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Post by don on Nov 30, 2022 2:57:48 GMT -5
What game are you most intrigued by this weekend?
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Nov 30, 2022 3:45:34 GMT -5
Marion Local vs Kirtland
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Post by don on Nov 30, 2022 9:24:00 GMT -5
doesn’t get any better than that. Should be a classic.
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Post by dump on Nov 30, 2022 11:14:04 GMT -5
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Post by jmorgret07 on Nov 30, 2022 11:29:05 GMT -5
1. Marion Local vs. Kirtland 2. Archbishop Hoban vs. Toledo Central Catholic 3. Cleveland Glenville vs. Cincinnati Wyoming 4. Ironton vs. Canfield South Range 5. New Bremen vs. Warren JFK 6. Lakewood St Edward vs. Springfield 7. Canfield vs. Bloom-Carroll
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Post by don on Nov 30, 2022 12:17:42 GMT -5
not disciplined enough to win in the upper divisions so ohsaa feels bad & rewards Ted Sr an easy path
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Post by dump on Nov 30, 2022 12:26:58 GMT -5
not disciplined enough to win in the upper divisions so ohsaa feels bad & rewards Ted Sr an easy path The forum ignorance strikes again. People just say anything on here. Glenville enrollment = 567 students Perkins enrollment = 578 students Steubenville = 627 students Cincinnati Wyoming = 648 students Go Tigers
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Post by don on Nov 30, 2022 12:37:49 GMT -5
not disciplined enough to win in the upper divisions so ohsaa feels bad & rewards Ted Sr an easy path The forum ignorance strikes again. People just say anything on here. Glenville enrollment = 567 students Perkins enrollment = 578 students Steubenville = 627 students Cincinnati Wyoming = 648 students Go Tigers shouldn’t you be concerned about what’s going on in Tiger land?
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Post by sbclives on Nov 30, 2022 13:03:42 GMT -5
not disciplined enough to win in the upper divisions so ohsaa feels bad & rewards Ted Sr an easy path The forum ignorance strikes again. People just say anything on here. Glenville enrollment = 567 students Perkins enrollment = 578 students Steubenville = 627 students Cincinnati Wyoming = 648 students Go Tigers Must be nice when you can get all the best players from the other Senate League schools and other surrounding schools and have an all star team while the schools they play have kids from their own backyards. Seems fair and equal.
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Post by dump on Nov 30, 2022 13:18:05 GMT -5
The forum ignorance strikes again. People just say anything on here. Glenville enrollment = 567 students Perkins enrollment = 578 students Steubenville = 627 students Cincinnati Wyoming = 648 students Go Tigers Must be nice when you can get all the best players from the other Senate League schools and other surrounding schools and have an all star team while the schools they play have kids from their own backyards. Seems fair and equal. Every school in the state can do the same thing. Look at Perkins plucking kids from Sandusky and Margeretta. You don't think Steubenville and Cincinnati Wyoming aren't doing the same thing? The post was meant to shine light on the wonderful impact Coach Ginn has had on inner city youth. The typical small-minded forumites use it as an excuse to hate. No surprise. Go Tigers
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Post by don on Nov 30, 2022 13:27:52 GMT -5
Must be nice when you can get all the best players from the other Senate League schools and other surrounding schools and have an all star team while the schools they play have kids from their own backyards. Seems fair and equal. Every school in the state can do the same thing. Look at Perkins plucking kids from Sandusky and Margeretta. You don't think Steubenville and Cincinnati Wyoming aren't doing the same thing? The post was meant to shine light on the wonderful impact Coach Ginn has had on inner city youth. The typical small-minded forumites use it as an excuse to hate. No surprise. Go Tigers front runner written all over this
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Post by sbclives on Nov 30, 2022 13:42:17 GMT -5
Must be nice when you can get all the best players from the other Senate League schools and other surrounding schools and have an all star team while the schools they play have kids from their own backyards. Seems fair and equal. Every school in the state can do the same thing. Look at Perkins plucking kids from Sandusky and Margeretta. You don't think Steubenville and Cincinnati Wyoming aren't doing the same thing? The post was meant to shine light on the wonderful impact Coach Ginn has had on inner city youth. The typical small-minded forumites use it as an excuse to hate. No surprise. Go Tigers Go Harvest Prep. Go Dayton Dunbar. Go All Star teams.
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Post by ronmexico on Nov 30, 2022 14:42:20 GMT -5
Competitive balance numbers tell a different story.
Tiffin - 19 Perkins - 16 Bellevue - 8 Clyde - 7 Sandusky - 4 Glenville - 0
Some of those studs for our SBC champs do not live in the township, and the same can be said for the second place team. Are we calling foul on that too? Dump has a point here.
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Post by sbclives on Nov 30, 2022 14:55:15 GMT -5
Competitive balance numbers tell a different story. Tiffin - 19 Perkins - 16 Bellevue - 8 Clyde - 7 Sandusky - 4 Glenville - 0 Some of those studs for our SBC champs do not live in the township, and the same can be said for the second place team. Are we calling foul on that too? Dump has a point here. 0? Isn’t the Glenville school district part of the Cleveland Metro school district which is huge. It covers pretty much all of Cleveland so kind of easy to say they have 0 in that coverage area.
