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Post by moacpops on Feb 1, 2020 7:09:34 GMT -5
The schedule difficulty picks up for Shelby. most of us who have watched the Whippets expected 4 Or more losses in the last month of the season. They have lost 2 or the expected 4.
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Post by averagejoe on Feb 1, 2020 7:45:17 GMT -5
Cheerleader for the OCC. I have no idea what a game between 2 DI teams has to do with the "Division II district at Mansfield Madison". what are you blah blah blahing about? The OCC did not have 2 D1 teams playing last night.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 1, 2020 8:36:59 GMT -5
When is the actual drawn for the district I was digging around figured someone on here could probably tell me quicker. Huge games next Sat. The 8th would guess it’s the following day?
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 1, 2020 9:00:09 GMT -5
Cheerleader for the OCC. I have no idea what a game between 2 DI teams has to do with the "Division II district at Mansfield Madison". what are you blah blah blahing about? The OCC did not have 2 D1 teams playing last night. Some of us brainfart from time to time and still think Senior is DI.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 1, 2020 9:04:24 GMT -5
When is the actual drawn for the district I was digging around figured someone on here could probably tell me quicker. Huge games next Sat. The 8th would guess it’s the following day? Seeding window closes at 11 AM on Sunday, February 9th with the draw that afternoon.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 1, 2020 15:17:23 GMT -5
Lots of big games coming up...
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Post by dude on Feb 2, 2020 11:33:14 GMT -5
what are you blah blah blahing about? The OCC did not have 2 D1 teams playing last night. Some of us brainfart from time to time and still think Senior is DI. Mansfield has been D2 for 3 years.
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Post by dude on Feb 2, 2020 11:34:11 GMT -5
Lots of big games coming up... Most of the local leagues have been decided, but league games still matter.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 2, 2020 11:51:14 GMT -5
Some of us brainfart from time to time and still think Senior is DI. Mansfield has been D2 for 3 years. it can be 5+ years and I'll and some others will brainfart.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 2, 2020 14:00:19 GMT -5
Upper a couple more gimmes and they WILL be the 1 seed Huron plays OH then Clyde split and they still will probably be the 2 seed lose both who knows where they end up Lexington plays a huge game v Norwalk next Sat winner could be as high as a 2 seed Shelby lost 2 straight and has a couple of league win and they can be as high as 2 falter who knows Norwalk beats Sandusky and Lex who knows lose them both they could be 6 Ontario win their last couple I guess will see what 20 point loss to Norwalk means...
Other games left that matter Lex needs to beat Senior and Shelby and Ontario need to finish off their league games
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 2, 2020 14:11:07 GMT -5
Mansfield has been D2 for 3 years. it can be 5+ years and I'll and some others will brainfart. First time in the history of the school they haven't been in the highest basketball Division
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 2, 2020 14:39:46 GMT -5
it can be 5+ years and I'll and some others will brainfart. First time in the history of the school they haven't been in the highest basketball Division It blows me away they were DI even before the merger with Malabar.
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Post by xlegend on Feb 2, 2020 14:44:48 GMT -5
First time in the history of the school they haven't been in the highest basketball Division It blows me away they were DI even before the merger with Malabar. what blows me away is that they were better before they consolidated.backvin the eighties both Malabar and sr.high were very good.i played against deprice Owens and ahmad Kent.im sure everyone also remembers bubba toddy.i could go on and on .I bet there's more athletes walking in the hallways than playing.. shameful if you ask me.
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 2, 2020 15:06:39 GMT -5
Upper a couple more gimmes and they WILL be the 1 seed Huron plays OH then Clyde split and they still will probably be the 2 seed lose both who knows where they end up Lexington plays a huge game v Norwalk next Sat winner could be as high as a 2 seed Shelby lost 2 straight and has a couple of league win and they can be as high as 2 falter who knows Norwalk beats Sandusky and Lex who knows lose them both they could be 6 Ontario win their last couple I guess will see what 20 point loss to Norwalk means... Other games left that matter Lex needs to beat Senior and Shelby and Ontario need to finish off their league games Upper probably a lock, but overall soft schedule like i said before doesn't matter.. Huron needs a two win weekend and they get #2, but i'd argue for #1 if they get two this weekend...if they lose out.. then it could be anyones guess..but i'd start leaning toward Lexington if they beat Norwalk,, or i would go with shelby still.. ontario still very dangerous to me as is norwalk ..
