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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 14:01:34 GMT -5
I have never supported kids jumping schools for sports but understand why it happens. In this case, if the kid does have a future after high school, he could benefit from playing in the OCC school schedule over Ontario's. So you only support it when a kid leaves Ontario?? Are you being serious? I said I never support it but understand why it happens. With Ontario they had multiple kids playing sports for them that came in this year. I do not support it but understand it happens for different reasons. Unfortunately it has become a part of high school sports in todays world. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 14:05:19 GMT -5
Stop being negative for a brief moment. Is it possible the Mansfield O-line is better, or the offense is different. Do you assume every team will have their QB get hit and need his ankle reconstructed? If you see it as a kid fleeing do you not blame him if that program is dysfunctional? The kid is a multisport athlete and is leaving for a reason. What motivates you and I does not matter to this kid. And he wants to play better football. He already gave 2 years to bad football. If you're the starting qb you are going to get hit so that's a ridiculous statement right there. I don't blame the kid for leaving but I think we both realize that if Ontario was 8-2 and playoff bound last season rather than 2-8 with an absolute dumpster fire full of drama that he's not transferring to "upgrade his level of competition". I'm not so sure 8-2 last season would have kept him. |
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Post by galion on Mar 1, 2018 14:07:31 GMT -5
Stop being negative for a brief moment. Is it possible the Mansfield O-line is better, or the offense is different. Do you assume every team will have their QB get hit and need his ankle reconstructed? If you see it as a kid fleeing do you not blame him if that program is dysfunctional? The kid is a multisport athlete and is leaving for a reason. What motivates you and I does not matter to this kid. And he wants to play better football. He already gave 2 years to bad football. If you're the starting qb you are going to get hit so that's a ridiculous statement right there. I don't blame the kid for leaving but I think we both realize that if Ontario was 8-2 and playoff bound last season rather than 2-8 with an absolute dumpster fire full of drama that he's not transferring to "upgrade his level of competition". Actually, with the exception of Ashland, one could argue that he's actually downgrading his level of competition based on the results of last season. Wasn't Mt Vernon 0-2 against the MOAC? Let's not forget the football powerhouses that Madison and Lex trotted onto the field last season. Oh wait, Lex was one of Ontario's only 2 wins. West holmes? Enough said. Wooster was reasonable I guess. |
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Post by malabar10 on Mar 1, 2018 14:18:30 GMT -5
The way I see it, Mansfield Sr traded 3 basketball players for a QB. Sounds about right!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 14:22:35 GMT -5
Stop being negative for a brief moment. Is it possible the Mansfield O-line is better, or the offense is different. Do you assume every team will have their QB get hit and need his ankle reconstructed? If you see it as a kid fleeing do you not blame him if that program is dysfunctional? The kid is a multisport athlete and is leaving for a reason. What motivates you and I does not matter to this kid. And he wants to play better football. He already gave 2 years to bad football. If you're the starting qb you are going to get hit so that's a ridiculous statement right there. I don't blame the kid for leaving but I think we both realize that if Ontario was 8-2 and playoff bound last season rather than 2-8 with an absolute dumpster fire full of drama that he's not transferring to "upgrade his level of competition". Every QB gets hit, but that was not your point in mentioning a reconstructed ankle. Don't be so sure that an 8-2 record would have kept him. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 14:31:32 GMT -5
If you're the starting qb you are going to get hit so that's a ridiculous statement right there. I don't blame the kid for leaving but I think we both realize that if Ontario was 8-2 and playoff bound last season rather than 2-8 with an absolute dumpster fire full of drama that he's not transferring to "upgrade his level of competition". Actually, with the exception of Ashland, one could argue that he's actually downgrading his level of competition based on the results of last season. Wasn't Mt Vernon 0-2 against the MOAC? Let's not forget the football powerhouses that Madison and Lex trotted onto the field last season. Oh wait, Lex was one of Ontario's only 2 wins. West holmes? Enough said. Wooster was reasonable I guess. Are you forgetting Northland, Perkins and St Johns? I said he was making the move to play an OCC school schedule. This would be Mansfield's 10 games. But hey, I'll give you your opinion of the tomato can OCC teams. Why wouldn't Galion take advantage of it and beat up on a few local bigger schools for the points to make the playoffs before playing their tough MOAC schedule. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 14:34:56 GMT -5
So you only support it when a kid leaves Ontario?? No he just supports any opportunity he has to make himself feel better about his OCC by taking shots at other area conferences(the MOAC in particular). This is your personal feelings and I'm okay with that. Do I feel the OCC is a strong conference? Yes. Where my comments about a kid leaving Ontario made to take a shot at the MOAC? No. My point was the kid feels he will give himself a better chance at sports after high school by making this switch. Again, I do not support it but understand it happens. |