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Post by don on Nov 30, 2022 15:07:02 GMT -5
the number 0 for competitive balance for Glenville is misconstrued
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Post by ronmexico on Nov 30, 2022 15:17:57 GMT -5
Point being that the top schools in the SBC have the largest competitive balance numbers. Knowing who those kids are, I don't believe we (Perkins) win the SBC without them. A lot of schools are guilty of this.
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Post by dump on Nov 30, 2022 15:18:12 GMT -5
Cleveland.com ran another article today, talking about how 15 or 16 of these kids for Glenville have played together since they were 10 years old. They won multiple national tournaments playing at the youth level. So to act like this is some sort of all start team pulled from all over north east ohio is sort of laughable. This is much more organic than the recruiting efforts you see from St. Ed's/Ignatius/Hoban. A lot of these kids were born and raised together in the same neighborhood, just like our local schools. I understand it's easier to be a hater, but these kids and their coaches deserve credit.
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Post by dump on Nov 30, 2022 15:22:16 GMT -5
Point being that the top schools in the SBC have the largest competitive balance numbers. Knowing who those kids are, I don't believe we (Perkins) win the SBC without them. A lot of schools are guilty of this. Thank you. Just because Glenville is much more talented doesn't make them any more guilty than Perkins. They do the same things. Why would a kid from Cleveland go be 0-10 at Collinwood High School when they could travel the same distance to school and play on a good team at Glenville. Same thought goes to a kid from Margaretta. I don't blame that kid for wanting to play for Perkins and play on a better team. I have no problem with this. It's just funny how people have a problem if it's a team from the inner-city and not a team from the SBC. Go Tigers
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Post by don on Nov 30, 2022 15:37:08 GMT -5
Point being that the top schools in the SBC have the largest competitive balance numbers. Knowing who those kids are, I don't believe we (Perkins) win the SBC without them. A lot of schools are guilty of this. Thank you. Just because Glenville is much more talented doesn't make them any more guilty than Perkins. They do the same things. Why would a kid from Cleveland go be 0-10 at Collinwood High School when they could travel the same distance to school and play on a good team at Glenville. Same thought goes to a kid from Margaretta. I don't blame that kid for wanting to play for Perkins and play on a better team. I have no problem with this. It's just funny how people have a problem if it's a team from the inner-city and not a team from the SBC. Go Tigers instead of saying Go Tigers at the end, it should be Go Tarblooders from now on
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Post by sbclives on Nov 30, 2022 16:07:54 GMT -5
Point being that the top schools in the SBC have the largest competitive balance numbers. Knowing who those kids are, I don't believe we (Perkins) win the SBC without them. A lot of schools are guilty of this. Thank you. Just because Glenville is much more talented doesn't make them any more guilty than Perkins. They do the same things. Why would a kid from Cleveland go be 0-10 at Collinwood High School when they could travel the same distance to school and play on a good team at Glenville. Same thought goes to a kid from Margaretta. I don't blame that kid for wanting to play for Perkins and play on a better team. I have no problem with this. It's just funny how people have a problem if it's a team from the inner-city and not a team from the SBC. Go Tigers Don’t say go Tigers anymore. It’s obvious you’ve hitched your wagon up to the Tarblooder bandwagon. I also find it funny that Perkins and Sandusky would never merge schools but parents have no problem sending their kids to the other school if it’s beneficial for sports. It’s amazing how sports determines a lot choices that are made.
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Post by don on Nov 30, 2022 17:45:05 GMT -5
Thank you. Just because Glenville is much more talented doesn't make them any more guilty than Perkins. They do the same things. Why would a kid from Cleveland go be 0-10 at Collinwood High School when they could travel the same distance to school and play on a good team at Glenville. Same thought goes to a kid from Margaretta. I don't blame that kid for wanting to play for Perkins and play on a better team. I have no problem with this. It's just funny how people have a problem if it's a team from the inner-city and not a team from the SBC. Go Tigers Don’t say go Tigers anymore. It’s obvious you’ve hitched your wagon up to the Tarblooder bandwagon. I also find it funny that Perkins and Sandusky would never merge schools but parents have no problem sending their kids to the other school if it’s beneficial for sports. It’s amazing how sports determines a lot choices that are made. Sportsvideo will get butthurt if he stops saying Go Tigers
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Post by sbclives on Nov 30, 2022 19:15:55 GMT -5
Don’t say go Tigers anymore. It’s obvious you’ve hitched your wagon up to the Tarblooder bandwagon. I also find it funny that Perkins and Sandusky would never merge schools but parents have no problem sending their kids to the other school if it’s beneficial for sports. It’s amazing how sports determines a lot choices that are made. Sportsvideo will get butthurt if he stops saying Go Tigers Truth is that dump hasn’t learned to spell Tygers as in being a Mansfield Sr. fan.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 30, 2022 23:37:02 GMT -5
You guys are all barking up the wrong tree. Clueless per usual.
