Week 3: Portsmouth (0) at Galion (23)

[GHS 1999]

On to week 3 we go. The 1-1 Portsmouth Trojans make their first (and hopefully only) trip to Heise Park to face the 2-0 Galion Tigers. The Trojans defeated Lucasville Valley 35-7 in week 1 and lost last night 32-14 at Portsmouth West. The Tigers won 34-0 at Bucyrus in week 1 and 44-21 vs Cardington last night. Does anyone know anything about Portsmouth? Thoughts on this one.....

[gtigers]

Watched some highlights of Portsmouth on MaxPreps, against Lucasville, they have size, good QB, good RB. I think we have more speed. The team they played looked really bad and very slow.

[moacfootballfan]

Don't know much more about them but it would be a solid win for a team that we still don't know if they're for real or not. At least I don't.

I'm still not sure if this shows us or not since the team Portsmouth beat was 0-2. Lucasville Valley could be the Ridgedale or Bucyrus of their area.

We won't start getting any valid info about the relative strength or weakness of the Galion team until league play in my opinion.

Secondly, I'm glad it's a home game. That would be a miserably drive.

[BellevueBuckeye]

Here's the thread for this game on another regional sports forum: southeasternohiopreps.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7227

There's not a lot of insight as to what to expect for the game, but some of you may find it an interesting read regarding the state of the Portsmouth program and why this game got scheduled. As someone who is familiar with Scioto County I was intrigued when I saw this game on Galion's schedule, and then pretty surprised to learn the reason Portsmouth had this opening was because they dropped Wheelersburg.

[hardingmavman]

Sept 6, 2017 6:32:44 GMT -5 moacfootballfan said:

Don't know much more about them but it would be a solid win for a team that we still don't know if they're for real or not. At least I don't.

I'm still not sure if this shows us or not since the team Portsmouth beat was 0-2. Lucasville Valley could be the Ridgedale or Bucyrus of their area.

We won't start getting any valid info about the relative strength or weakness of the Galion team until league play in my opinion.

Secondly, I'm glad it's a home game. That would be a miserably drive.

How do u think they feel lol

[galiontiger]

I'm going to make the drive and come see Galion play tomorrow night. What the hell? It's only a 45 minutes drive to Galion now for me, and I have to get up at either 0215 or 0315 Saturday morning for work. I love football and probably won't get to see many more. GO TIGERS!!

[moacfootballfan]

Sept 6, 2017 22:05:10 GMT -5 hardingmavman said:

Sept 6, 2017 6:32:44 GMT -5 moacfootballfan said:

Don't know much more about them but it would be a solid win for a team that we still don't know if they're for real or not. At least I don't.

I'm still not sure if this shows us or not since the team Portsmouth beat was 0-2. Lucasville Valley could be the Ridgedale or Bucyrus of their area.

We won't start getting any valid info about the relative strength or weakness of the Galion team until league play in my opinion.

Secondly, I'm glad it's a home game. That would be a miserably drive.

How do u think they feel lol

Probably depends on if they win or lose.

Celebrating a win with a long drive home would be good thing.  3 hr drive after a loss would be like a funeral procession.

[greenman]

I don't think many of those boys would think a three-hour drive is good at all. Boys know what a win could mean post-game.

[moacfootballfan]

Galion 9-0 at half. Pretty slow start but we cant complain about a lead.

[moacfootballfan]

Final 23-0 Galion

[galion]

Not a pretty game, particularly penalty wise, but I'm not going to complain about 3-0. There were times I thought we might be able to win a few MOAC games and there were time I thought we might not even win this game. It's going to be an interesting rest of the season.

[GHS 1999]

Here's my take on the game. Portsmouth was definitely bigger than Galion but Galion definitely played much better on the lines. They were able to get a rush on their quarterback #14 and opened up plenty of holes for our running game. Our passing game wasn't pretty at times but we completed some nice passes as well. Portsmouth's biggest issue imo was sloppy play. Way too many penalties that really killed drives for them. They turned the ball overa bit much as well. All in all it wasn't pretty, but a win is a win. The Tigers may have a tough time in MOAC play but I think they will keep their games interesting and hopefully can win some as well!

