N10 Off Season

[Willard Fillmore]

Aug 10, 2018 7:12:17 GMT -5 fbfan said:

Aug 10, 2018 6:25:12 GMT -5 galion said:

Well we all know what happened the last time Sheldon got "upset".   Looks like the MOAC might find that 8th team sooner rather than later.

Much was made of how quickly a new league was formed "last time". Kicking out Upper should not be as complicated as forming a new league, so I guess we'll know if your statement is baloney or not, by basketball season. 

It took a couple of years to come to fruition.   

[fbfan]

Aug 10, 2018 14:52:16 GMT -5 Willard Fillmore said:

Aug 10, 2018 7:12:17 GMT -5 fbfan said:

Much was made of how quickly a new league was formed "last time". Kicking out Upper should not be as complicated as forming a new league, so I guess we'll know if your statement is baloney or not, by basketball season. 

It took a couple of years to come to fruition.   

Yes, you are correct. It took a couple of years after the formation, for the new league to begin, after the required notices were given by the N10 schools to their former leagues.

[hookshot]

My prediction is that if Upper starts winning at football this year. New coaching staff so who knows and they complete the 4yr sweep of boys basketball. It won't be long before the hook comes out and they are shown the door. Maybe 2020 is my best guess.

[dude]

Aug 12, 2018 11:44:45 GMT -5 hookshot said:

My prediction is that if Upper starts winning at football this year. New coaching staff so who knows and they complete the 4yr sweep of boys basketball. It won't be long before the hook comes out and they are shown the door. Maybe 2020 is my best guess.

This is possible but it may not depend on the football team at all. The changes in the previous league happened mainly because of basketball. It could happen again.

[bigboy97]

Have heard that Upper may have gotten a pretty good player. Coming from CCrawford

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Aug 16, 2018 10:33:05 GMT -5 bigboy97 said:

Have heard that Upper may have gotten a pretty good player. Coming from CCrawford

Welcome to the party bigboy97.

[bigox]

Ok so as the dead period comes to a close and school is starting off here is my prediction for the n10 this season and reasons why.
1. Upper. They were going to be ok and in the top half of the league with what they had. Add one of the league leaders in scoring and assists to that mix and well look for them to go 16-0 in league play
2. Crawford. They had the pieces in place to take over the edge and be league leaders. Pull out Mcreary and that's a lot to overcome. Still a solid team but will need kids to step up and fill the void
3. Mohawk. Talented group returning for the warriors. Lead by Hayman and Hammer. 5 seniors with lots of playing time together they will be a tough out every night.
4. Carey. Lost a ton to graduation last year but were best in jv play in the league last year. Will be interesting to see if they can get enough help around Stone. He is a load of a player and has worked really hard in the summer.
5. Wynford. Look for Crall to continue to put up solid 20 point games most nights out. Question will be can anyone else on the team give him enough help to move up in the league. How will Morh do on his second stint with the Royals.
6. Seneca East. First year coach Chris Long has 6 returning seniors to help him with being new to the district. They might surprise one or to of the top teams in the league but doubtful they will challenge for top of the league.
7. Bucyrus. Second year under Coach Mattix. The Redmen get better than 3-20 this year? Not sure but a .500 season would be a huge improvement.
8. Ridgedale. Another year and another freshman class pillaged of it's best 3 basketball players moving up from junior high. One transferred to Marion Harding and the other two to Elgin. Hard to keep athletes when you don't offer sports kids want to play..
9. Buckeye Central. Coach Loy had a great knack for getting the most out of average kids. And running a very controlled program. New coach this year big shoes to fill and I look for the Bucks to struggle this year.

[dude]

Upper should be the clear favorite to the title. CC, Mohawk and Carey could battle for second. Seneca East could be a top half team and Wynford could surprise us with Coach Mohr back in charge. For Bucyrus a .500 season would be an incredible improvement since they have reached that mark only 3 times in the last 15 seasons. Ridgedale nuff said. Coach Loy will be missed.

[royalballdad]

Agree with Dude. Upper will go 16-0 in league. Possible 22-0. Think they will be favorite to win district and make it to Regionals.

Adding McCreary's Assists & points per game will be a big boost to Uppers Offense.
Plus with his length - he will help their already solid defense.
They will definitely be a very good team.

My Royals will struggle. Not sure Crall will average 20 per game this season. Not enough other scorers around him. He will be double & Triple teamed.

Be interesting to see how good Mohawk is with all those returners and being that they are seniors.

