Week 8: Huron (40) @ Vermilion (28)

[hteam]

Huron wins the Win Oar Classic  again. 
Keeping the Oar in Huron for since 1966 !

Huron lead in this game 40-14 with 2 minutes to go
JV had been in the game since the 8 minute mark for Huron

Tigers JV scored the last Tiger touchdown.

on the kickoff  Vermilion has it at about midfield
They elect to stay with their starters

they throw a long pass for a touchdown and kick the 
extra point  with about 1:20 to go its now 40-21

Vermilion onside kicks and recovers.
Again the starters are in the game for Vermlion

they throw another long touchdown pass  its now 40-28
with just over a minute to go.

Huron puts their first team back in  as Vermlion again onside kicks.

Huron this time recovers and runs out the final minute.


There was about 20 Vermilion kids who never played a down in this football game.

Vermilion also Cancelled the freshman game  Im told against Huron.

 They wonder why their program has problems. 

 Sailors your new coach is a Douche Bag 

Totally Classless  

[mcm1019]

So you're mad that the jv team couldn't stop long touchdown passes, which makes the other team's coach a douche? Got it.

[Deleted]

Typical Huron fan. Has to ***** even after winning. I would've say that's no class also

[birchbarlow]

Oct 13, 2017 21:56:06 GMT -5 hteam said:

Huron wins the Win Oar Classic  again. 
Keeping the Oar in Huron for since 1966 !

Huron lead in this game 40-14 with 2 minutes to go
JV had been in the game since the 8 minute mark for Huron

Tigers JV scored the last Tiger touchdown.

on the kickoff  Vermilion has it at about midfield
They elect to stay with their starters

they throw a long pass for a touchdown and kick the 
extra point  with about 1:20 to go its now 40-21

Vermilion onside kicks and recovers.
Again the starters are in the game for Vermlion

they throw another long touchdown pass  its now 40-28
with just over a minute to go.

Huron puts their first team back in  as Vermlion again onside kicks.

Huron this time recovers and runs out the final minute.


There was about 20 Vermilion kids who never played a down in this football game.

Vermilion also Cancelled the freshman game  Im told against Huron.

 They wonder why their program has problems. 

 Sailors your new coach is a Douche Bag 

Totally Classless  

It was homecoming. 

Coach trying to instill a never give up mentality

Nobody made Huron put the JVs in.

Game was close at half time

You build a program with success, 5 wins is a start. Numbers will come. 

You have no idea who our coach is.

Classless would be running up the score not trying to stay in a game.

So he should have put in our underclassmen so your JV could score on them too?

Did you consider the reason the JV game was cancelled? Vermilion had some varsity player out with injuries and had to bring up some guys to play on Friday night that usually play Saturday morning. 

Get a clue man. You  Huron won the game. Congrats. Focus on you, let us worry about us.

[litebrite]

Huron still fighting for a playoff spot. Will need to win out.

[hteam]

Oct 14, 2017 8:00:47 GMT -5 birchbarlow said:

Oct 13, 2017 21:56:06 GMT -5 hteam said:

Huron wins the Win Oar Classic  again. 
Keeping the Oar in Huron for since 1966 !

Huron lead in this game 40-14 with 2 minutes to go
JV had been in the game since the 8 minute mark for Huron

Tigers JV scored the last Tiger touchdown.

on the kickoff  Vermilion has it at about midfield
They elect to stay with their starters

they throw a long pass for a touchdown and kick the 
extra point  with about 1:20 to go its now 40-21

Vermilion onside kicks and recovers.
Again the starters are in the game for Vermlion

they throw another long touchdown pass  its now 40-28
with just over a minute to go.

Huron puts their first team back in  as Vermlion again onside kicks.

Huron this time recovers and runs out the final minute.


There was about 20 Vermilion kids who never played a down in this football game.

Vermilion also Cancelled the freshman game  Im told against Huron.

 They wonder why their program has problems. 

 Sailors your new coach is a Douche Bag 

Totally Classless  

It was homecoming. 

Coach trying to instill a never give up mentality

Nobody made Huron put the JVs in.

Game was close at half time

You build a program with success, 5 wins is a start. Numbers will come. 

You have no idea who our coach is.

Classless would be running up the score not trying to stay in a game.

So he should have put in our underclassmen so your JV could score on them too?

Did you consider the reason the JV game was cancelled? Vermilion had some varsity player out with injuries and had to bring up some guys to play on Friday night that usually play Saturday morning. 

Get a clue man. You  Huron won the game. Congrats. Focus on you, let us worry about us.