[Willard Fillmore]

What a difference a year makes

[7up]

Wow Galion 3-0 with a WR at QB and couldn't win with their over hyped QB last year

[gtab]

Sept 9, 2017 14:27:28 GMT -5 7up said:

Wow Galion 3-0 with a WR at QB and couldn't win with their over hyped QB last year

I'm not going to "bite".

[pirate80]

Sept 9, 2017 14:27:28 GMT -5 7up said:

Wow Galion 3-0 with a WR at QB and couldn't win with their over hyped QB last year

Not really fair to make that statement, when he tore up his knee in week 2...

[galiontiger]

Sept 9, 2017 14:27:28 GMT -5 7up said:

Wow Galion 3-0 with a WR at QB and couldn't win with their over hyped QB last year

I'll bite...LOL The team is totally different this year. If they had Chase healthy this year with the way this team is playing...Man! Would Galion be tough.  You forgot my son got hurt in the second game of the season...blew out his PCL and the doctor told me initially he would never play again...not season-ending but career-ending. No lie. BUT I guess you forgot "THE BIGGEST FACTOR" from last year and this year is.... Last year any of those plays against Portsmouth where you see the quarterback hand off to the running back would have been 80 yard untouched runs for touchdowns. This year they are no gains or losses with like 3 Galion players tackling the running back. I've NEVER...EVER seen a team turn around a defense like Galion has this year....EVER with basically the same kids on defense. Our defense was atrocious last year, soooo painful to watch for me.  This year's defense is faaaassssttt and get off the line quickly. We had 2 interceptions too against Portsmouth. I don't know what the count is for this year, but we have to have like 6 or more interceptions for the year already.

On the quarterback from what I saw last Friday, I LOVE..LOVE Harrison Ivy. Great kid! He's just not a quarterback..running quarterback..Hell Yes! A true quarterback...no way! He missed 2 open receiver for touchdowns Friday. The game shouldn't have been that close honestly.  And basically just threw up 3 floaters that were a "Please someone catch this!" pass.  One was almost a touchdown amazingly..the other should have been picked off. The last one was like a hail mary on like second down that ended up on the 30-yard line in the 3rd quarter. LOL  Does he run the offense very well? He's a GREAT leader. I like what I see. He just has to work on his passing motions. He's super fast and with him and Tanner running they are difficult to defended. You know what team, Galion reminds me of from two years ago? Edison..the team that beat us in the playoffs and went far.

This Galion team has speed all around. They will compete in the MOAC. Their speed will keep them in games. I'm extremely concerned that they can not spread the field out with their passing game. You can only throw so many dump passes out in the flats. A good run defensive team will give them a lot of trouble. They are doing fabulous so far against weak teams..but they are also not giving up any points, which attest to their fast defense. A LOT of people will be pleasantly surprised with them once they start traveling to visiting MOAC stadiums. You are going to see a very..very fast defense with gang tackling. You won't believe your eyes considering last year. Who ever is to credit for this turn-around..Coach Dick or someone else...man! They have done a fabulous job so far. 3 and 0, I would have never believed it.

[moacfootballfan]

I'll bite too.

I honestly believe that if Chase was the quarterback, we would not be as good as we are this year (which I'm not convinced is that great at this point)

Chase is nowhere near as fast as Ivy so any of those quarterback runs (which there have been a lot of) wouldn't have been as productive as they are with Ivy.

We had Chase at quarterback with the Crisman's and Ivy at receiver last year and nothing that great really happened.

Not knocking Chase, but the whole team chemistry is better this year.