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Post by dude on Feb 2, 2020 17:43:02 GMT -5
Mansfield has been D2 for 3 years. it can be 5+ years and I'll and some others will brainfart. In that case at your age everything you say is with a brainfart.
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Post by dude on Feb 2, 2020 17:53:02 GMT -5
Upper a couple more gimmes and they WILL be the 1 seed Huron plays OH then Clyde split and they still will probably be the 2 seed lose both who knows where they end up Lexington plays a huge game v Norwalk next Sat winner could be as high as a 2 seed Shelby lost 2 straight and has a couple of league win and they can be as high as 2 falter who knows Norwalk beats Sandusky and Lex who knows lose them both they could be 6 Ontario win their last couple I guess will see what 20 point loss to Norwalk means... Other games left that matter Lex needs to beat Senior and Shelby and Ontario need to finish off their league games IMO for next weekends seeding spots. Upper for sure #1. Huron has a chance to drop but could gain a #2 spot going 2-0. Lexington at Norwalk is a big game for seeding but a huge game for Norwalk"s coach who was fired by Lex years ago. Take some major Losses from Huron and Shelby for Lex/Norwalk to get the #2. If Shelby recovers and goes 2-0 they get the #2. If Norwalk goes 2-0, without any crazy happenings, they can get as high as #2 but 0-2 most definitely gets them #6. Ontario should go 2-0 and be 14-5 and could get the #4 to the #6 spot as I feel their position is out of their control.
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Post by dude on Feb 2, 2020 17:58:55 GMT -5
First time in the history of the school they haven't been in the highest basketball Division It blows me away they were DI even before the merger with Malabar. The loss of manufacturing jobs hurt the most. Add in the vouchers given when Mansfield City Schools was in an emergency state, the large numbers to Ontario and Mansfield and they just do not have the numbers they used to. If you look at the city limit population you have to consider, that boundary include 3 private high schools and 3-4 public high schools and maybe a 5th. There are students living inside the city limits attending St Pete, Temple Christian, Mans. Christ, Mansfield Sr, Madison, Lexington, Crestview and maybe even Ontario. This does not include the transfer kids.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 2, 2020 21:00:36 GMT -5
Mansfield's 4 largest manufacturing plant closures happened 35-40 years before Mansfield Senior became a DII school in basketball. Mansfield Tire mid 1970's, Westinghouse 1990, Ohio Brass 1990, Tappan Co 1992. ALSO people from Shelby, Crestview, Madison, Ashland, Lexington, Ontario and Galion worked for those companies. Ohio's Open Enrollment program started in 1989, BUT has continued on since. Not every family qualifies for vouchers. ALL families qualify for Open Enrollment. Open Enrollment has hurt Senior and other similar districts more than any other component.
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Post by marchmadness on Feb 2, 2020 21:44:15 GMT -5
Upper will be 1 for sure. Their wins vs Shelby and Lex pardon them from the N10 schedule. Huron can still improve their resume with the Oak Harbor game, but I still think they are 2 due to Shelby's loss to Ashland. It will be very interesting to see where Ontario gets ranked by their peers (anywhere from 4-6). Assuming they win their two games this week, they will be sitting at 14-5 and have better records than Lex and Norwalk. However, Lex and Norwalk both beat Ontario by double figures. Also Ontario will be 11-0 vs teams with losing records and 3-5 vs teams with winning records. Those 3 wins are against teams (River Valley 2x and Kenton) whose records are a little deceiving because of some gimme wins in non league. I guess it just depends on how closely the coaches look at records/schedules/quality wins. I still think there are 7/11 teams that I would consider having a chance to get out of the district. Don't count out Mansfield Sr.
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Post by ohioraised on Feb 3, 2020 8:22:08 GMT -5
Mansfield's 4 largest manufacturing plant closures happened 35-40 years before Mansfield Senior became a DII school in basketball. Mansfield Tire mid 1970's, Westinghouse 1990, Ohio Brass 1990, Tappan Co 1992. ALSO people from Shelby, Crestview, Madison, Ashland, Lexington, Ontario and Galion worked for those companies. Ohio's Open Enrollment program started in 1989, BUT has continued on since. Not every family qualifies for vouchers. ALL families qualify for Open Enrollment. Open Enrollment has hurt Senior and other similar districts more than any other component. I was one of those numbers. Had lots of coworkers who stayed around but I did not and their grown family didn't.