 Onside kicking and leaving your ones in- not letting your subs play builds a team?  So next time Huron should leave there starters in until you sub your jv in? is that how it works?

[piratefan]

Oct 14, 2017 11:01:30 GMT -5 hteam said:

Oct 14, 2017 8:00:47 GMT -5 birchbarlow said:

It was homecoming. 

Coach trying to instill a never give up mentality

Nobody made Huron put the JVs in.

Game was close at half time

You build a program with success, 5 wins is a start. Numbers will come. 

You have no idea who our coach is.

Classless would be running up the score not trying to stay in a game.

So he should have put in our underclassmen so your JV could score on them too?

Did you consider the reason the JV game was cancelled? Vermilion had some varsity player out with injuries and had to bring up some guys to play on Friday night that usually play Saturday morning. 

Get a clue man. You  Huron won the game. Congrats. Focus on you, let us worry about us.

 Onside kicking and leaving your ones in- not letting your subs play builds a team?  So next time Huron should leave there starters in until you sub your jv in? is that how it works?

Fans like you are the reason people in the SBC don't care for Huron. It's not the team, it's the fans. Arrogant, most of them.

[birchbarlow]

Oct 14, 2017 11:01:30 GMT -5 hteam said:

Oct 14, 2017 8:00:47 GMT -5 birchbarlow said:

It was homecoming. 

Coach trying to instill a never give up mentality

Nobody made Huron put the JVs in.

Game was close at half time

You build a program with success, 5 wins is a start. Numbers will come. 

You have no idea who our coach is.

Classless would be running up the score not trying to stay in a game.

So he should have put in our underclassmen so your JV could score on them too?

Did you consider the reason the JV game was cancelled? Vermilion had some varsity player out with injuries and had to bring up some guys to play on Friday night that usually play Saturday morning. 

Get a clue man. You  Huron won the game. Congrats. Focus on you, let us worry about us.

 Onside kicking and leaving your ones in- not letting your subs play builds a team?  So next time Huron should leave there starters in until you sub your jv in? is that how it works?

Onside kicking when your winning is a Douche move, not onside kicking when you are down, isnt that what the onside kick is for? Just because one team puts their JV in doesn't mean the other team has to. It wasnt a running clock mercy rule situation. It was a varsity football game if I am not mistaken.
Next time how about you stop whining when you win?

[fanofthegame]

I don't have a dog in this fight. It's an unspoken rule. When the team that is up big puts their twos in the team that's losing should do the same. How does scoring against another team's two make you better?

[birchbarlow]

Is it also a unwritten rule that when you are down 26 with 8 minutes left that you have to surrender? Look, if you are losing you have every right to keep your varsity on the field. It wasn't a running clock. Ive seen posters on this site complain about the running clock rule because you are taking playing time away from players who only have so many games. So why would our coach take plays away from Seniors during their homecoming?

Furthermore, Vermilion has been on the wrong side of a blowout many times over the last....10+ years. Played lots of JV players, had running clock at halftime vs. Breck Turner JVs played almost the whole half (which wasn't even a rule back then). Didnt do much for us. Still went 2-8 the next couple of years.

So dont tell me thats how you get better. If that were the case Vermilion would be a state powerhouse by now.

[sportsvideo]

Hteamer. Just quit the drama! Put in hands team recover the damn kickoff and games over. It really isn't that big a deal.

[Willard Fillmore]

newbie hteam is worse than a dump, maybe he is a dump.

[dump]

I don't think there is anything wrong with what Vermillion did. Why should a team ever stop trying to win the game? I am not an entitled Huron fan like H Team. I am a student. I support the Tigers. I smoke pot. Also, I am ready for basketball.

As for football, I hope the Tigers can win out and get back in the playoffs where they belong.

Willard- stop comparing me to other users. You should know I am one of a kind.

GO Tigers.

[fanofthegame]

Then you guys are ok with the team that is up putting their starters back in and hanging three more TD's on the losers? Then you'd be on here bitching about how they didn't pull their starters early enough.

[Deleted]

Oct 16, 2017 15:47:40 GMT -5 fanofthegame said:

Then you guys are ok with the team that is up putting their starters back in and hanging three more TD's on the losers? Then you'd be on here bitching about how they didn't pull their starters early enough.

if Huron put their starters back in and scored 3 TD's in a minute that would be impressive. We are talking about this specific game and not the pulling of starters in general.