[bigox]

Whoa. Ease up there Royalballdad. I can maybe see Upper going through the N10 unscathed but no way they get to 22-0. They have two decently tough games in both Shelby and Lexington. The later is going to be the biggest test. Lost by 9 to the minutemen at Lexington last year and by 9 to Shelby.... they get both of them on home court but still toughest games by far on the schedule. Not to mention if the Willard faithful are correct the opener against the Flashes at the Elephant Room will be good game.
As far as your Royals I think they will run enough rub stuff to pick Crall open. And if your point guard can get him the ball you'll be ok from what I seen.

[royalballdad]

Agree Lex Shelby & Willard will be tough games. Upper lost last season to Lex at Lex without two starters (one being a big) by 9. Not un-realistic to see them get to 22-0.

Yes - need many rub screens. And a couple other players to step up and become scorers. Plus the PG must handle the pressure and make the passes to Crall. Not sure they will have enough to be very competitive.

Upper, CC, Mohawk, Carey - that is 0-8. At best 10-10.

[dude]

Last season Upper lost at Lexington 65-52 with both teams missing a starter. Upper lost at Shelby 68-59. Upper beat Willard 60-49 at home.

[royalballdad]

Against Lex - the Young kid played but shouldn't have according to what I heard. Missing Holy was what really hurt Upper in that game.

With a healthy roster and the addition of McCreary, I think Upper has a shot to go 22-0.

Agree - tough games vs Shelby, Lex & Willard. So at worst I see them 19-3 or 20-2.

Will stand by my 10-10 for Wynford.

Mohawk & Crawford battle for 2nd in the N10 and Carey finishes 4th.

[dumbfarmer]

It’s too bad the McCreary kid was forced into doing something he didn’t want too, all the rumors are true about him going to upper! Only part people aren’t hearing is the dad didn’t move closer to family, he moved his family to upper from the canton/Massillon area only after the dad had his kid run with Massillon Jackson in a shoot out to see he didn’t fit in! This is nothing new continuously jumping teams in the aau side! McCreary is a great kid and a great player! Coach Winslow has no clue what’s he’s just inherited with the McCreary kids father!

[dude]

Yes, because Colonel Crawford is the only school to have experience dealing with parents. Dumbfarmer, the Mccrearys left Jackson 8-10 years ago.

[royalballdad]

Don’t know the parents. The kid has been at Crawford since the 3rd or 4th grade. My youngest follows him on Twitter and pretty sure he has been with the same aau team since 6th grade the Mid Ohio Puma.

[Willard Fillmore]

I think he was talking about the older brother. Surely you haven't forgotten him already.

[dumbfarmer]

Nope was talking about younger McCreary, yes they moved here 10 years ago from Jackson, the move that I mentioned was last month and he the younger brother ran with Jackson in a shoot out this past June! Dude your correct but how many different teams within the pumas?!!!

[royalballdad]

Not sure you have your facts straight DF.
From what I have heard, the family has not moved to Upper yet.
Pretty certain the kid didn't run with Jackson this summer. He was with Crawford all June.
And looking at twitter / facebook - he looks to be with the same puma team since the 6th grade.
Not sure he will even be at Upper until someone sees him at school, which starts tomorrow.

[fbfan]

Aug 21, 2018 15:11:05 GMT -5 royalballdad said:

Not sure you have your facts straight DF.
From what I have heard, the family has not moved to Upper yet.
Pretty certain the kid didn't run with Jackson this summer. He was with Crawford all June.
And looking at twitter / facebook - he looks to be with the same puma team since the 6th grade.
Not sure he will even be at Upper until someone sees him at school, which starts tomorrow.

Obviously someone doesn't have their facts straight. You reported this in a previous post:

 "Family moved to Upper and kid enrolled due to a Grandparent being at Long Term Care Facility in Upper. My buddy, his wife and others have seen him and his family multiple times at the Care Facility, School and around Town."

[royalballdad]

Yes - I did. And the facts as they were told to me were correct.
The family and kid have been seen in Upper - again by individuals that my family & I know.
Grandparent is definitely in Upper at an Old Folks Facility south of town.
But according to what I have heard recently, the family is not actually in a home in Upper.
And yes - I did hear the kid was enrolled.
As someone else said, I will believe it when the kid is in the hallways at the school.

[hookshot]

Lot of hulibloo over a kids family making a change. Did he want to leave Crawford where he was top dog. Probably not. Are the parents a handful well obviously from past experiences.
A few simple things are factual. Grandparent is at nursing home in Upper.
He is enrolled at Upper for 2018.
Parents are renting a house not purchasing like was reported.
I highly doubt Coach Winslow cares what the parents think or say. He has dealt with problem parents plenty in his tenure at Upper.
Dumbfarmer you are coming off as a upset parent of a Crawford player who is butt hurt he left.

