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Post by sportsjock on Dec 15, 2020 9:05:13 GMT -5
OSU's only shot at a playoff victory is if ND beats Clemson again and we get paired up with either USC or Cincy. No chance our defense holds up against the big boys. I hate to break it to you boys but our offense is not as lethal as our BIG opponents have made it look. Last seasons team was head and shoulders better than this one and we still couldn't handle Clemson. Gee, didn't realize we had such an over-rated, poorly coached and talent lacking team. Guess coach Day should withdraw consideration from the CFP and play someone more, down to our level, perhaps Southern Mississipi.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 15, 2020 10:33:03 GMT -5
here's the thing about the playoff everyone seems to be forgetting:
THERE IS NO CRITERIA FOR THEM TO CHOOSE THE 4 BEST TEAMS
they try to pick the 4 best teams, it's totally up to them, they have said before that is their ONLY criteria...so there are is no minimum games threshold for ANYONE
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 10:47:40 GMT -5
Alabama (10-0), Clemson (9-1), And Notre Dame 10-0) have played Twice as many games as We (Ohio State 5-0) have. I agree, I think we would lose big to Alabama, And Clemson. We could beat Noter Dame, And Texas A&M. Should beat Cincinnati, And USC. I'd love a rematch with Clemson, And beat the hell out of them, Dabo Swinney, and his boy T.Lawrence, (Like JT Barrett was to Urban). Then we'd have to play Alabama, Yuck! Let's just go to the Fiesta Bowl, Get our 18 Million dollars, And be Happy, I'd be satisfied with that.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 15, 2020 11:13:34 GMT -5
OSU's only shot at a playoff victory is if ND beats Clemson again and we get paired up with either USC or Cincy. No chance our defense holds up against the big boys. I hate to break it to you boys but our offense is not as lethal as our BIG opponents have made it look. Last seasons team was head and shoulders better than this one and we still couldn't handle Clemson. You're part of the gang that just couldn't shoot straight. In your scenario of ND beating Clemson twice, what part of that puts USC or Cincy in anything other than 4th, matching them against Bama? Ohio State would never be matched against either of those 2. Unless your gang thinks Bama is going to lose to Florida and Ohio State ends up #1 OR ND beating Clemson twice moves them ahead of Bama. AND you failed to mention the team MOST likely to move into #4, Texas A & M...ROFL! Ohio State had Clemson well "handled" until the officials got their "handles" on the game. Even then they still had a chance to win at the end if Fields and Olave read each others intentions.
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 15, 2020 12:27:00 GMT -5
If ND beats Clemson, ND will be 2 and OSU 3. The 4th team will get Bama and they aren't beating them. An X factor that is different from last year is that Fields is healthy. I guess we'll see how that plays out. Here is an interesting question. What is more important health or experience? Would you trade a few bumps and bruises for a game or two more reps? Obviously a big injury that limited arm strength or mobility would be bad. Teams have scrimmages for a reason. You risk injury to get reps and meaningless wins. OSU has had a lot fewer reps than everyone else in the discussion. All the talking heads on ESPN are talking about OSU being more fresh. What’s everyone’s opinion on health to rep ratio?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 15, 2020 12:37:39 GMT -5
These are kids and young men. Playing 12 games vs 6 is minimal "freshness" compared to the NFL teams that could play 20 AND have preseason games.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 15, 2020 17:39:38 GMT -5
Let the hosts at ESPN do what they do, endless talking points to stir up interesting discussions. Fact of the matter, Coach Day and every single one of his players and assistants would like nothing more than to take every single injury risk, if they could simply play their full slate of games. As expected, idiots trying to twist things against the Buckeyes, for something, they have no control over. The defense has taken a lot of heat and if you may recall, the 2014 team was the target of criticism. They put it all together post season and the rest is history. This team is not lacking talent, but so inexperienced and will soon show us the nature of their learning curve.
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 15, 2020 22:13:59 GMT -5
My point was every snap a kid takes makes him a little better, but it also takes a toll on his body. If it didn’t they’d play 2-3 games a week like college basketball. When it’s all said and done OSU will have played about 60% of the games everyone else played give or take. Is fresher a better advantage or experience? We’ve never had a situation where one potential National Champion contender played that many fewer games.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 16, 2020 7:40:31 GMT -5
My point was every snap a kid takes makes him a little better, but it also takes a toll on his body. If it didn’t they’d play 2-3 games a week like college basketball. When it’s all said and done OSU will have played about 60% of the games everyone else played give or take. Is fresher a better advantage or experience? We’ve never had a situation where one potential National Champion contender played that many fewer games. You pose some very good points! Obviously, injuries haven't entered the quotient, but the Covid certainly took it's place, in a big way. Actually there is no difference, both leave the player unavailable. What has been quite apparent, the game deprivation, has made these kids very hungry and excited to play football, when the opportunity presents itself and yes, they are very fresh...lol Coach Day's staff, has been coaching the living hell out of these kids, trying as they may, to counter the lack of actual game experience. Given all these factors, where does this unprecedented set of circumstances, leave Ohio State? A net gain or net loss....nobody really knows, at this point.