[fanofthegame]

Oct 16, 2017 15:57:21 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

Oct 16, 2017 15:47:40 GMT -5 fanofthegame said:

Then you guys are ok with the team that is up putting their starters back in and hanging three more TD's on the losers? Then you'd be on here bitching about how they didn't pull their starters early enough.

if Huron put their starters back in and scored 3 TD's in a minute that would be impressive. We are talking about this specific game and not the pulling of starters in general.

Two different people reference Huron putting their JV in with 8 minutes left. If they did that and Vermilion left their starters in scoring two TD's that is wrong IMO. You don't have to agree with me. I believe that the same people who are defending Vermilion doing that would crucify Huron for putting their starters back if after Vermilion left theirs in. In 46 years and a lot of football I've never seen a team with an ounce of pride put up two TD's and onside kick with their ones against another team's twos.

[Deleted]

Show me where it says in the rule book when you have to put your second string in

[fanofthegame]

It doesn't. Would it have been ok for Huron to leave their ones in and run up the score? Huron did the sportsmanlike thing and put their twos in. They showed mercy on another group of high school boys. Most coaches know they might be in the same boat one day. Vermilion responded by scoring two with their first team on Huron's second. Bad sportsmanship IMO.

[Deleted]

Oct 16, 2017 19:22:43 GMT -5 fanofthegame said:

It doesn't. Would it have been ok for Huron to leave their ones in and run up the score? Huron did the sportsmanlike thing and put their twos in. They showed mercy on another group of high school boys. Most coaches know they might be in the same boat one day. Vermilion responded by scoring two with their first team on Huron's second. Bad sportsmanship IMO.

So if Vermilion's second team would of scored the 2 touchdowns it would be ok? If yes, what's the difference? If no, why are they evening bothering finishing the game?

[fanofthegame]

Oct 16, 2017 20:13:33 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

Oct 16, 2017 19:22:43 GMT -5 fanofthegame said:

It doesn't. Would it have been ok for Huron to leave their ones in and run up the score? Huron did the sportsmanlike thing and put their twos in. They showed mercy on another group of high school boys. Most coaches know they might be in the same boat one day. Vermilion responded by scoring two with their first team on Huron's second. Bad sportsmanship IMO.

So if Vermilion's second team would of scored the 2 touchdowns it would be ok? If yes, what's the difference? If no, why are they evening bothering finishing the game?

Yes.

The difference is players of similar age and skill level were playing against each other.

You finish the game to get younger kids experience playing on the big stage.

Did you play football? This is pretty universal. I've literally never seen it handled any differently and I've been involved on both sides (winning and losing big). One as a player and one as a father of players.

[Deleted]

Oct 16, 2017 20:23:41 GMT -5 fanofthegame said:

Oct 16, 2017 20:13:33 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

So if Vermilion's second team would of scored the 2 touchdowns it would be ok? If yes, what's the difference? If no, why are they evening bothering finishing the game?

Yes.

The difference is players of similar age and skill level were playing against each other.

You finish the game to get younger kids experience playing on the big stage.

Did you play football? This is pretty universal. I've literally never seen it handled any differently and I've been involved on both sides (winning and losing big). One as a player and one as a father of players.

yes I played football and I have no problem with a coach keeping his varsity players in during a varsity football game. That's why they have jv games. Playing time is earned correct? Maybe the varsity players have earned the right to finish the game and not the jv players. You Huron people make it sound like winning 40-28 instead of 40-14 ruined your season. That's poor sportsmanship. Keep cheering for the most overrated program in north central Ohio.

[fanofthegame]

Not a Huron guy. I made that clear in my first post. Just a guy who learned basic sportsmanship in the course of winning most of my football games big.

[hteam]

most overrated? come on big hoss! we have won MORE SBC titles than anyone else in the SBC. how is that most overrated? won 70% of our games in almost 70 years of football.

There are no rules to who plays. Its more of a slap in the face to Vermilion bench kids who do not have a freshman team, who do not have a jv team, and did not get to play friday night based on a coaches decision. IMO this is why they only have 30+ kids on the team. No reason at all why since they didnt have a sup varsity team , why they could not have been in this game. I feel bad for those kids. They work hard too. and the situation merit them playing. thats just pure horrible coaching.

[piratefan]

Oct 17, 2017 5:48:46 GMT -5 hteam said:

most overrated? come on big hoss! we have won MORE SBC titles than anyone else in the SBC. how is that most overrated? won 70% of our games in almost 70 years of football.

Apparently most of the Huron faithful have forgotten. Your home side stands are more than 1/2 empty every Friday night. The visitor's side usually has more people show up than the Tigers do. Doesn't speak well for "Tiger Pride". 