[dumbfarmer]

Hookshot, Not Hardly!!!

[dude]

From what I have heard, the kid is making new friends quickly and already knew some from playing ball. Every high school kid is forced to move when their parents make that decision so it's nothing new. The kid will be okay and being a good player will help him fit in except for the guy whose spot he takes. I would predict the Upper coach knows all about the parents as coaches talk, specially coaches in the same league.

[purefan]

Will crawford miss the kid....yes
Will crawford’s team chemistry be better...yes
Are crawford fans/parents upset? .. probably
Is the real reason he is at upper is because of father..yes
Will the switching of schools lead to the kid playing in
C-bus like the dad thinks it will? One gigantic NO!!

[dude]

I'll play along.....
Will Crawford miss him? .. they miss every player that graduates. Some say last year was their year with Shaum and Martin.
Crawford had bad chemistry?.. most would take it if they go 18-4
Are the Crawford parents/fans upset?.. who cares
Most kids move because of a father wants to. .. nothing new
Will switching schools help recruiting? .. who has ever been recruited from Crawford?

[royalballdad]

Aug 21, 2018 20:03:49 GMT -5 purefan said:

Will crawford miss the kid....yes
Will crawford’s team chemistry be better...yes
Are crawford fans/parents upset? .. probably
Is the real reason he is at upper is because of father..yes
Will the switching of schools lead to the kid playing in
C-bus like the dad thinks it will? One gigantic NO!!

Crawford will miss the kid - agree yes.
But Crawford will still be very good and should compete for a District Title
Crawfords team chemistry better - not sure it will be better. All depends on their senior leadership.
Crawford will miss the kids 8 assists per game. A lot of players scored with him the court. 
Crawford fans/parents shouldn't be upset - it is HS Basketball and Crawford will still be very good.
The reason the kid is at Upper - definitely the parents. Made a family decision to be close to a grandparent.
Will Upper get to Columbus in the next two years - probably not. 
Their chances certainly will be helped by this kid playing. 
Will the kid benefit from playing in Winslow's system - "One gigantic YES!!" 

[gibby23]

Has anyone spotted him in school at Upper yet this morning?

[purefan]

Aug 22, 2018 6:15:13 GMT -5 royalballdad said:

Aug 21, 2018 20:03:49 GMT -5 purefan said:

Will crawford miss the kid....yes
Will crawford’s team chemistry be better...yes
Are crawford fans/parents upset? .. probably
Is the real reason he is at upper is because of father..yes
Will the switching of schools lead to the kid playing in
C-bus like the dad thinks it will? One gigantic NO!!

Crawford will miss the kid - agree yes.
But Crawford will still be very good and should compete for a District Title
Crawfords team chemistry better - not sure it will be better. All depends on their senior leadership.
Crawford will miss the kids 8 assists per game. A lot of players scored with him the court. 
Crawford fans/parents shouldn't be upset - it is HS Basketball and Crawford will still be very good.
The reason the kid is at Upper - definitely the parents. Made a family decision to be close to a grandparent.
Will Upper get to Columbus in the next two years - probably not. 
Their chances certainly will be helped by this kid playing. 
Will the kid benefit from playing in Winslow's system - "One gigantic YES!!" 

I would agree with most of your thoughts however lets be clear. The move had very little to do with being close to grandparents as where they were living in wynford school district since last winter was not more than 20 to 25 min from old folks home. It has everything to do with your last statement of playing in winslow’s system and getting away from sheldon’s “sets”. The dad must have memory loss as by my recolection his oldest son made his name by knocking down all them 3’s off of those sets. I also disagree that the crawford community shouldnt be at least a lttle “salty” as many people went above and beyond to make the families transition from jackson years ago a positive one as im sure uppers community will do now as well.
Those 2 games this winter should be worth the price of admission!!

[dude]

Aug 22, 2018 11:04:02 GMT -5 purefan said:

Aug 22, 2018 6:15:13 GMT -5 royalballdad said:

I would agree with most of your thoughts however lets be clear. The move had very little to do with being close to grandparents as where they were living in wynford school district since last winter was not more than 20 to 25 min from old folks home. It has everything to do with your last statement of playing in winslow’s system and getting away from sheldon’s “sets”. The dad must have memory loss as by my recolection his oldest son made his name by knocking down all them 3’s off of those sets. I also disagree that the crawford community shouldnt be at least a lttle “salty” as many people went above and beyond to make the families transition from jackson years ago a positive one as im sure uppers community will do now as well.
Those 2 games this winter should be worth the price of admission!!

Tell us if 20-25 minutes of travel makes a difference when it is your parent being placed in assisted living.