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Post by galion on Mar 1, 2018 15:47:17 GMT -5
Are you forgetting Northland, Perkins and St Johns? I said he was making the move to play an OCC school schedule. This would be Mansfield's 10 games. But hey, I'll give you your opinion of the tomato can OCC teams. Why wouldn't Galion take advantage of it and beat up on a few local bigger schools for the points to make the playoffs before playing their tough MOAC schedule. Who can forget 7-3 Northland whose schedule was so weak that they couldn't even make the playoffs? Or 2-8 Perkins? St. John's is a pretty reasonable opponent though. |
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Post by galion on Mar 1, 2018 15:56:09 GMT -5
That being said it’s still hard to fathom a kid leaving Ontario in search of a better education
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 16:00:01 GMT -5
Are you forgetting Northland, Perkins and St Johns? I said he was making the move to play an OCC school schedule. This would be Mansfield's 10 games. But hey, I'll give you your opinion of the tomato can OCC teams. Why wouldn't Galion take advantage of it and beat up on a few local bigger schools for the points to make the playoffs before playing their tough MOAC schedule. Who can forget 7-3 Northland whose schedule was so weak that they couldn't even make the playoffs? Or 2-8 Perkins? St. John's is a pretty reasonable opponent though. I'm sure you meant to say Northland instead of Highland and Perkins instead of Cardington-Lincoln. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 16:01:51 GMT -5
That being said it’s still hard to fathom a kid leaving Ontario in search of a better education A good education can be found at many schools in our area if a student is looking for it. |
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Post by galion on Mar 1, 2018 17:32:24 GMT -5
Who can forget 7-3 Northland whose schedule was so weak that they couldn't even make the playoffs? Or 2-8 Perkins? St. John's is a pretty reasonable opponent though. I'm sure you meant to say Northland instead of Highland and Perkins instead of Cardington-Lincoln. [ No I said what I meant to. The difference in the schools you are talking about about schedule wise is inches not yards. It’s not like he’s transferring to whitmer or something. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 22:11:23 GMT -5
I'm sure you meant to say Northland instead of Highland and Perkins instead of Cardington-Lincoln. [ No I said what I meant to. The difference in the schools you are talking about about schedule wise is inches not yards. It’s not like he’s transferring to whitmer or something. But how many college scouts and media outlets will be at the Ontario-Galion and how many will be at the Mansfield-Lexington game this year? That difference is inches to yards. |
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Post by galion on Mar 1, 2018 22:51:22 GMT -5
Gee it's too bad that someone hasn't invented some tool on the internet to help get kids more exposure to colleges. Maybe colleges should start having summer camps or something to see potential recruits. It's a shame that nobody from Galion managed to get recruited by colleges back when we were in the mighty NCC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 23:16:55 GMT -5
Your sarcasm is very good and on point but we both know what the answer to my question is.
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Post by galion on Mar 2, 2018 0:52:33 GMT -5
No we really don't. If Stover has committed to OSU or injured again by then there will be little reason to scout that game. And if that kid is as good as some believe he is they will see him regardless of where he plays. Again, a lot of scouting is internet based now anyway. Everything is on huddl now including the gamefilms.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 7:36:15 GMT -5
So you think there will be no media coverage or college personnel at the Mansfield - Lexington game. You need to get out of Galion a little bit.
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Post by galion on Mar 2, 2018 8:39:21 GMT -5
If you consider the Mansfield tv station news coverage, then I'm sure there will be some. Again the number of scouts there is directly proportional to Cade Stover's status when the game is played. There was probably more "star" power at this season's Lex/Sr game than there will be next season. I don't recall FSO or anybody else beating down the door to cover it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 8:51:44 GMT -5
If you consider the Mansfield tv station news coverage, then I'm sure there will be some. Again the number of scouts there is directly proportional to Cade Stover's status when the game is played. There was probably more "star" power at this season's Lex/Sr game than there will be next season. I don't recall FSO or anybody else beating down the door to cover it. Would you have been the one they called to set that up? If you are not, you would not know if they called to get sideline access to put together a highlight film over a 3 games stretch. But i'm sure that happened at Ontario. |
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Post by malabar10 on Mar 2, 2018 9:12:29 GMT -5
If someone is coming to watch the Lex-Senior game, it's to watch the juniors on Senior's line. Stover is already a known quantity! last month was a parade of coaches coming thru Senior to talk to the sophs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 9:17:33 GMT -5
If someone is coming to watch the Lex-Senior game, it's to watch the juniors on Senior's line. Stover is already a known quantity! last month was a parade of coaches coming thru Senior to talk to the sophs. M10, so why would anyone want to play at Senior. Being seen and talked to be a "parade of coaches" would not be an upgrade.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 9:19:08 GMT -5
And being a "known quantity" does not stop the visits. In many ways it increases them.
