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Post by galion on Sept 16, 2016 21:28:00 GMT -5
True wf, but at least the drive is shorter and the food around there is better.
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Post by galion on Sept 16, 2016 21:30:11 GMT -5
Well, we lost 2 more qb's and we quit tackling and blocking when we get tired. Other than that it wasn't a bad night. Our band did a great job.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 21:36:01 GMT -5
The new MOAC? You really think that Ontario is on the same level as JA? We actually make out pretty well in that trade off. Relax guy we're young. Next season will go a lot better. You will still have North Union, River Valley, Pleasant and a improving Marion Harding that will run this league when JA is gone. Clear Fork and Ontario will be in the bottom half.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 16, 2016 21:36:40 GMT -5
I will say this, at least our stadium doesnt smell like port o john urinal cakes.
I would say that we got tired and should have substituted more but some other poster here implied that coaches always know better so.... yeah.
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Post by galion on Sept 16, 2016 21:43:16 GMT -5
Really? Sub in who? If they had anyone left who could compete at that level without putting them at risk don't you think they'd be playing them? Football isn't basketball or baseball. It's a violent contact sport. You put a kid in who is not physically up to the task you risk getting someone seriously injured.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 16, 2016 21:55:18 GMT -5
You're right. Ive seen the error of my ways. We should probably just take one bus and only dress 20 boys because the rest are physically unable to play on friday.
I disagree,
Apparently by your insight, 2, 19, 7 and 11 must be physically unable to play on fridays because they got injured during the normal course of the game.
Im not saying play a backup from the freshman team. We have 10th and 11th graders who could come in. NOT because they are better than the starters because they are not, but because we have a majority of players playing both ways the whole game and a break could be beneficial.
And one more thing, i wouldnt call what i saw tonight "competing at the varsity level"
Weve lot the last 3 games by 108 points, an average of 36.0 points per game with probably the best team in the league coming up. We are NOT heading in the right direction at this point.
Trust me, i am not one of those fans calling for anyones head but am also not blind to the obvious fact that we are performing worse each game.
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Post by galion on Sept 16, 2016 22:35:01 GMT -5
OK. So we lose our starting qb. To replace him we move one our 2 best receivers to qb. For them to move in the "right" direction would require 2 back ups in key positions to play as well or better than the people they replaced. Now we lose our 2nd qb and we moved our emergency qb from his receiver position and replaced him as well. I'm not going to lie to you I seriously doubt we win any of those games without the injuries. We are not a fundamentally sound along both lines of scrimmage nor do we appear to terribly well conditioned. You can't just decide to come out and play in August and try to make up for what you chose not to do in the off season. There were fewer kids in the weight room last spring than I can remember in a long time. I knew we were screwed then.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 16, 2016 22:42:10 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying and please dont think its personal.
Like i said, our backups are not better than our starters. I am suggesting a break, maybe 2 series' of downs to rest them, not to punish them. Even the NCAA stars come out for a few plays every now and then and they dont play both ways all game.
But galiontiger made a good point in the other thread that maybe our conditioning is not up to par this year.
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Post by galion on Sept 16, 2016 22:47:50 GMT -5
Don't worry, I don't take anything said on here personally. Does anyone have any info on #19? It's very unusual to take someone away in the squad.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 16, 2016 22:51:29 GMT -5
Yeah, that was a mystery to everyone. Took him off the field on the opposite side and never saw him again.
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Post by cowtown on Sept 17, 2016 0:22:20 GMT -5
On the subbing issue . I remember when I played on the varsity and we were just thrashing a team . I mean there was NO WAY they would come back . It was the 3rd quarter and I still recall asking myself what the heck was I doing out here on the field . I felt bad for all the guys on the side lines that the coach would just toss in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter . They showed up for practice just like I did and deserved time on the field to feel like they were part of something instead of tackling dummies used only in practice . I don't know but it was just a odd idea that hit me while I was a player back in the day.
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Post by galion on Sept 17, 2016 4:40:02 GMT -5
That's what the JV games are designed to do. Let those players compete against players of a like skill set so that they can improve. Moac's point is not so much about the end of a blowout but subbing kids in during the course of a game say in the 2nd or 3rd quarters.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 17, 2016 10:55:45 GMT -5
Galion JV 12, buckeye valley's 7.
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Post by gt1975 on Sept 17, 2016 11:19:02 GMT -5
This season is like a flashback to before Hawkins got here.
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Post by galion on Sept 17, 2016 11:57:24 GMT -5
Or the season that Hawkins got here.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 17, 2016 12:33:01 GMT -5
On the subbing issue . I remember when I played on the varsity and we were just thrashing a team . I mean there was NO WAY they would come back . It was the 3rd quarter and I still recall asking myself what the heck was I doing out here on the field . I felt bad for all the guys on the side lines that the coach would just toss in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter . They showed up for practice just like I did and deserved time on the field to feel like they were part of something instead of tackling dummies used only in practice . I don't know but it was just a odd idea that hit me while I was a player back in the day. On the subbing issue. I remember when I played varsity and 2nd stringers would come in at the end of the 2nd quarter, play until halftime and hold their own. I can remember the 2nd stringers coming in at the end of the 3rd quarter and playing the remainder of the game. I can remember the starters incentive to demoralize the other team early so that our fellow varsity players could get on the field and we could cheer them on from the sideline. TEAM! We still led the state in scoring that year. From our coaches standpoint, the more playing time the 2nd stringers got the better the underclassmen would be the following season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 13:07:40 GMT -5
cowtown, I'm sure you are aware things have changed a lot since those days and they are not going back. Plus the quarter limit was not always in affect.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 17, 2016 14:53:21 GMT -5
My understanding is that 50 regular season quarters are allowed. That means that a player could play all 10 full JV games and 10 additional varsity quarters. So they could play one quarter in every varsity game or any other combination.