[galiontiger]

My point is mute anyway...Harrison isn't really a quarterback; he's a running back. So what you have is a scrambling quarterback with another lights-out fast running back. You are right both were receivers last year. Harrison was coming off an injury too and got hurt during the season. I see you failed to mention that. I think it was Tanner's first year at wide receiver last year too. I think you failed to mention that also..now he's our star running back. Did you even go to any of the games last year? Who says Harrison couldn't be productive as a running back? Isn't that basically what he is now about 90% of the time? My point is with a throwing quarterback under center you could really stretch the field out even more. Harrison might be able to do that too, if he could develop a better throwing motion. He pushes the ball out. At times it does not look pretty, especially when pressured. You are right Chase is no where near as fast as Harrison. Harrison is a track guy. In this offense, you would just feed the ball to Harrison or Tanner out of the backfield. No different than 2 years ago with Barnett and Fryer, right? We went to the playoffs this year. I actually see this team "almost" on the same level as that team. Call me crazy, but I see it...without the quarterback when you start playing good teams though.  We have all the weapons that team has, just a little more inexperienced right now. We had a bigger line back then, but Edison had a way smaller line than we did, and we couldn't stop their run game at all. This team is starting to show; they honestly might have a better defense than ours did during that playoff run.

But you are right they have much more chemistry this year, they started together and are still healthy together. They didn't lose Harrison the second game of the season when they were 1-0. Harrison is a great leader! The difference this year is play-makers at their positions..running back..but THE MOST IMPORTANT turn around though is the defense. Who ever is responsible for that has done an AMAZING JOB. We always knew Tanner and Harrison were track stars and if given the opportunity would be stars. I believe in those two kids. BUT the gang tackling, hard hits and pressure on the quarterback is so UNBELIEVABLY better this year. I just can't understand how they learned to tackle and hit in one off-season. It was every other run last year was a touchdown for the other team, and then by the third quarter all their subs were in for the other team. I'm in total shock!!! LOL

[galiontiger]

Sept 10, 2017 17:46:20 GMT -5 moacfootballfan said:

I'll bite too.

I honestly believe that if Chase was the quarterback, we would not be as good as we are this year (which I'm not convinced is that great at this point)

Chase is nowhere near as fast as Ivy so any of those quarterback runs (which there have been a lot of) wouldn't have been as productive as they are with Ivy.

We had Chase at quarterback with the Crisman's and Ivy at receiver last year and nothing that great really happened.

Not knocking Chase, but the whole team chemistry is better this year.

It still gets me that some of you talk so much crap about my son still, and he got hurt last year with a new coach and basically a new team. The guy earlier said "over-hyped", but he didn't seem over-hyped his junior year when he played in 9 games for Galion (coming in from an 0-7 Division 7 team) and didn't throw one interception (the top 5 MOAC Quarterbacks had on average of 9 interceptions during the season), AND he "helped" our team put up 38 points against River Valley, 70 points against Fairbanks, 62 points against North Union and 42 points against Pleasant. We had a GREAT team that year with...oooh wait for it...GREAT chemistry.  We just shouldn't have let Edison run all over us like they did in that game. That game was a one score game in the middle of the 3rd quarter. Just curious when was the last playoff game Galion had where it was that close in the 3rd period? I'll wait for that answer.........Ok I got to wash some clothes...let me answer that I couldn't find a game where it was that close. (We put up 28 points against Edison in that game. Only 3 other teams put up more points on Edison than we did in all 14 games of their season.) Last playoff games for Galion:  Triway 38 -7, Kenton 58-14 and North Union 33-13. So my over hyped son at QB "helped" his team score more points in the last decade than any other Galion QB could do in a playoff game and help keep them in the game to give them a chance to win, but he's over-hyped? That doesn't sit well with me.  Now he gets hurt in the second game of his senior season, and he is over-hyped. Whoever believes that can go.....well you know where I'm going with this. haha!

[greenman]

Yeah, galiontiger, moacfootballfan dangled that out there and you bit hard. I understand, but I can't imagine what he knows about the team's chemistry unless he has an uninterested observer in the locker room. That's a piece of the puzzle the public doesn't see at all and rarely hears much about. Meaningless sniping at what he saw as an easy target.

[moacfootballfan]

Sept 10, 2017 19:32:34 GMT -5 greenman said:

Yeah, galiontiger, moacfootballfan dangled that out there and you bit hard. I understand, but I can't imagine what he knows about the team's chemistry unless he has an uninterested observer in the locker room. That's a piece of the puzzle the public doesn't see at all and rarely hears much about. Meaningless sniping at what he saw as an easy target.

