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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 21, 2020 16:18:40 GMT -5
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Post by Green Falcon on Mar 1, 2020 15:18:28 GMT -5
BG has submitted an application. Could be a possibility they end up in the league. Similar size and competition level. The disparity between Anthony Wayne and Perrysburg must finally be enough.
Not too much history between BG and the current lake schools. Norwalk played them in football in the 60's as well as a playoff game in 2018. Bellevue goes to their track invite. They played Columbian and Perkins in basketball this year. Columbian, BG and Sandusky were all apart of the Buckeye League.
Could this open up the door for Fremont Ross into the league?
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 1, 2020 15:59:23 GMT -5
There definitely is interest, or maybe curiosity is a better word, from BG but not an application. Don't discount their superintendent is quite familiar with the SBC/NOL teams as a coach and administrator. I don't think it gets further than this. A strategic ploy to get the ball moving in that area? Possibly. Just do not see them (and Maumee) making the move when it's all said and done. And no...Fremont is still a no. Much bigger than Maumee and BG.
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Post by Green Falcon on Mar 1, 2020 16:12:14 GMT -5
There definitely is interest, or maybe curiosity is a better word, from BG but not an application. Don't discount their superintendent is quite familiar with the SBC/NOL teams as a coach and administrator. I don't think it gets further than this. A strategic ploy to get the ball moving in that area? Possibly. Just do not see them (and Maumee) making the move when it's all said and done. And no...Fremont is still a no. Much bigger than Maumee and BG. BG would be the biggest in the SBC, which would be the biggest downside. They are currently over 300 boys behind Perrysburg and almost 200 behind AW. While only 90 behind Fremont. Whether in the SBC or not I'm sure BG would much rather have Fremont on schedules than the previous two.
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 1, 2020 16:51:25 GMT -5
Well, yeah.
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 2, 2020 16:14:41 GMT -5
BG has submitted an application. Could be a possibility they end up in the league. Similar size and competition level. The disparity between Anthony Wayne and Perrysburg must finally be enough. Not too much history between BG and the current lake schools. Norwalk played them in football in the 60's as well as a playoff game in 2018. Bellevue goes to their track invite. They played Columbian and Perkins in basketball this year. Columbian, BG and Sandusky were all apart of the Buckeye League. Could this open up the door for Fremont Ross into the league? Norwalk played BG in Boys Basketball tournament in the past; 1989 being one. BG had upset Willard in Sandusky Sectional.
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Post by distantflier on Mar 7, 2020 23:20:18 GMT -5
Ran some enrollment numbers for Bowling Green and the Lake Division schools. These numbers come from the OHSAA for classification purposes. They are the totals from Grades 9, 10, 11 on 31 October 2018. The numbers below are for both boys and girls combined.
BG would only be marginally larger (714) than Sandusky (693), Tiffin Columbian (644), and Norwalk (621). They are all within 100 students of each other. Then, there is a 100+ student gap between Norwalk and Clyde (515). Only 40 students separate Clyde from Perkins (the smallest Lake Division school at 474).
The gap between Sandusky and Perkins (the current top and bottom) is 219.
Just for conversation, Fremont Ross stands at 853.
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Post by galion on Mar 8, 2020 0:02:22 GMT -5
Perkins is smaller than Bellevue now?
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Post by Green Falcon on Mar 8, 2020 11:35:42 GMT -5
Perkins is smaller than Bellevue now? on the girls side yes. Same enrollment for boys
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Post by Jahleh on Mar 11, 2020 16:16:21 GMT -5
What’s going on with all these conference changes... I see a lot of watered down leagues nowadays. These schools nowadays calculate every single move they do and make sure who to have on the schedule and who not to have on the schedule. What’s this teaching the kids? What happened to rolling the football out and playing some ball and not giving a rats a** who’s across from you. What is it, just want to make sure you have a 8-2 or 9-1 season so the kids parents can go to local donut shops or local corner stores and brag about the success.... Then get a** cleaned come playoff time. gentlemen and if there are any women on the forum.. you need to start playing the clydes, Bellevue’s, Sanduskys, Elyria Catholics of the world and having them on your schedule..... stop running from the competition... I’ve been seeing a lot of that over the years..... as always.....
