
First off who is being a realist everyone on her has an opinion and speculation about a kid future like you guy's are Nostradamus..Then you state I'm blaming his high school coach as too the reason Tahj is not committed or has any d1 offers.. Then @streaknation you mention who Tahj workouts with as implying too myself that's the only reason I'm making statement about whether Tahj can play d1.. your statement seems a little personal in my opinion.. 2nd I don't respect any of tou guy's opinions regarding college basketball first off bc none of you reputable sources too evaluate whether or whether not a kid can play d1 ball.. I have talked too creditable sources.. for all you guys that what too speculate ask Sonny Johnson Chet Mason Quincy Simpson Sean Flannery.. Jerry Watson Mike Duncan Dru Joyce sr these are all creditable sources who know how too evaluate high school talent if every last one of them state Tahj Staveskie is a d1 kid I think I have some creditable validation too back up my statements I'm not just talking off personal feelings watch the footage it doesnt lie if you stack him up with other d1 guards he checks the boxes.. when people mention height as and factor I can't even take tour evaluation serious bc there are so many players playing major d1 basketball around the 5-10 6-0 range.. There are players in the NBA 6-0 6-1 kemba walker trae young Jj barea DJ Augustin carson Edwards tremont waters quin cook chris Paul Dennis Schroeder Jeff Teague Isaiah Thomas Ish Smith shabazz Napier Pat Beverley Frank Mason Kyle Lowry Patty Mills and there are a hoist of others I just named a few playing at the highest level at 6-0 6-1 range.. And you guys give this notion Tahj is too small at 6-0.. I can't even take you serious as a talent evaluator bc the statistics are saying 6-0 is a good height too play college level basketball I'm not saying Tahj Staveskie is an NBA player but the statistics show there are numerous players in NBA around that height so that's not out the realm but you say college at his height is not possible okay too me that's saying you can't like holes in his game so you say silly things like that.. Bc I have asked all who oppose Tahj playing d1 on this forum too state something within his game that will hold him back from playing d1 I'm waiting..
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 2, 2020 1:24:24 GMT -5
I don't know the kids coach personally I stated ask his coach why he does not have interest never blamed his coach bc I don't know.. I'm just a talent evaluator who evaluates high school kids playing performance from what this kid has shown me I grade him out as a high major prospect I have seen no one in Ohio being able too duplicate what this kid's has put on display.. I have seen every guard in the 2020 class and 2021 class the only other guard comparable is Meechie Johnson from my evaluations and he is committed too Ohio State.. There are plenty of varying factors too why the kid may not have offers.. I just go off what I have seen from watching tape the kid checks most majority of the boxes the only area of concern I have with the kid is him getting stronger adding some more weight too his frame.. I believe on a college regiment he can make those additions easily.. Tahj Staveskie has graded out this season so far too a high major guard
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 2, 2020 1:31:54 GMT -5
Comparing Tahj too Nick Dials is not and accurate assessment.. Nick dials was not a point guard he played off the ball his whole high school career and could never handle it or move athletically like Tahj Staveskie.. and accurate comparison would be Xavier Simpson same height similar build I would compare there high school career over Nick dials
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Post by streak05 on Feb 2, 2020 1:33:34 GMT -5
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 2, 2020 7:40:42 GMT -5
Rywill I’m puzzled why the kid doesn’t have any D1 offers either. How are his grades? Gotta be some reason.
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 2, 2020 8:10:40 GMT -5
Rywill I’m puzzled why the kid doesn’t have any D1 offers either. How are his grades? Gotta be some reason. agree 100% And people need to know... colleges look for athletes with good backgrounds first.. if you're not a good three point shooter but have everything else going for you..they will put the time and effort into you to get out of you what they want.. This kid could play MAC basketball.. He doesn't need to be 6'5 to fit one of their rosters..
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 2, 2020 14:21:30 GMT -5
Bc I have asked all who oppose Tahj playing d1 on this forum too state something within his game that will hold him back from playing d1 I'm waiting.. "Oppose"?? I have not read ONE person "oppose". It is VERY VERY silly to ask that question of anyone on here. Ask the 350 DI coaches who have not yet offered. They are the ONLY ones that matter.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 2, 2020 15:18:17 GMT -5
Comparing Tahj too Nick Dials is not and accurate assessment.. Nick dials was not a point guard he played off the ball his whole high school career and could never handle it or move athletically like Tahj Staveskie.. and accurate comparison would be Xavier Simpson same height similar build I would compare there high school career over Nick dials So you're comparing him to Ohio D1 POY and multiple year starter at Michigan in the Big Ten... Also not real sure you watched Nick Dials @ Willard was the engine with the ball in his hands that made them go
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 2, 2020 15:46:49 GMT -5
Rywill4, you are no longer allowed to make multiple posts in a row. My darn eyes hurt.
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