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Post by Green Falcon on Sept 20, 2019 10:38:52 GMT -5
Forbes released their list of hghest valued CFB teams.
1. Texas A&M 94m profit 147m revenue 2. Texas 92m profit 147m revenue 3. Michigan 83m profit 139m revenue 6. Ohio state 75m profit 132m revenue
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 20, 2019 12:49:05 GMT -5
Forbes released their list of hghest valued CFB teams. 1. Texas A&M 94m profit 147m revenue 2. Texas 92m profit 147m revenue 3. Michigan 83m profit 139m revenue 6. Ohio state 75m profit 132m revenue LOL............
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Post by kritz on Sept 21, 2019 12:24:06 GMT -5
Michigan looks horrid🤣
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Post by purefan on Sept 21, 2019 13:21:41 GMT -5
Might be understatement of the year. How much longer does JH keep his job?
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 21, 2019 13:36:41 GMT -5
Just like last year, grossly over-rated....both the team, coach Harbaugh and his QB. They're not playing Army today....lol
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Post by DrTorch on Sept 21, 2019 13:42:19 GMT -5
Joe Burrow might mess around and get a Heisman.
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Post by kritz on Sept 21, 2019 13:45:16 GMT -5
That last targeting hit🤢
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 21, 2019 14:27:37 GMT -5
I hate the rule as it is presently layed out. To throw a kid out of the game for an unintentional, inadvertent hit that involved helmet to helmet, that was unavoidable, because of just plain inertia. I've got serious problems with game ejections for such instances...and we see it all the time. Blatant and purposeful targeting, eject the player, otherwise invoke a warning and a 15 yd. penalty and automatic 1st down.
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Post by kritz on Sept 21, 2019 15:05:55 GMT -5
I thought the first one was a stretch but the 2nd where the other safety hit him with his shoulder was dirty IMO. I hope they don't try that with OSU.
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Post by maplecityjake on Sept 21, 2019 17:41:39 GMT -5
Michigan Football is delicious. I wish I could be serious with this post.
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Post by Green Falcon on Sept 30, 2019 14:02:45 GMT -5
The California bill has passed and signed into law
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 30, 2019 14:50:26 GMT -5
The California bill has passed and signed into law NCAA will be putting an immediate injunction on this controversial legislation. This thing will be in the courts for a long time.
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Post by Green Falcon on Sept 30, 2019 16:35:01 GMT -5
The California bill has passed and signed into law NCAA will be putting an immediate injunction on this controversial legislation. This thing will be in the courts for a long time. Well it does not go into affect until 2023 so only time will tell
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Post by DrTorch on Sept 30, 2019 23:51:50 GMT -5
The California bill has passed and signed into law NCAA will be putting an immediate injunction on this controversial legislation. This thing will be in the courts for a long time. ROFL! no, it won't
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 1, 2019 15:05:01 GMT -5
NCAA will be putting an immediate injunction on this controversial legislation. This thing will be in the courts for a long time. Well it does not go into affect until 2023 so only time will tell Well the state of Florida legislature is considering a similar law that would go into affect in 2020.
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Post by Green Falcon on Oct 1, 2019 16:13:54 GMT -5
Interesting side note, the California law allows student athletes to only sign endorsement deals that are the same brand as the school. Something that is really already happening with elite youth basketball albeit hush hush.
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Post by Green Falcon on Oct 1, 2019 16:22:52 GMT -5
Well it does not go into affect until 2023 so only time will tell Well the state of Florida legislature is considering a similar law that would go into affect in 2020. The Florida law does not allow colleges, conferences or other related bodies to pay athletes. The athletes can hire agents, have endorsements and other similar scenarios. Since this bill would go into law much sooner if passed into law then we'll really see what happens regarding the NCAA. You can read it here www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=66760
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 2, 2019 16:16:54 GMT -5
Ohio now considering its own law concerning college athlete's being paid. It will be a real mess if every state passes differing legislation. The NCAA will be looked to, to come up with a consensus. As much as some don't like the NCAA, they would be far better in adjudicating then the federal government getting involved.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 2, 2019 16:54:44 GMT -5
Ohio now considering its own law concerning college athlete's being paid. It will be a real mess if every state passes differing legislation. The NCAA will be looked to, to come up with a consensus. As much as some don't like the NCAA, they would be far better in adjudicating then the federal government getting involved. Great opportunity to regulate, tax, and redistribute. Just what the California legislature has in mind.
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Post by Green Falcon on Oct 2, 2019 17:16:17 GMT -5
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 2, 2019 19:58:22 GMT -5
Government interference in collegiate athletics and blatant impositions on the NCAA, is wrought with disaster for amateur athletics. Is anyone so naive to think it will simply end with these recent or pending enactments?