Bake the p
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2020 21:39:06 GMT -5
Jolly, if you just moved here how do you know about the clydes, Bellevue's Sanduskys and Elyria Catholics??
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Post by chs71 on Mar 12, 2020 14:17:42 GMT -5
I talked with Bowling Green. BG and Maumee were approached by the SBC to join in an 8 school Lake division. BG would be the largest, by a little. Maumee is smaller than Sandusky, Columbian, and Norwalk.
BG is not interested. The travel distance from BG to the other NLL schools ranges from 10-31 miles. Mileage to the 6 largest Lake schools ranges from 41 to 61 miles.
I did not talk to Maumee, but previously I talked with a guy that knew a guy, and supposedly Maumee had already considered the SBC and decided it is just too far. Which makes sense as Maumee is even closer to the NLL schools and farther from the Lake.
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Post by jafo on Mar 12, 2020 15:12:09 GMT -5
It makes sense and is always good to hear from a guy who previously talked with a guy that knew a guy.
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Post by Green Falcon on Mar 12, 2020 15:34:43 GMT -5
At least the SBC is looking and not just sitting idly by
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 18:09:08 GMT -5
I have a hard in believing the SBC approached BG and Maumee. That's way to far on school nights
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 12, 2020 18:44:21 GMT -5
I have a hard in believing the SBC approached BG and Maumee. That's way to far on school nights Can confirm this did happen. The only way there is any movement is if Napoleon moves to the NWOAL and then Clay joins the NLL. That would change Maumee and potentially BG's feelings on the Lake. Likely not going to happen but that's the magical musical chairs right now.
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Post by Green Falcon on Mar 12, 2020 19:28:06 GMT -5
I have a hard in believing the SBC approached BG and Maumee. That's way to far on school nights Can confirm this did happen. The only way there is any movement is if Napoleon moves to the NWOAL and then Clay joins the NLL. That would change Maumee and potentially BG's feelings on the Lake. Likely not going to happen but that's the magical musical chairs right now. NWOAL is at a perfect 8 right now so that will take magic indeed
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Post by Jahleh on Mar 12, 2020 19:50:46 GMT -5
I have a hard in believing the SBC approached BG and Maumee. That's way to far on school nights I agree with you Mark. That’s stretching it a little too far.
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Post by chs71 on Mar 12, 2020 20:00:58 GMT -5
It makes sense and is always good to hear from a guy who previously talked with a guy that knew a guy. OK. I know a few coaches at Maumee and talked with one I have known for about 30 years. But it was awhile ago that we talked about the SBC. He gave me his assessment of what was happening there. I did not talk to anyone in a decision making position at Maumee.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 12, 2020 20:13:19 GMT -5
At least the SBC is looking and not just sitting idly by That'a the truth! Since the first day the SBC has been interested in adding more than a single school they've been open to ANY and ALL schools. From Richland County to Lucas Country. From the Central Highlands to Lake Erie. From Division I to Division IV. Looking for 24, ya'all come in!
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Post by jafo on Mar 12, 2020 22:43:45 GMT -5
It makes sense and is always good to hear from a guy who previously talked with a guy that knew a guy. OK. I know a few coaches at Maumee and talked with one I have known for about 30 years. But it was awhile ago that we talked about the SBC. He gave me his assessment of what was happening there. I did not talk to anyone in a decision making position at Maumee. I agree it's crazy for BG and Maumee to join the SBC and doubt it will happen. Nothing is going on for awhile so it's something to talk about.
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Post by chs71 on Mar 13, 2020 9:58:21 GMT -5
I have a hard in believing the SBC approached BG and Maumee. That's way to far on school nights You're right. It makes more sense that BG and Maumee who have no interest in joining the SBC were the ones who approached the SBC asking if they could join.
