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Post by bat21 on Feb 22, 2021 8:23:32 GMT -5
Willardians getting the same 2 for 1 ticket deal at away games?? 24 tickets only for league championship at Margaretta
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Post by perwalk on Feb 22, 2021 19:42:40 GMT -5
In the last 50 basketball seasons Willard is (799-360), a win in the Sectional Semi vs Edison will be the 800th win in the last 50 years. That's a 16-7 avg record over the last 50 years. Last 50 years 24 Conference Championships 9 Conference Runner-ups Vogel is BACK circa 2000’s...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 11:37:02 GMT -5
Willardians getting the same 2 for 1 ticket deal at away games?? 24 tickets only for league championship at Margaretta that's laughable, did they give any reason?
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 24, 2021 8:26:46 GMT -5
Paxton, Pinkston 1st team SBC Addelman 2nd team SBC A salute to these 3 kids as they just have improved each year playing Varsity Hoops. Hoping for a nice Tournament ride as they lead us starting tonight vs Edison. Well done guys !
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Post by juju on Feb 24, 2021 10:39:44 GMT -5
Paxton, Pinkston 1st team SBC Addelman 2nd team SBC A salute to these 3 kids as they just have improved each year playing Varsity Hoops. Hoping for a nice Tournament ride as they lead us starting tonight vs Edison. Well done guys ! great players and even better kids off the floor. Proud of these guys. Hope they go far in the tournament dispute their tough district.
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Post by bat21 on Feb 25, 2021 8:28:11 GMT -5
24 tickets only for league championship at Margaretta that's laughable, did they give any reason? Not that I've heard. Basically it was varsity parents only. Coaches families couldn't even attend in an attempt to get parents in. Laughable doesn't even come close to describing it
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Post by brutaltruth on Feb 25, 2021 8:54:20 GMT -5
Even funnier was the Marg mom quoting missed calls by the page and rule number to the refs. You almost couldn't tell she was a former ref. But calling the refs by their first names was a nice touch.
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2021 8:58:38 GMT -5
that's laughable, did they give any reason? Not that I've heard. Basically it was varsity parents only. Coaches families couldn't even attend in an attempt to get parents in. Laughable doesn't even come close to describing it
Does that have anything to do with the Marg seating capacity? Isn't OHSAA still recommending 15%?
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Post by crimson5 on Feb 25, 2021 9:33:43 GMT -5
Not that I've heard. Basically it was varsity parents only. Coaches families couldn't even attend in an attempt to get parents in. Laughable doesn't even come close to describing it
Does that have anything to do with the Marg seating capacity? Isn't OHSAA still recommending 15%? In part, I would agree. Just guessing, their gym probably seats around 700. 15% would be just over 100 total fans. 75 tickets for them...25 for Willard. However, they had well over 150 fans on their side of the gym. Im sure they took advantage of the Covid rules to stick it to Willard however they could.
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2021 10:08:02 GMT -5
Does that have anything to do with the Marg seating capacity? Isn't OHSAA still recommending 15%? In part, I would agree. Just guessing, their gym probably seats around 700. 15% would be just over 100 total fans. 75 tickets for them...25 for Willard. However, they had well over 150 fans on their side of the gym. Im sure they took advantage of the Covid rules to stick it to Willard however they could. These guidelines of 15% stink for the smaller gyms. Although I feel an effort should be made to be fair, a school SHOULD take care of their home crowd first. I know of some gyms that allowed 1 parent per player into games.
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Post by Vogel on Feb 27, 2021 9:57:32 GMT -5
The win over Elmwood was Willard's 33rd Sectional Championship in the last 50 years. (66% of the time)
To put that in perspective Bucyrus's boys team has zero Sectional Championships, ever.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 27, 2021 10:04:30 GMT -5
Bucyrus bratwursts are good, though.
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Post by perwalk on Feb 27, 2021 20:15:16 GMT -5
The win over Elmwood was Willard's 33rd Sectional Championship in the last 50 years. (66% of the time) To put that in perspective Bucyrus's boys team has zero Sectional Championships, ever. Vogel does not post too many incorrect stats however that Bucyrus feat is absolutely staggering. However the 50 year Willard stats take away the 1st 25 1971-96 and those numbers change greatly...
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Post by Vogel on Feb 28, 2021 8:47:12 GMT -5
Yeah, they would change greatly when you want to take 25 of 50 years away. That's a 50% reduction in years we can count.
Sectional Championships 16 - Last 25 years (1996-97 - 2020-21) 17 - 25 years before that (1971-72 - 1995-96) ---- 33 - Last 50 years
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Post by Vogel on Feb 28, 2021 8:50:36 GMT -5
Sectional Championships 8 - Last 10 years 6 - 11-20 years ago 4 - 21-30 years ago 7 - 31-40 years ago 8 - 41-50 years ago
And Bucyrus has 0, ever.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2021 10:40:23 GMT -5
What happened before 1972? Would that be like before the forward pass in football?
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Post by Vogel on Feb 28, 2021 12:20:00 GMT -5
Hmmmm, that's 51 years ago. Do you want me to make a post about Sectional Titles in the last 53 years? Or 61 years?
I stick to round numbers, bubby.
50 years, nice and round.
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Post by perwalk on Feb 28, 2021 15:41:43 GMT -5
0 Ever that’s unreal... Has to be one if not the only school to accomplish that... (if they keep track futility)
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 28, 2021 15:49:10 GMT -5
I remember St. Paul had that distinction until mid-90s then Flyers broke through and even had a squad go to State.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 28, 2021 15:58:54 GMT -5
What happened before 1972? Would that be like before the forward pass in football? from 51-71, I counted 4. Probably not many in other years, prior. Coach Haas certainly changed the fortunes/landscape of Willard Basketball.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 28, 2021 16:14:00 GMT -5
I knew, wanted to hear Vogel verify.