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 16, 2020 11:41:22 GMT -5
Rumors that either Olave or Wilson is out for covid, which means they will also be out for the playoffs. That would be a huge impact against either Clemson or ND.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 16, 2020 12:25:31 GMT -5
well signing day seems to be going ok lolz
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Post by baldref on Dec 16, 2020 13:37:03 GMT -5
Rumors that either Olave or Wilson is out for covid, which means they will also be out for the playoffs. That would be a huge impact against either Clemson or ND. Heard the same thing from my contact at OSU. More to follow
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 16, 2020 13:46:21 GMT -5
Big Ten needs to change the 21 day rule, especially when CDC is saying 7 and 10.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 16, 2020 14:07:58 GMT -5
There was some discussion that the B1G was going to take a look at the 21 day rule and perhaps change it to something similar to the SEC's. I think losing Wilson would be more damaging for the offense. They are very deep and talented at WR. The absence of either is a terrible loss, but the slot man is key.
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Post by buckeyekid on Dec 16, 2020 14:46:30 GMT -5
Olave seems to be the one I'm seeing that has some smoke.
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 16, 2020 15:02:48 GMT -5
Olave seems to be the one I'm seeing that has some smoke. Not good.
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Post by buckeyekid on Dec 18, 2020 9:28:44 GMT -5
I'm about 90% sure Olave is out. The question being considered now is,,if and when we beat NW and qualify for the playoffs(arrogant I suppose, but our firepower is way beyond NW defensive ability to stop us) when would Olave be allowed to participate in pratice and games? Reading today the 21 day rule is being switched perhaps to 17.
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Post by dude on Dec 18, 2020 9:58:39 GMT -5
I'm about 90% sure Olave is out. The question being considered now is,,if and when we beat NW and qualify for the playoffs(arrogant I suppose, but our firepower is way beyond NW defensive ability to stop us) when would Olave be allowed to participate in pratice and games? Reading today the 21 day rule is being switched perhaps to 17. Hard to believe a rule dealing with Covid that was made in Aug-Sept is still being supported today. The information is changing daily and guidelines are being altered weekly.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 18, 2020 10:42:18 GMT -5
CDC recommends 10 days. Big Ten "scientists" decreed 21 days
I trust Big Ten "scientists" after all they made the wise decision to move the Big Ten season back into flu season instead up into the summer early fall. The Big Ten is well led.
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Post by dude on Dec 18, 2020 10:46:35 GMT -5
CDC recommends 10 days. Big Ten "scientists" decreed 21 days I trust Big Ten "scientists" after all they made the wise decision to move the Big Ten season back into flu season instead up into the summer early fall. The Big Ten is well led. CDC also says 7 days with a negative test is acceptable.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 18, 2020 11:46:13 GMT -5
I'm about 90% sure Olave is out. The question being considered now is,,if and when we beat NW and qualify for the playoffs(arrogant I suppose, but our firepower is way beyond NW defensive ability to stop us) when would Olave be allowed to participate in pratice and games? Reading today the 21 day rule is being switched perhaps to 17. Interesting....the change to 17, a 4 day change, looks like it will make Olave eligible the day before the game. Let the whining by Ohio State haters begin .
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 18, 2020 12:32:01 GMT -5
When the season was reinstated, Kevin Warren said they did it because information had changed and new data supported it. So now months have gone by, tons of new data is available, but the 21 day rule is still in effect. Makes lots of sense.
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Post by ebgames on Dec 18, 2020 16:27:52 GMT -5
From a source who says he knows, and was accurate with the MSU player list as well:
Players out for tomorrow are Olave, Smith-Njigba, Browning, Chrisman, and coaches Hartline and Washington. Sounds like Browning being out is questionable.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 18, 2020 17:05:35 GMT -5
Northwestern has no one out?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 18, 2020 18:55:01 GMT -5
They care more
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 19:49:27 GMT -5
Northwestern has no one out? Northwestern hasn’t had a single positive test all season
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 18, 2020 20:57:16 GMT -5
Kevin Warren has recently said it is important to remain flexible, something he claims to have been saying since the beginning, when he cancelled the season and said that starting the B10 season would not be revisited.
He is a moron.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 18, 2020 21:24:55 GMT -5
Warren might be a moron, but he did not "cancel the season". He was nothing more than a mouth for the University Presidents, they made the decision, he announced it. Jim Delaney might have stood up to them, but Warren was a rookie and wanted the job for more than 6 months.
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Post by ScarletFever on Dec 19, 2020 0:02:18 GMT -5
Northwestern has no one out? Studying is socially distant
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Post by ebgames on Dec 19, 2020 0:07:47 GMT -5
Buckeyes and NW clear final testing hurdle. Game on officially.
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