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Post by galion on Mar 2, 2018 12:38:20 GMT -5
If someone is coming to watch the Lex-Senior game, it's to watch the juniors on Senior's line. Stover is already a known quantity! last month was a parade of coaches coming thru Senior to talk to the sophs. M10, so why would anyone want to play at Senior. Being seen and talked to be a "parade of coaches" would not be an upgrade. Exactly, over the last month. Take that in dude. Over the last month isn't football season is it. That's when a lot of the visits are happening now, after the season and into the spring. Why you ask? Because they can scout the kid from the convenience of the computer in their offices. They can literally sit down at their desks and watch every snap a potential recruit took in his entire high school career over and over and over again. The need for eyes in the stands has been almost eliminated. Funny thing about that parade of coaches is that they can find talent EVERYWHERE. Kentucky found its way to Wynford. The Big 10 found its way to Galion while we were in the NCC for goodness sake. They clearly found their way to Shelby. And I'm betting that there are coaches that are finding their way to Northmor as we speak. Apparently, though, they wouldn't be able to find Ontario? Stop it you're just being silly now. Hey, the kid wants to win. Sr gives him the best chance to do that. He's not making the playoffs in Ontario. |
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Post by galion on Mar 2, 2018 12:40:06 GMT -5
If you consider the Mansfield tv station news coverage, then I'm sure there will be some. Again the number of scouts there is directly proportional to Cade Stover's status when the game is played. There was probably more "star" power at this season's Lex/Sr game than there will be next season. I don't recall FSO or anybody else beating down the door to cover it. Would you have been the one they called to set that up? If you are not, you would not know if they called to get sideline access to put together a highlight film over a 3 games stretch. But i'm sure that happened at Ontario. I don't need to make the phone call. All I have to do is watch their weekly football shows to know that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 12:44:55 GMT -5
M10, so why would anyone want to play at Senior. Being seen and talked to be a "parade of coaches" would not be an upgrade. Exactly, over the last month. Take that in dude. Over the last month isn't football season is it. That's when a lot of the visits are happening now, after the season and into the spring. Why you ask? Because they can scout the kid from the convenience of the computer in their offices. They can literally sit down at their desks and watch every snap a potential recruit took in his entire high school career over and over and over again. The need for eyes in the stands has been almost eliminated. Funny thing about that parade of coaches is that they can find talent EVERYWHERE. Kentucky found its way to Wynford. The Big 10 found its way to Galion while we were in the NCC for goodness sake. They clearly found their way to Shelby. And I'm betting that there are coaches that are finding their way to Northmor as we speak. Apparently, though, they wouldn't be able to find Ontario? Stop it you're just being silly now. Hey, the kid wants to win. Sr gives him the best chance to do that. He's not making the playoffs in Ontario. Understandable. So you are claiming that over the last month there have been a "parade of coaches" at Galion and Ontario? It's not tough to find any school but how many kids were seen while Watkins was at Galion compared to them being seen now? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 12:47:51 GMT -5
Would you have been the one they called to set that up? If you are not, you would not know if they called to get sideline access to put together a highlight film over a 3 games stretch. But i'm sure that happened at Ontario. I don't need to make the phone call. All I have to do is watch their weekly football shows to know that. I did not ask if you would make a phone call. I asked if you would know the call came in. |
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Post by galion on Mar 2, 2018 12:52:07 GMT -5
There is nobody at Galion right now that would justify a parade of coaches. If you are a D1/D2 athlete they are going to find you. That's their job, their programs and their jobs depend on it. Don't kid yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 13:00:59 GMT -5
I'm not kidding anyone or trying. I'm saying playing at a place the regularly has and plays against kids that are being watched HELPS. That is why he claims he is moving. For the bigger competition and the bigger atmosphere. Why do you see more coaches at AAU tournaments, Spring combines, Summer baseball tournaments. Because coaches can see multiple kids and they are out of season. If a D2 coach or scout can see multiple kids at one time they love that. Sometimes they even discover a kid while watching another, but they have to be their first. And like you said they have no reason to be at a Galion game for that to happen.
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Post by 4 on Mar 3, 2018 21:55:30 GMT -5
older harding fans, i seen the fitness center getting a new look inside. new equipment and flooring i read, if you went to old harding you’ll be a fan of that haha
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Post by galion on Mar 4, 2018 3:22:17 GMT -5
I'm not kidding anyone or trying. I'm saying playing at a place the regularly has and plays against kids that are being watched HELPS. That is why he claims he is moving. For the bigger competition and the bigger atmosphere. Why do you see more coaches at AAU tournaments, Spring combines, Summer baseball tournaments. Because coaches can see multiple kids and they are out of season. If a D2 coach or scout can see multiple kids at one time they love that. Sometimes they even discover a kid while watching another, but they have to be their first. And like you said they have no reason to be at a Galion game for that to happen. Exactly, they have no reason to be in Galion, or anywhere else, when they can watch multiple games at the same time. The only reason to be at a game is if you are really going after somebody hard and trying to impress them. Even then I'm not certain what if any contact they are allowed to make with them. Also, the kid in question is not an unknown commodity. There is already a "buzz" around him. The scouts already know who he is. He's not going to be discovered by anybody because he went to Sr. |
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