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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 10:11:08 GMT -5
If that were 100% true then 100s of Ohio athletes that change teams during their careers are wasting time. But I do know kids who have been seen while a coach is in the stands watching a player from another team and ended up having doors open for them. Even in today's world of internet sites and hudl, a phone call from a guy in the stands carries more weight. And all programs send coaches or scouts to games.
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Post by galion on Mar 4, 2018 12:05:43 GMT -5
Again he’s a known commodity nobody is discovering him. He is doing this to win games and have an opportunity to play in the playoffs none of your maybe they’ll find me here argument applies to him
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 12:09:05 GMT -5
Whose commodity list is he on? IF he felt he was being recruited at the highest level he would not be leaving. Just ask him.
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Post by galion on Mar 4, 2018 12:51:03 GMT -5
Just because he changes teams doesn’t change his physical skill set. He’s not suddenly going to jump up a division because he magically goes from one team to another.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 13:05:52 GMT -5
Just because he changes teams doesn’t change his physical skill set. He’s not suddenly going to jump up a division because he magically goes from one team to another. Who claims that? What colleges have looked at him and have interest? |
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Post by galion on Mar 4, 2018 15:58:18 GMT -5
The one thing that Hawkins was very good at was getting his kids exposure to colleges. He sent them to the right camps and their videos were clearly placed in all the right spots online. The more kids he got to colleges the better his recruiting opportunities were(not that he did that). He had clearly built his offense around the athlete in question just as he had with Watkins and Ney and Barnett before him. Oh yeah, they also played Lex, so if your argument holds water then all of the colleges recruiting Stover have already seen him. Doesn't Ont play Lex again this season as well?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 21:59:03 GMT -5
So I’ll ask again, what colleges have him on their list?
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Post by galion on Mar 5, 2018 6:13:26 GMT -5
Just because somebody saw him play doesn't mean they are interested. Changing teams is not going to change that. But it will give him an opportunity to be on a contender for a conference championship and most likely he'll get to experience playoff football. Which, if we're being honest, is really what he's after here. I mean if you can't put team success ahead of personal accomplishment in this sport then you are pretty much a cancer in your locker room anyway. I'm not saying that he is, but he's no longer the big fish in a small pond now. With that comes a diminished role as there are others who can make plays as well. Of course, that's assuming that he even wins the qb job at Sr.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 9:45:36 GMT -5
So I’ll ask again, what colleges have him on their list? Is it safe to assume that your answer is none, no lists? This is the reason for the move.
If the kid wanted to be the "big fish in a small pond" we would not be having this discussion as he already was that.
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Post by galion on Mar 5, 2018 12:02:25 GMT -5
If he goes to SR and doesn't win the qb job then whose list is he going to be on? Unless you're saying he's been promised the job already.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 12:30:05 GMT -5
If he goes to SR and doesn't win the qb job then whose list is he going to be on? Unless you're saying he's been promised the job already. From your lack of answering my question can I assume he has not been noticed at Ontario? So if he and Dad say they made the move to get noticed and play bigger or better competition we have no reason to doubt them. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 5, 2018 22:07:17 GMT -5
M10, so why would anyone want to play at Senior. Being seen and talked to be a "parade of coaches" would not be an upgrade.  Exactly, over the last month. Take that in dude. Over the last month isn't football season is it. That's when a lot of the visits are happening now, after the season and into the spring. Why you ask? Because they can scout the kid from the convenience of the computer in their offices. They can literally sit down at their desks and watch every snap a potential recruit took in his entire high school career over and over and over again. The need for eyes in the stands has been almost eliminated. Funny thing about that parade of coaches is that they can find talent EVERYWHERE. Kentucky found its way to Wynford. The Big 10 found its way to Galion while we were in the NCC for goodness sake. They clearly found their way to Shelby. And I'm betting that there are coaches that are finding their way to Northmor as we speak. Apparently, though, they wouldn't be able to find Ontario? Stop it you're just being silly now. Hey, the kid wants to win. Sr gives him the best chance to do that. He's not making the playoffs in Ontario. Ohio State found their way to itsy bitsy Ontario in 1984 through a principal who was an Ohio State grad. That year they had a 6-7 240 Tight End who out ran DBs. Ohio State sent an assistant coach to a practice. Timed him in a 40, measured the length of his arms and he was offered a scholarship on the spot. If you're an NFL caliber player you WILL be found regardless of how small the school is or how bad the team is. JMHO In this case the hope is to find a full ride instead of partial at Ashland U. HOWEVER, the Dad of the previous QB who transferred to Senior, was SURE if his kid played at Senior he'd get a scholarship to a Div1 school. The best he could do was DIII. His dad wasted a lot of money on a 3 day/week personal trainer for 3 years. ALSO, he should be getting better grades at Senior than Ontario. As the competition isn't nearly as difficult in the class room as it is on the gridiron. JMHO |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 5, 2018 22:18:53 GMT -5
If he goes to SR and doesn't win the qb job then whose list is he going to be on? Unless you're saying he's been promised the job already. Dad has been talking to Senior's Head coach for a year in a half. If he wasn't promised the starting job, he'd be transferring elsewhere. If I was someone at Ashland HS I'd be calling the OHSAA. Sneaking in before the change in the transfer rule makes it MUCH easier on the head coach. That way Senior's head coach after 5 games doesn't have to be concerned about telling his starting QB AND the team, that he just became the back up to a kid who never played for Senior before and had not practiced with the first unit. I wonder who figured that out?? The dad isn't up to it. JMHO |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 5, 2018 22:41:47 GMT -5