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Post by heresjim on Oct 2, 2019 22:01:30 GMT -5
Government interference in collegiate athletics and blatant impositions on the NCAA, is wrought with disaster for amateur athletics. Is anyone so naive to think it will simply end with these recent or pending enactments? I think everyone is aware that the age of amateur athletics at the collegiate level is likely over. We'll just have to get used to it.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 3, 2019 6:10:14 GMT -5
Government interference in collegiate athletics and blatant impositions on the NCAA, is wrought with disaster for amateur athletics. Is anyone so naive to think it will simply end with these recent or pending enactments? I think everyone is aware that the age of amateur athletics at the collegiate level is likely over. We'll just have to get used to it. Wish it were as simple as 'getting used to it'. What California legislators are attempting to create is student/athlete income disparity, where the current stars of the day, will enjoy large payouts and the rest will settle for the current status quo. Guess what their next complaint will be? Yep, income disparity....lol What it comes down to, is hack politicians sticking their noses in areas out of their realm. Again, it will be most interesting on which course of action taken by the NCAA. Whatever route they take, California has certainly forced their hand. I think there may be a strong possibility, the NCAA will change their rules to allow player compensation for player endorsement, but impose a stipulation that all money payments be delayed till the athlete leaves college or put in a trust fund till the athletes departure from college. This would satisfy both worlds and still maintain the amateur status of NCAA athletics, as it stands today.
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 3, 2019 7:48:07 GMT -5
dude the NCAA will get off their fat lazy ***** and do what they should have been doing since the Ed O'Bannon debacle, which is work with the Federal Government to work on a National Law instead of 50 different State Laws, they have had 20 years to get on top of this and have done NOTHING
Jim Delaney's press release was the blathering of an idiot. Embarrassing.
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Post by mcm1019 on Oct 3, 2019 8:14:34 GMT -5
Curious to see how all of this works out. So if I'm "making money" now as a college athlete, am I also still getting my full ride scholarship? And what happens when the QB is making more than the rest of the team? And what happens when the male athletes are making more than the female athletes? Seems like a can of worms to me.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 3, 2019 8:58:13 GMT -5
dude the NCAA will get off their fat lazy bum bum holes and do what they should have been doing since the Ed O'Bannon debacle, which is work with the Federal Government to work on a National Law instead of 50 different State Laws, they have had 20 years to get on top of this and have done NOTHING Jim Delaney's press release was the blathering of an idiot. Embarrassing. The government has no business involving themselves and actually they are not, a few rogue states, with California in the lead. The next thing they will want to unionize. We are certainly at the crossroad of either preserving amateur athletics or destroying the basic framework and principles that has successful guided amateur athletics in this country for over a century. Those that are proposing these measures are fully aware of the possible consequences and they could care less. Which would be ultimately, a money driven chaos, in which greedy lawyers would profit immensely and guess who the politicians drafting this language....you guessed it, lawyers elected to office. I can easily see a collapse of present day rules, deteriating into a scenario, where the highest bidders would be a major driving factor in the recruiting process and loyalties would be monetary in nature. I'm not willing to blow up all the good that we now have, with ethics, principles and fairness the driving force of the NCAA's existence.
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Post by heresjim on Oct 3, 2019 9:07:55 GMT -5
I think everyone is aware that the age of amateur athletics at the collegiate level is likely over. We'll just have to get used to it. Wish it were as simple as 'getting used to it'. What California legislators are attempting to create is student/athlete income disparity, where the current stars of the day, will enjoy large payouts and the rest will settle for the current status quo. Guess what their next complaint will be? Yep, income disparity....lol What it comes down to, is hack politicians sticking their noses in areas out of their realm. Again, it will be most interesting on which course of action taken by the NCAA. Whatever route they take, California has certainly forced their hand. I think there may be a strong possibility, the NCAA will change their rules to allow player compensation for player endorsement, but impose a stipulation that all money payments be delayed till the athlete leaves college or put in a trust fund till the athletes departure from college. This would satisfy both worlds and still maintain the amateur status of NCAA athletics, as it stands today. Every sports league has income disparity and they deal with it... Kids know they can play for less and actually get an opportunity to play, or they don't play at all (either because the school cuts sports or because they refuse to pay them). Honestly, I think we, as a society, should prepare for the death of collegiate athletics in the future. Kids should focus on academics when they are in school and a varsity sport that eats up dozen of hours a week hurts their ability to take advantage of opportunities. Not to mention that many of those kids shouldn't be in the schools in the first place due to them having lower average gpa and test scores. Sports that demand the hours of a full time job should be treated like a full time job. And those sports players should be employees only, not students. If they generate money, those players should be compensated for the value they bring, and if they don't, they won't be able to justify their existence lol.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 3, 2019 9:23:40 GMT -5
Wish it were as simple as 'getting used to it'. What California legislators are attempting to create is student/athlete income disparity, where the current stars of the day, will enjoy large payouts and the rest will settle for the current status quo. Guess what their next complaint will be? Yep, income disparity....lol What it comes down to, is hack politicians sticking their noses in areas out of their realm. Again, it will be most interesting on which course of action taken by the NCAA. Whatever route they take, California has certainly forced their hand. I think there may be a strong possibility, the NCAA will change their rules to allow player compensation for player endorsement, but impose a stipulation that all money payments be delayed till the athlete leaves college or put in a trust fund till the athletes departure from college. This would satisfy both worlds and still maintain the amateur status of NCAA athletics, as it stands today. Every sports league has income disparity and they deal with it... Kids know they can play for less and actually get an opportunity to play, or they don't play at all (either because the school cuts sports or because they refuse to pay them). Honestly, I think we, as a society, should prepare for the death of collegiate athletics in the future. Kids should focus on academics when they are in school and a varsity sport that eats up dozen of hours a week hurts their ability to take advantage of opportunities. Not to mention that many of those kids shouldn't be in the schools in the first place due to them having lower average gpa and test scores. Sports that demand the hours of a full time job should be treated like a full time job. And those sports players should be employees only, not students. If they generate money, those players should be compensated for the value they bring, and if they don't, they won't be able to justify their existence lol. Perhaps your mind is locked into MLB, NBA or NFL. There is no earned income in amateur athletics, thus no disparity. I don't understand your defeatist attitude, calling for and resigning to the 'death of collegiate athletics'. Doesn't sound that you really care about collegiate athletics, we'll just eliminate and 'stick to just academics' makes no sense. I'm sorry, your post makes absolutely no sense.