10 years ago Glenville was in DI. This year they are in DIV, with the likes of Galion and Upper. Splain that!
In Glenville's storied history they've never won a State Title. Now that Ginn the Senior is on his last legs. Glenville has gotten themselves down into a Division where they might be able to finally win one. By weeding out the chaff
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Post by don on Dec 1, 2022 2:59:31 GMT -5
You guys are all barking up the wrong tree. Clueless per usual. 10 years ago Glenville was in DI. This year they are in DIV, with the likes of Galion and Upper. Splain that! In Glenville's storied history they've never won a State Title. Now that Ginn the Senior is on his last legs. Glenville has gotten themselves down into a Division where they might be able to finally win one. By weeding out the chaff Willard you’ve always been outdated.
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Post by ronmexico on Dec 1, 2022 6:12:25 GMT -5
Glenville's 200 male enrollment drop in 10 years is a result of several factors, but it's not because of Ted Ginn Sr. Not sure if you are sure of how open enrollment works with Cleveland Public Schools (CMSD). Glenville's leaders are not going to take that reduction in funding for a good football team.
At the end of the day, Ginn Sr. has and does good things for kids on the east side of Cleveland regardless if they play football or not. Clueless I am not sir.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2022 8:34:52 GMT -5
Fox 8 News (Cleveland) is reporting that Glenville High School is Closed today, Due to Illness.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2022 9:03:05 GMT -5
Glenville's 200 male enrollment drop in 10 years is a result of several factors, but it's not because of Ted Ginn Sr. Not sure if you are sure of how open enrollment works with Cleveland Public Schools (CMSD). Glenville's leaders are not going to take that reduction in funding for a good football team. At the end of the day, Ginn Sr. has and does good things for kids on the east side of Cleveland regardless if they play football or not. Clueless I am not sir. Where did I say that it was because of Ted Ginn Sr??? I am WELL aware of how Ohio's Open Enrollment Program works. I am certain more so than you. As the Ontario School District gets about $1.5 million annually from Open Enrollment students. I know THE single factor for the reason it happens and it's not football. Who are Glenville's leaders? PLEASE, enlighten us on the "several factors", that only occurred in the past 10 years and not the previous 20. What are all the "good things" Glnn Sr does on a yearly basis for the 10's of thousands of kids on the East side of Cleveland that don't play football? Do you live on the East side?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2022 9:23:24 GMT -5
You guys are all barking up the wrong tree. Clueless per usual. 10 years ago Glenville was in DI. This year they are in DIV, with the likes of Galion and Upper. Splain that! In Glenville's storied history they've never won a State Title. Now that Ginn the Senior is on his last legs. Glenville has gotten themselves down into a Division where they might be able to finally win one. By weeding out the chaff Willard you’ve always been outdated. So outdated, that no one has broached this subject which has occurred in recent history?
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Post by ronmexico on Dec 1, 2022 9:27:56 GMT -5
Ontario is one district with one high school. Cleveland allows for movement within the district with approximately 30 high schools. It's quite different compared to how traditional open enrollment works around the state. Kids can ride RTA in the morning for free to get to a school across town. They have partnered with charter schools unlike many other districts around the state. Many kids have left the district to attend an online institution.
Do kids go to Glenville to play football, absolutely!
If you want names of the leaders at Glenville, you are right I don't have them. Yet I am confident that no school leaders enjoy seeing their enrollment cut in half especially when that is tied to funding.
Do a little investigation on how the Ginn Academy functions. There is more discipline in that building then most high schools in Richland County.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2022 10:14:46 GMT -5
Ontario is one district with one high school. Cleveland allows for movement within the district with approximately 30 high schools. It's quite different compared to how traditional open enrollment works around the state. Kids can ride RTA in the morning for free to get to a school across town. They have partnered with charter schools unlike many other districts around the state. Many kids have left the district to attend an online institution. Do kids go to Glenville to play football, absolutely! If you want names of the leaders at Glenville, you are right I don't have them. Yet I am confident that no school leaders enjoy seeing their enrollment cut in half especially when that is tied to funding. EXACTLY, I was waiting for the mention of what the OHSAA calls intra-district transfers. BUT, it is not about what Cleveland allows, it is about what the OHSAA Bylaws allow as far as intra-district movement and how it affects eligibility for high school sports. AND because of intra-district transferring, Glenville's Competitive Balance Adder is ZERO. Ontario's Competitive Balance Adder for football is 19 which moved them into Division III this year, one Division higher than Glenville's and NO ONE transfers to Ontario to play football.
The OHSAA calls "traditional" open enrollment, inter-district transfers.
If a student "attends an online institution" he/she is still eligible to play sports in the school district they reside in.
Why would such a great educational institution like Glenville see their enrollment cut in half, which caused them to drop from DI to DIV in 10 years?? AGAIN, what are the "several factors" that caused this sudden drop in enrollment?
BTW, since Glenville is in the Cleveland school district, the vast majority of their "funding" comes from the Cleveland school district, which gets a MASSIVE amount of money from the State.
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