So you only support it when a kid leaves Ontario?? Are you being serious? I said I never support it but understand why it happens. With Ontario they had multiple kids playing sports for them that came in this year. I do not support it but understand it happens for different reasons. Unfortunately it has become a part of high school sports in todays world. I bet you supported it when Jamie Feick transferred from Ontario to Lexington? JMHO |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 5, 2018 22:46:21 GMT -5
haha till Stover hits him in that week 6 game. he might be an OSU Commit by then. but todd is more likely to be noticed at senior imo. Will have better players surrounding him. Assuming that Lex doesn't suck again and Stover isn't sitting out the remainder of the season to save himself for basketball again(I mean injured) like he did this season. If Stover is smart he'll sit out football so he doesn't get injured, then do as Urban suggests and enrolls early at Ohio State to get a year jump on his NFL career. Urban wants his top Freshmen to play right away, since so many leave early. But if they don't graduate early and play spring ball, they fall behind. JMHO |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 23:22:41 GMT -5
haha till Stover hits him in that week 6 game. he might be an OSU Commit by then. but todd is more likely to be noticed at senior imo. Will have better players surrounding him. Assuming that Lex doesn't suck again and Stover isn't sitting out the remainder of the season to save himself for basketball again(I mean injured) like he did this season. Stover was injured in game 6, sat out game 7 & 8 and then played in games 9 & 10. |
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Post by galiontiger on Mar 8, 2018 17:06:16 GMT -5
I saw that Lexington kid (OSU commit) play basketball against Colonel Crawford about a month ago. It was a close game, because Colonel Crawford has a very good team, but that kid is DOMINANT. It's like a Man playing against boys. It was fun to watch him play.
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Post by 4 on Mar 9, 2018 1:18:59 GMT -5
not an osu commit yet, i’m guessing he will be this fall. he will be a top 100 player in country by end of 2018. think he’s just outside of it right now. still a 4 star recruit, he is a workhorse and urban is going to love having him fly around on defense. good at basketball too
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Post by 4 on Mar 12, 2018 18:48:10 GMT -5
Ladd who went back to pleasant is running track, would he still have to sit football games ? or will sitting out track take care of that. i wasn’t sure of that
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Post by babymaker on Mar 12, 2018 19:06:43 GMT -5
I think if you go back to your school of residence you still have to sit 1/2 the season to the point you moved.
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Post by wallacefan on Mar 12, 2018 20:08:40 GMT -5
I think if you go back to your school of residence you still have to sit 1/2 the season to the point you moved. Doesn't work that way...you have to sit out 50% of the season unless you fit an exception: EXCEPTION 9: A student shall be entitled to one transfer to the public high school located in the public school district within which the student’s parent residence is located regardless of whether the student is transferring from a public or nonpublic school. Was told he fits the exception. |
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Post by galion on Mar 12, 2018 21:02:44 GMT -5
Even if he didn't he could serve the penalty during track season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 21:20:38 GMT -5
I have always been told the penalty applies to all sports the athlete played the previous school year. If an athlete does not meet an exception, adding a new sport does not absorb the penalty.
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Post by gt1975 on Mar 12, 2018 21:32:28 GMT -5
I have always been told the penalty applies to all sports the athlete played the previous school year. If an athlete does not meet an exception, adding a new sport does not absorb the penalty. This is what I've been told too. |
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Post by 4 on Mar 12, 2018 21:46:30 GMT -5
i was thinking it was maybe all sports
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 3:51:54 GMT -5
Not from what I have been told. If a kid plays football and transfers he has to sit have his football season but could run a full track schedule. Exceptions made for many reasons based on specifics.
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Post by 4 on Mar 19, 2018 14:29:43 GMT -5
harding senior Seth Tyler has signed to play football at D2 Ashland.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2018 16:21:09 GMT -5
I think if you go back to your school of residence you still have to sit 1/2 the season to the point you moved. Doesn't work that way...you have to sit out 50% of the season unless you fit an exception: EXCEPTION 9: A student shall be entitled to one transfer to the public high school located in the public school district within which the student’s parent residence is located regardless of whether the student is transferring from a public or nonpublic school. Was told he fits the exception. That's correct. Shaq Coburn's family was living in Ontario and they were sending him to Mansfield Christian where he played basketball. This year they did not enroll him at Mansfield Christian and he went to school in his home School District of Ontario. Thus, he did not have to sit out any games. I have a good idea, but I do not know the reason for the change in schools for Shaq. The reason for the exception, is to cover the situation when it is no longer feasible for a family to afford a private school's tuition. |
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Post by 4 on Mar 19, 2018 22:08:43 GMT -5
made a post in general discussion looking for some help in if anyone has time to read it and could offer a hand.
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Post by pirate80 on Mar 21, 2018 6:52:07 GMT -5
In the KMAC the Cardington and Fredericktown jobs are open. Any MOAC candidates on staffs for these jobs that anyone knows of?
The Cardington job opening was not by choice. Was a school board decision based on wanting a different direction. I think that's a very bitter pill for a first year coach, but the board stuck with their decision.
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