As to letting JV players play when the game is decided, that's completely a coach's decision. Some do, some don't. Never bothered me either way, and yes, I played.

[Skip Bayless]

Oct 17, 2017 8:09:58 GMT -5 piratefan said:

Oct 17, 2017 5:48:46 GMT -5 hteam said:

most overrated? come on big hoss! we have won MORE SBC titles than anyone else in the SBC. how is that most overrated? won 70% of our games in almost 70 years of football.

Apparently most of the Huron faithful have forgotten. Your home side stands are more than 1/2 empty every Friday night. The visitor's side usually has more people show up than the Tigers do. Doesn't speak well for "Tiger Pride". 


As to letting JV players play when the game is decided, that's completely a coach's decision. Some do, some don't. Never bothered me either way, and yes, I played.

There home side is bigger than most teams home sides. That has nothing to do with their football tradition. I agree coach has the decision on who plays. I don't agree huron is overrated. Hell our stands at perkins are 3/4 empty. So we have the fair weather fan going on. I been to everyone of our games, its painful.  But I am there.
As for the topic. I think when the situation merits itself you should play every kid. Vermilion will get two more opportunites in the next two weeks to get those kids in. Shelby will be fun I am sure.

[Deleted]

If Huron isn't the most overrated program then who is?

[sport24278]

I suspect that Hteam's original complaint had a lot to do with the final score. It was 40-14, then the Sailors got 2 late scores. So instead of people seeing that Huron won big, they saw that Huron "only" won by 12. I doubt he cares at all about Vermilion's kids that didn't get to play.

[Deleted]

Oct 17, 2017 16:22:26 GMT -5 sport24278 said:

I suspect that Hteam's original complaint had a lot to do with the final score. It was 40-14, then the Sailors got 2 late scores. So instead of people seeing that Huron won big, they saw that Huron "only" won by 12. I doubt he cares at all about Vermilion's kids that didn't get to play.

It was probably his kid that got burnt for those TD's

[greenman]

Oct 17, 2017 8:38:30 GMT -5 Skip Bayless said:

Oct 17, 2017 8:09:58 GMT -5 piratefan said:

Apparently most of the Huron faithful have forgotten. Your home side stands are more than 1/2 empty every Friday night. The visitor's side usually has more people show up than the Tigers do. Doesn't speak well for "Tiger Pride". 


As to letting JV players play when the game is decided, that's completely a coach's decision. Some do, some don't. Never bothered me either way, and yes, I played.

There home side is bigger than most teams home sides. That has nothing to do with their football tradition. I agree coach has the decision on who plays. I don't agree huron is overrated. Hell our stands at perkins are 3/4 empty. So we have the fair weather fan going on. I been to everyone of our games, its painful.  But I am there.
As for the topic. I think when the situation merits itself you should play every kid. Vermilion will get two more opportunites in the next two weeks to get those kids in. Shelby will be fun I am sure.

When it comes to football, Tiger Pride does run much deeper than Pirate Pride. Back in the day - late '90s/early '00s - my mother (God rest her soul) would whoop it up at Pirate games with her clanging cowbell. The country club crowd around her would deign to give the Pirate gridders a golf clap for a good play, and that was it. It may not be all the CC crowd anymore, but the reaction, I guess, is similar.


On a lighter note: She always had a laugh about the stink-eye she would get from people when she first started - she didn't care what they thought - but as those years went by, more and more people came to appreciate her screaming and that cowbell. She was an NSP alumna (pre-Livengood), and that's just what people there did, but the people at Perkins who appreciated the cowbell and the screaming acted as if they'd never seen or heard anyone bring a cowbell to a game before.

[piratefan]

Oct 17, 2017 18:26:04 GMT -5 greenman said:

Oct 17, 2017 8:38:30 GMT -5 Skip Bayless said:

When it comes to football, Tiger Pride does run much deeper than Pirate Pride. 

I beg to differ. Apparently you haven't been to too many Huron Tiger games in the last few years. The home side is so sparse, and quiet, you'd think the people over there were asleep. I've been attending Pirate (and Huron) games since the '70's, and even on really down years (and there were lots of those 35 or so years ago) the Perkins fans were always up and cheering. Still are, even with this dismal year the Pirates are having. On the other hand, I have several friends who have sons playing for Huron, and they agree with me. Tiger Pride is nowhere near what it was 10 years ago. They, and I, believe interest started declining when Legando retired.