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Post by stanley on Sept 17, 2016 15:08:33 GMT -5
I highly doubt OHSAA would punish anyone if a JV kid ended up violating the quarter rule due to mop op duty in order to not rub it in on teams. Can you imagine what that would lead to? Either teams putting up 100 on other teams, or a starting offense taking a knee for every play of the second half in some situations. That rule is in effect to prevent stupidity from happening... Examples: seniors and juniors that play varsity also starting on Saturdays, the freshman running back carrying the ball 20 times on Friday night, then again on Saturday morning, then again in a freshman game. Usually if a kid is only a freshman or sophomore and they play on only one side of the ball, it's usually ok for them to play the opposite side in a JV game. There's an example of what would break the quarter rule, but I doubt would be punished. OHSAA doesn't use common sense with a whole lot, but when it comes to this ruling they do.
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Post by presnapread on Sept 21, 2016 10:00:24 GMT -5
I will say this, at least our stadium doesnt smell like port o john urinal cakes. I would say that we got tired and should have substituted more but some other poster here implied that coaches always know better so.... yeah. moacfootballfan Out of curiosity, who's stadium smells "like port o John urinal cakes"?
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Post by brutus036 on Sept 21, 2016 11:05:27 GMT -5
Willard Stop taking the words right out of my Mouth. As soon as I read your reply I chuckled As I agree Clear Fork Is no Fairbanks and there is not a program in the MOAC that will compare to Alder maybe not even in the NOL. Shelby is Back and Bellevue is good but Alder is very good those would be better competition for a school like that then Galion and Fairbanks. I am sad to see Galion go back on hard times this fast and hope it doesnt result in a few horrible years where the kids won't want to come out for Football now that they have Soccer it could take a few of the skilled players away if they start winning and Football struggles. Happened at Ontario, Lexington just to name a few schools.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 21, 2016 13:51:32 GMT -5
I will say this, at least our stadium doesnt smell like port o john urinal cakes. I would say that we got tired and should have substituted more but some other poster here implied that coaches always know better so.... yeah. moacfootballfan Out of curiosity, who's stadium smells "like port o John urinal cakes"? Buckeye Valley
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 14:33:02 GMT -5
Lexington has normally been better at soccer than football as far as success, other than a few season when some really good football players went thru. But soccer was still good then.
From an outsider it looks like not only the enrollment is dropping for Galion but also the number of elite multiple sport athletes. Many areas
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Post by baseballdad on Sept 21, 2016 20:32:21 GMT -5
Way to stay classy moacfootball fan.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 21, 2016 21:10:45 GMT -5
Way to stay classy moacfootball fan. I made one comment back on Friday night, or Saturday as an observation part of my comment. Never brought it up again till I was asked a direct question about it. I apologize for the offense.
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Post by galion on Sept 21, 2016 21:28:17 GMT -5
Just like the guy on ESPN keeps saying "don't press send"
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 21, 2016 21:46:36 GMT -5
Urban says, "press pause" and think.
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Post by baseballdad on Sept 21, 2016 21:50:37 GMT -5
Yeah and I held my comment until your last post. I read it Friday night and recognized it for the immature sour grapes that it was.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 21, 2016 22:35:29 GMT -5
Willard Stop taking the words right out of my Mouth. As soon as I read your reply I chuckled As I agree Clear Fork Is no Fairbanks and there is not a program in the MOAC that will compare to Alder maybe not even in the NOL. Shelby is Back and Bellevue is good but Alder is very good those would be better competition for a school like that then Galion and Fairbanks. I am sad to see Galion go back on hard times this fast and hope it doesnt result in a few horrible years where the kids won't want to come out for Football now that they have Soccer it could take a few of the skilled players away if they start winning and Football struggles. Happened at Ontario, Lexington just to name a few schools. Alder is probably the best team in a combined MOAC/NOL this year, but most years the NOL had a team as good as or better than the best team in the MOAC. Alder is just passing through. They are but a speck in the history of the MOAC. Next year the MOAC will be completely different than the MOAC of the past and will never be similar again. Alder is gone after a pit stop. Another nine schools, most of them smaller, are gone. IMO, Harding's sports will improve playing smaller schools and winning more. Two backyard rivals to the East from the 1960's to the present will be joining. I hope the chatter on here stays as good as it has been this year. I'm wondering if the Morrow/Knox County league will have a forum on here? Ontario boys soccer was never this good until the last couple of years. More about a growing school district then kids leaving football for soccer. Not more than a few players over the years come to mind that could have been good football players. I realize soccer is a semi-contact sport, but most who choose to play soccer over football, I'm not sure they REALLY like to hit or be hit.
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 22, 2016 1:07:52 GMT -5
One of my co-workers said that's what happened to Orrville. They have more kids who go out for soccer now than football over there. Orrville used to be so dominate in football over there too.
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