I didn't really dangle anything out there except my honest opinion of the team.  As I said in the post that was quoted, "Not knocking on Chase" but apparently an objective observation is a trigger.

I wasn't the one that said that Chase was an "overhyped" quarterback.  That was O2.

AND, I have always supported galiontiger's right to talk directly about his son on here.

Seems I am the whipping boy for someone else's comment.

And yes, I did go to games last year.  As a matter of fact, every single varsity and junior varsity game last year.

I have also watched this years' seniors play every game since 3rd grade.

Harrison may not be a "true quarterback" per your definition, but he has played quarterback many of those years.  I don't think anyone would've thought that D. Watkins was a "true quarterback" either but he played the role.

Tanner is not really a true running back either, but he is probably the best we have for that position right now with regard to speed.  We do have that back last week that really looked good as a power back though.

[4]

Watched a couple galion games the Barnett senior year. And it was nothing but the Barnett show not sure what they would've done without him on O and D. But I will admit those were some big lines galion had that year.

[greenman]

Sept 10, 2017 22:47:24 GMT -5 moacfootballfan said:

Sept 10, 2017 19:32:34 GMT -5 greenman said:

Yeah, galiontiger, moacfootballfan dangled that out there and you bit hard. I understand, but I can't imagine what he knows about the team's chemistry unless he has an uninterested observer in the locker room. That's a piece of the puzzle the public doesn't see at all and rarely hears much about. Meaningless sniping at what he saw as an easy target.

I didn't really dangle anything out there except my honest opinion of the team.  As I said in the post that was quoted, "Not knocking on Chase" but apparently an objective observation is a trigger.

I wasn't the one that said that Chase was an "overhyped" quarterback.  That was O2.

AND, I have always supported galiontiger's right to talk directly about his son on here.

Seems I am the whipping boy for someone else's comment.

And yes, I did go to games last year.  As a matter of fact, every single varsity and junior varsity game last year.

I have also watched this years' seniors play every game since 3rd grade.

Harrison may not be a "true quarterback" per your definition, but he has played quarterback many of those years.  I don't think anyone would've thought that D. Watkins was a "true quarterback" either but he played the role.

Tanner is not really a true running back either, but he is probably the best we have for that position right now with regard to speed.  We do have that back last week that really looked good as a power back though.

True, you really didn't get the dig in as O2 did. Apologies. Second time I've misdirected like that this week - I need to stop skipping my meds.

[moacfootballfan]

Sept 11, 2017 11:28:52 GMT -5 greenman said:

Sept 10, 2017 22:47:24 GMT -5 moacfootballfan said:

I didn't really dangle anything out there except my honest opinion of the team.  As I said in the post that was quoted, "Not knocking on Chase" but apparently an objective observation is a trigger.

I wasn't the one that said that Chase was an "overhyped" quarterback.  That was O2.

AND, I have always supported galiontiger's right to talk directly about his son on here.

Seems I am the whipping boy for someone else's comment.

And yes, I did go to games last year.  As a matter of fact, every single varsity and junior varsity game last year.

I have also watched this years' seniors play every game since 3rd grade.

Harrison may not be a "true quarterback" per your definition, but he has played quarterback many of those years.  I don't think anyone would've thought that D. Watkins was a "true quarterback" either but he played the role.

Tanner is not really a true running back either, but he is probably the best we have for that position right now with regard to speed.  We do have that back last week that really looked good as a power back though.

True, you really didn't get the dig in as O2 did. Apologies. Second time I've misdirected like that this week - I need to stop skipping my meds.

Accepted.  You're going to make Galiontiger put the war paint on and hunt me down

[greenman]

Sept 11, 2017 12:24:46 GMT -5 moacfootballfan said:

Sept 11, 2017 11:28:52 GMT -5 greenman said:

True, you really didn't get the dig in as O2 did. Apologies. Second time I've misdirected like that this week - I need to stop skipping my meds.