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Post by heresjim on Oct 3, 2019 9:54:41 GMT -5
Every sports league has income disparity and they deal with it... Kids know they can play for less and actually get an opportunity to play, or they don't play at all (either because the school cuts sports or because they refuse to pay them). Honestly, I think we, as a society, should prepare for the death of collegiate athletics in the future. Kids should focus on academics when they are in school and a varsity sport that eats up dozen of hours a week hurts their ability to take advantage of opportunities. Not to mention that many of those kids shouldn't be in the schools in the first place due to them having lower average gpa and test scores. Sports that demand the hours of a full time job should be treated like a full time job. And those sports players should be employees only, not students. If they generate money, those players should be compensated for the value they bring, and if they don't, they won't be able to justify their existence lol. Perhaps your mind is locked into MLB, NBA or NFL. There is no earned income in amateur athletics, thus no disparity. I don't understand your defeatist attitude, calling for and resigning to the 'death of collegiate athletics'. Doesn't sound that you really care about collegiate athletics, we'll just eliminate and 'stick to just academics' makes no sense. I'm sorry, your post makes absolutely no sense. Any particular reason why it makes no sense? That is usually the response I get when people just make the assumption that college athletics have to exist.... It doesn't... This is about human beings. There are hundreds of thousands of kids who are devoting hours on end pursuing a goal (going d1) that they never will accomplish it (and getting injured and missing opportunities along the way). And even if they do, a very small fraction of them are actually going to benefit when it comes time to enter the work force. That time and energy can be used in other endeavors that can set them up better for success in life. I'm not saying "get rid of sports" (considering I benefitted from playing, and I love watching them), but it should not consume most people's lives if it isn't going to be useful for them later on. We can build a culture on other more productive things, and enable kids to partake in other fields they are more suited for. Just imagine if we valued a kid's ability to code just as much as we valued a kid's ability to put a ball through a hoop for example...
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 3, 2019 11:05:31 GMT -5
Perhaps your mind is locked into MLB, NBA or NFL. There is no earned income in amateur athletics, thus no disparity. I don't understand your defeatist attitude, calling for and resigning to the 'death of collegiate athletics'. Doesn't sound that you really care about collegiate athletics, we'll just eliminate and 'stick to just academics' makes no sense. I'm sorry, your post makes absolutely no sense. Any particular reason why it makes no sense? That is usually the response I get when people just make the assumption that college athletics have to exist.... It doesn't... This is about human beings. There are hundreds of thousands of kids who are devoting hours on end pursuing a goal (going d1) that they never will accomplish it (and getting injured and missing opportunities along the way). And even if they do, a very small fraction of them are actually going to benefit when it comes time to enter the work force. That time and energy can be used in other endeavors that can set them up better for success in life. I'm not saying "get rid of sports" (considering I benefitted from playing, and I love watching them), but it should not consume most people's lives if it isn't going to be useful for them later on. We can build a culture on other more productive things, and enable kids to partake in other fields they are more suited for. Just imagine if we valued a kid's ability to code just as much as we valued a kid's ability to put a ball through a hoop for example... You've pretty much explained your opinion and I have no problem with that whatsoever. With your attitude or slant on college athletics, makes me ask why you would even waste your time on a site such as this? It's obvious, you have a rather low esteem for athletics and athletes, even though you profess to have been a college athlete yourself. My view, athletics is an integral part of the mind, body and soul and making the assumption that most college athletes are academically deficient or inferior to student attending purely for academic purposes, is a poor assumption. I think quite the opposite. A student athlete has rigors, far more demanding than one that is 100% occupied with their studies. The early rises, weight room, special diets, fitness training, intense practices, studying and memorizing the playbooks, dealing with all sorts of inclement weather, battling physical and mental fatigue and attending classes and late night study sessions, when they are bone tired. That takes a specially motivated person, that goes well beyond the demands of your regular academic student.
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