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Post by Vogel on Mar 1, 2021 8:18:01 GMT -5
I knew, wanted to hear Vogel verify. verify what? If I was "rigging" the stats I would have cut off or added years as Willard didn't win Sectional Titles in 1972 or 1973 (the 1st 2 years of the past 50 years). So 33 of the last 48 years Willard has won a Sectional Championship. Or I could have added a year and went with 51 years as Willard did win a Sectional Title in 1971 and the stat would have been 34 in the last 51 years. 1971 as a start point is 100% legit as that's when the OHSAA went from a 2 Class tournament to a 3 Class tournament. I pick a nice round # of 50 and the jealous come out and act like I rigged this to make Willard look good. Willard looks good in these stats because Willard has been good. Sectional Championships in the last 50 years - NOL members in that time (minus Fostoria) 33 (66% success rate) - Willard 22 (44% success rate) - Ontario 20 (40% success rate) - Sandusky 19 (38% success rate) - Bellevue 19 (38% success rate) - Norwalk 17 (34% success rate) - Upper Sandusky 16 (32% success rate) - Shelby 7 (14% success rate) - Galion 6 (12% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 0 (0% success rate) - Bucyrus We are talking FIFTY years worth of data and we have some boomers on here acting like I "rigged" the data to make Willard look good. Okay we will do 25 years - That means 0 Haas years - cuz Willard was only any successful during the Haas years according to these goobers. Sectional Championships in the last 25 years16 (64% success rate) - Willard 16 (64% success rate) - Ontario 11 (44% success rate) - Sandusky 11 (44% success rate) - Norwalk 10 (40% success rate) - Upper Sandusky 10 (40% success rate) - Shelby 5 (20% success rate) - Bellevue 5 (20% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 3 (12% success rate) - Galion 0 (0% success rate- Bucyrus
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 8:24:58 GMT -5
Since when did sectional wins become a measuring point. Is there even an award for this, medals?
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 1, 2021 9:01:09 GMT -5
Since when did sectional wins become a measuring point. Is there even an award for this, medals? Trophy and nets. Great barometer imo.
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 9:27:53 GMT -5
Since when did sectional wins become a measuring point. Is there even an award for this, medals? Trophy and nets. Great barometer imo. I have been to many sectional games and I have not seen a trophy for many years. They must keep them well hide. Very average barometer imo. The teams played are normally the local teams you already have on your schedule and seeding will decide a majority of the winners. District is a great barometer for most of us.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 1, 2021 10:02:09 GMT -5
Trophy and nets. Great barometer imo. I have been to many sectional games and I have not seen a trophy for many years. They must keep them well hide. Very average barometer imo. The teams played are normally the local teams you already have on your schedule and seeding will decide a majority of the winners. District is a great barometer for most of us. Yes, district is more important. And yes, a sectional championship should be easy. But as the numbers indicate it’s not as easy as you think
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 1, 2021 10:04:31 GMT -5
And your right about the trophy. My mistake. Willard puts it in a banner tho. Not sure about anyone else
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 10:08:28 GMT -5
I have been to many sectional games and I have not seen a trophy for many years. They must keep them well hide. Very average barometer imo. The teams played are normally the local teams you already have on your schedule and seeding will decide a majority of the winners. District is a great barometer for most of us. Yes, district is more important. And yes, a sectional championship should be easy. But as the numbers indicate it’s not as easy as you think I don't think it's easy but I don't see it as much of a barometer since it can be teams you have already faced. Upsets can always happen but in most years, high seeds win.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 1, 2021 10:22:12 GMT -5
Yes, district is more important. And yes, a sectional championship should be easy. But as the numbers indicate it’s not as easy as you think I don't think it's easy but I don't see it as much of a barometer since it can be teams you have already faced. Upsets can always happen but in most years, high seeds win. Sounds like your saying it means they are a solid team since it’s not easy and the higher seeded team usually wins. I agree
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Post by Vogel on Mar 1, 2021 10:24:23 GMT -5
dude is just sour cuz Willard most likely has owned whatever school he roots for
Sectional Championships are so easy that only 2 schools in the last 25 years and only 1 school in the last 50 that played in the NOL have made it out 50+% of the time.
But dude thinks making the Sweet 16 is the only thing that matters. Okay. Here's those stats
District Championships - last 50 years 17 (34% success rate)- Willard 7 (14% success rate) - Ontario 6 (12% success rate) - Sandusky 6 (12% success rate) - Bellevue 4 (8% success rate) - Norwalk 3 (6% success rate) - Galion 3 (6% success rate) - Upper Sandusky 1 (2% success rate) - Shelby 0 (0% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 0 (0% success rate) - Bucyrus
District Championships - last 25 years 6 (24% success rate) - Willard 4 (16% success rate) - Ontario 3 (12% success rate) - Sandusky 3 (12% success rate) - Bellevue 3 (12% success rate) - Norwalk 3 (12% success rate) - Upper Sandusky 1 (4% success rate) - Galion 1 (4% success rate) - Shelby 0 (0% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 0 (0% success rate) - Bucyrus
Haters going to hate.
What's funny is in the last 50 years (even with all those Sectional Championships) Willard's had TWO undefeated teams fail to win the Sectional Championship. But dude is right, high seed wins. It's so easy to win a Sectional Title, right Bucyrus.
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