Accepted.  You're going to make Galiontiger put the war paint on and hunt me down

What I really need, along with my meds, is 21-year old Redbreast. Just leave the bottle.

[7up]

OK Galiontiger I shouldn't of worded it over rated what I should have said was that's all I heard going into last season was Chase this Chase that then I go to the harding game and wasn't impressed yes he had a rocket arm but was not accurate so I again apologize I tend to get on here and shoot off but I'm human I don't have any kids but watch a lot of football and from what I read I was thinking he was going to light up the field so bad use of the word that's all

[galiontiger]

I'll accept that....O2. I was sooo disappointed on how last season went. That injury killed Chase for the year, but honestly with the way everything seemed to be in a disarray; it probably wouldn't have mattered.

MOAC... I agree you were supportive of my mouth last year. lol But you can't type that paragraph and a father not take it as slight, because it's all opinions. Saying someone wouldn't be as productive as another player who is not even on the same team now, and with the defense they have this year compared to last year. Tanner might not be a true running back, but isn't he the 3rd leading running back in the MOAC right now?? He blast thru the holes; he's due soon for some pretty big runs. That kid is straight up fast!

..and to AllDistrict...Barnett was a beast 2 years ago. He carried the team most definitely, but if you don't think his season wasn't helped by Chase as the quarterback, I might have to send you back to watching 7th grade games. LOL . .......I'll give you an example. When our season would have been lost if we lost to River Valley, the game was televised. I taped it and watched it later. The announcer was saying how Barnett wasn't getting any big runs and River Valley was doing a good job containing him "to some degree" in the first half. If you remember Coach Hawkins kept starting Jacob Fryer as QB at that point. Fryer was having a rough first half. He threw a costly interception.  My son came at the end of the 2nd quarter and led them to a touchdown to Fryer with just a few seconds on the clock. The game had almost gotten away from us. In the 2nd half, they kept Chase in and him and Barnett went off, especially Barnett. The games after that were blowouts, because Coach Hawkins finally allowed Chase to throw down field. One of the announcers at the end of the game said, "When Chase Cooke entered the game, it changed everything, because he can spread out the defense. River Valley knew he can throw downfield. This allowed Barnett running room, and he ran for big yards....." AND he continued to have his biggest games after that game too.

I won't slight Barnett, because the kid is AMAZING. (I haven't heard why he isn't on the Findlay team now though. I checked their roster, I didn't see his name. Maybe I'm mistaken..don't know.) He had a record setting year. But I've always believe, as I do this year with Galion, if you have a quarterback who can throw the football downfield (AND you use him correctly), it will open up any run game. The linebackers can't cheat up to the line to take away the run. My son threw for over 1100 yards that year in 9 games. He wasn't even the starting quarterback for like the first 4 or 5 games. He knew nobody on the Galion Tiger Team before the season started. AND after their 4th (Buckeye Valley) and 5th (Jonathan Alder) game which they lost and were on the verge of being eliminated from the playoffs with another loss (like the first time in 4 years), some of his teammates wanted to run him out of town. No lie! It was a little stressful. LOL But Coach Hawkins opened up the passing game finally and the offense started putting up BIG numbers against teams at the end of the season. I will say this I never understood why the passing offense downfield didn't revolve around Colton Moore. The kid was 6'4" and could jump, and he had great hands. In our 7-on-7's, Chase and him had great chemistry. They went off on a couple of teams. Once the season started, very few pass plays went to Colton. I never understood why. I heard a couple of rumors on why, but rumors are rumors.

I respect everyone's opinion. Most are you are just dead wrong, but I still love you...no war paint for now. But I started to unscrew the top of it. LOL I love talking football, but usually it's about my son, because I haven't been in this area enough to talk about other kids. Now I'm gone for good, but still want to take in a couple more Galion games if I can. I know this...no damn away games, unless its the Ontario one.

[galion]

Barnett transferred to another school to run track. Seina heights in Adrian, Mich I believe.

[Deleted]

I'll just toss this out there. Great players do not go 0-7 at D7 schools.