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Post by Jahleh on Mar 13, 2020 15:32:47 GMT -5
I have a hard in believing the SBC approached BG and Maumee. That's way to far on school nights You're right. It makes more sense that BG and Maumee who have no interest in joining the SBC were the ones who approached the SBC asking if they could join. Would it be beneficial at all for bg or maumee to join the SBC?
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Post by chs71 on Mar 13, 2020 18:35:56 GMT -5
You're right. It makes more sense that BG and Maumee who have no interest in joining the SBC were the ones who approached the SBC asking if they could join. Would it be beneficial at all for bg or maumee to join the SBC? Size and competition wise the answer is yes. Transportation times and expenses more than double though. For each of the Lake schools in would mean an long road trip 1 or 2 times a season. For BG and Maumee it would mean a long road trip 3 - 6 times a season.
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Post by Jahleh on Mar 14, 2020 9:26:59 GMT -5
Would it be beneficial at all for bg or maumee to join the SBC? Size and competition wise the answer is yes. Transportation times and expenses more than double though. For each of the Lake schools in would mean an long road trip 1 or 2 times a season. For BG and Maumee it would mean a long road trip 3 - 6 times a season. At what point do we say we’re trying to do way too much as a conference?
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Post by John on Mar 14, 2020 18:38:12 GMT -5
Changes are coming,good or bad,like it or not.In river division teams are forced to go 8 man or just cancel football.Case in point I foresee solid additions .I can see some bay teams drop down.l
In bay division I foresee clyde,perkins,bellevue going to bay division eventually simply based on numbers decline and participation .
In lake division I see Fremont joining with BG or clay sooner or later.Fremont ross has 850 kids in high school !! Someone posted 850 boys lol,no fremont has 454 boys in high school among which 399 are girls totaling 850.Sandusky has around 338 boys ,roughly 100 some less than ross.
Ball is in sbc court, by not making right decisions in relation to river simply proves instability in SBC and a number of teams in lake either has financial problems, numbers etc which leads me to my final point.By adding aforementioned teams you will bring the sbc stability top to bottom . .
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Post by Green Falcon on Mar 14, 2020 19:57:40 GMT -5
Changes are coming,good or bad,like it or not.In river division teams are forced to go 8 man or just cancel football.Case in point I foresee solid additions .I can see some bay teams drop down.l In bay division I foresee clyde,perkins,bellevue going to bay division eventually simply based on numbers decline and participation . In lake division I see Fremont joining with BG or clay sooner or later.Fremont ross has 850 kids in high school !! Someone posted 850 boys lol,no fremont has 454 boys in high school among which 399 are girls totaling 850.Sandusky has around 338 boys ,roughly 100 some less than ross. Ball is in sbc court, by not making right decisions in relation to river simply proves instability in SBC and a number of teams in lake either has financial problems, numbers etc which leads me to my final point.By adding aforementioned teams you will bring the sbc stability top to bottom . . The lake is stable, there's just only 6 schools in FB
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Post by redskinfan04 on Mar 14, 2020 21:51:04 GMT -5
The solution to all of this is and has been obvious for some time. There needs to be football only leagues created. These leagues would allow like to play with like but eliminates the excessive travel for the other sports these leagues may create.
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Post by richrod on Mar 15, 2020 13:37:18 GMT -5
The solution to all of this is and has been obvious for some time. There needs to be football only leagues created. These leagues would allow like to play with like but eliminates the excessive travel for the other sports these leagues may create. I think you are spot on with this assessment. It seems like a fairly simple answer to a complex problem. I for one would be for football only leagues.
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Post by chs71 on Mar 15, 2020 16:15:45 GMT -5
Changes are coming,good or bad,like it or not. I see Fremont joining with BG or clay sooner or later. . BG is not joining Ross and Clay in anything during your lifetime.
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