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Post by malabar10 on Feb 4, 2020 8:54:33 GMT -5
it can be 5+ years and I'll and some others will brainfart. First time in the history of the school they haven't been in the highest basketball Division Uh no!! Courtesy of Davey 1 2019 results Mansfield Sr 73 Port Clinton 24 Mansfield Sr 47 Clear Fork 43 Vermilion 59 Mansfield Sr 51 2018 results Mansfield Sr 67 Port Clinton 47 Mansfield Sr 67 Clear Fork 57 Sandusky 56 Mansfield Sr 49 2017 results Sylvania NV 58 Mansfield Sr 46 (last time D1)
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 4, 2020 9:09:46 GMT -5
My D2 Final prediction of Upper vs Huron is looking solid I think.
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Post by malabar10 on Feb 4, 2020 9:45:39 GMT -5
It blows me away they were DI even before the merger with Malabar. what blows me away is that they were better before they consolidated.backvin the eighties both Malabar and sr.high were very good.i played against deprice Owens and ahmad Kent.im sure everyone also remembers bubba toddy.i could go on and on .I bet there's more athletes walking in the hallways than playing.. shameful if you ask me. Trust me in saying, there are NOT better athletes walking the halls at Senior High. The best 3 athletes all graduated early and left for college. All 3 would be starting on this year's team. Senior graduated 155 last year. Mansfield is an old town, population-wise. Families have matriculated to other cities and school districts for jobs. The glory days are gone, but there are outliers like this year's football team.
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Post by dude on Feb 4, 2020 9:58:29 GMT -5
My D2 Final prediction of Upper vs Huron is looking solid I think. If Huron wins both games this weekend they could get the #2 spot over Shelby to help make your prediction happen. If Shelby plays well and gets both they are probably the #2 as their schedule looks a little stronger. Huron has beaten on 6 teams with a winning record and 2 of them are D4 schools. I think Shelby gets the #2 spot and Huron has to pick who they play in the District Semi. A Upper and Shelby rematch could be an exciting District Final.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 4, 2020 10:42:35 GMT -5
That District is full of potential good game matchups from start to finish.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 4, 2020 19:21:12 GMT -5
First time in the history of the school they haven't been in the highest basketball Division Uh no!! Courtesy of Davey 1 2019 results Mansfield Sr 73 Port Clinton 24 Mansfield Sr 47 Clear Fork 43 Vermilion 59 Mansfield Sr 51 2018 results Mansfield Sr 67 Port Clinton 47 Mansfield Sr 67 Clear Fork 57 Sandusky 56 Mansfield Sr 49 2017 results Sylvania NV 58 Mansfield Sr 46 (last time D1) UH yes!! First time 2018 as Dude point out...and every year since.
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Post by smitty1974 on Feb 4, 2020 21:47:59 GMT -5
it looks like the shelby loss to ashland is a bad loss cause tonight ashland lost at home to a bad mansfield madison 49-48 withn a shotn at the buzzer.madison was the aggressor outshot shelby from the field and out rebounded ashland and held luke denbow to 5 points.even in a 2-3 zone the arrows were just standing around and the rams got underneath the basket a few times. ashland was playing better lately,but tonite they didnt and lost which didnt make shelby any better.so it looks like a very balanced district. as for mansfield senior they are a big ? after losing to sandusky 60-39 and has a game at lexington friday,i dont know if mansfield can score enough points.
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Post by dude on Feb 4, 2020 23:17:15 GMT -5
Strength of schedule normally does not factor much into the seeding. Most simply look at wins and losses.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 7, 2020 22:54:07 GMT -5
Lexington falls by 9 to Mansfield tonight, Norwalk beats Sandusky on the road, Huron blows a 20 point lead and falls to OH. Anybody know if Shelby beat Pleasant last night???
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 7, 2020 22:56:10 GMT -5
Lexington falls by 9 to Mansfield tonight, Norwalk beats Sandusky on the road, Huron blows a 20 point lead and falls to OH. Anybody know if Shelby beat Pleasant last night??? they already played pleasant twice..i think they play tomorrow vs clear fork
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