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Post by jvchesster on Mar 1, 2021 10:32:09 GMT -5
I think they call that a mic drop
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 10:43:24 GMT -5
dude is just sour cuz Willard most likely has owned whatever school he roots for Sectional Championships are so easy that only 2 schools in the last 25 years and only 1 school in the last 50 that played in the NOL have made it out 50+% of the time. But dude thinks making the Sweet 16 is the only thing that matters. Okay. Here's those stats District Championships - last 50 years 17 (34% success rate)- Willard 7 (14% success rate) - Ontario 6 (12% success rate) - Sandusky 6 (12% success rate) - Bellevue 4 (8% success rate) - Norwalk 3 (6% success rate) - Galion 3 (6% success rate) - Upper Sandusky 1 (2% success rate) - Shelby 0 (0% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 0 (0% success rate) - Bucyrus District Championships - last 25 years 6 (24% success rate) - Willard 4 (16% success rate) - Ontario 3 (12% success rate) - Sandusky 3 (12% success rate) - Bellevue 3 (12% success rate) - Norwalk 3 (12% success rate) - Upper Sandusky 1 (4% success rate) - Galion 1 (4% success rate) - Shelby 0 (0% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 0 (0% success rate) - Bucyrus Haters going to hate. What's funny is in the last 50 years (even with all those Sectional Championships) Willard's had TWO undefeated teams fail to win the Sectional Championship. But dude is right, high seed wins. It's so easy to win a Sectional Title, right Bucyrus. I have no issue with Willard sports and my kid's school has an all time winning record against Willard in football and basketball so that gives me no drive and I sincerely have not "hate" for Willard. I'm not saying a sectional winner is easy but it's not a barometer imo. Most high seeds can play one game for it. Most coaches I talk to say they want to promote all wins but the District game is prize they all want. Nobody judges the value of winning by the teams that do not.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 1, 2021 11:18:26 GMT -5
In a lot of cases teams in the same district play each other in the regular season as well. To me, it comes across as bitterness and hate for Willard. And no one asked about your kids and their record against Willard. You brought that up to try to disprove something. Facts are facts. In the last 50 years Willard leads in district and sectional championships. Get over it
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 1, 2021 11:19:47 GMT -5
I knew, wanted to hear Vogel verify. verify what? If I was "rigging" the stats I would have cut off or added years as Willard didn't win Sectional Titles in 1972 or 1973 (the 1st 2 years of the past 50 years). 0 (0% success rate- Bucyrus Asking for verification does not imply "rigging". Asking for verification of a statistic is nothing more than an inquiry asked of the one most likely to know.
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Post by Vogel on Mar 1, 2021 11:20:49 GMT -5
Oh course District Titles mean more than Sectional Titles. Just like Regional Titles mean more than District Titles and State Titles are the highest Title.
Sectionals have 6 to 8 teams. 2 get out. Districts have 12 to 16 teams. 1 gets out. Regionals have ~60 teams. 1 gets out.
It's still impressive to win a Sectional Title, only 25%-33% of teams that begin the tournament secure a Sectional Championship. Bucyrus knows the difficulty.
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 11:29:47 GMT -5
In a lot of cases teams in the same district play each other in the regular season as well. To me, it comes across as bitterness and hate for Willard. And no one asked about your kids and their record against Willard. You brought that up to try to disprove something. Facts are facts. In the last 50 years Willard leads in district and sectional championships. Get over it Your interpretation of my posts are far from correct. They are written in regards to all, not one specific team. Nobody asked but I mentioned the school I supported when my kids were playing to disprove Vogel 's theory. I have NO bitterness or hate towards Willard. I have made many trips there to watch sports over the last 25 years. I would never debate Vogel's stats as I believe his accuracy is 100% correct. I was simply giving my view as to the sectional title being a great barometer of a team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 1, 2021 11:30:38 GMT -5
dude is just sour cuz Willard most likely has owned whatever school he roots for Sectional Championships are so easy that only 2 schools in the last 25 years and only 1 school in the last 50 that played in the NOL have made it out 50+% of the time. But dude thinks making the Sweet 16 is the only thing that matters. Okay. Here's those stats District Championships - last 50 years 17 (34% success rate)- Willard 7 (14% success rate) - Ontario 6 (12% success rate) - Sandusky 6 (12% success rate) - Bellevue 4 (8% success rate) - Norwalk 3 (6% success rate) - Galion 3 (6% success rate) - Upper Sandusky 1 (2% success rate) - Shelby 0 (0% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 0 (0% success rate) - Bucyrus District Championships - last 25 years 6 (24% success rate) - Willard 4 (16% success rate) - Ontario 3 (12% success rate) - Sandusky 3 (12% success rate) - Bellevue 3 (12% success rate) - Norwalk 3 (12% success rate) - Upper Sandusky 1 (4% success rate) - Galion 1 (4% success rate) - Shelby 0 (0% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 0 (0% success rate) - Bucyrus Haters going to hate. What's funny is in the last 50 years (even with all those Sectional Championships) Willard's had TWO undefeated teams fail to win the Sectional Championship. But dude is right, high seed wins. It's so easy to win a Sectional Title, right Bucyrus. I knew showing District Championships would show a greater domination by Willard. This year's Sectional Championships have been determined, thus the stat for 50 years was completed. District Championships are yet to be determined, thus that statistic was held in abeyance.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 1, 2021 11:32:18 GMT -5
Bucyrus bratwursts are good, though. For sure better than those of Wisconsin who like to claim the title of "the best"
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 11:35:43 GMT -5
Oh course District Titles mean more than Sectional Titles. Just like Regional Titles mean more than District Titles and State Titles are the highest Title. Sectionals have 6 to 8 teams. 2 get out. Districts have 12 to 16 teams. 1 gets out. Regionals have ~60 teams. 1 gets out. It's still impressive to win a Sectional Title, only 25%-33% of teams that begin the tournament secure a Sectional Championship. Bucyrus knows the difficulty. So very true, but I have never heard a coach in an interview saying they have a team goal of winning a sectional title. It has almost always been winning the league and then winning a District Title. Some districts have even less than 12 teams.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 1, 2021 11:38:20 GMT -5
In a lot of cases teams in the same district play each other in the regular season as well. To me, it comes across as bitterness and hate for Willard. And no one asked about your kids and their record against Willard. You brought that up to try to disprove something. Facts are facts. In the last 50 years Willard leads in district and sectional championships. Get over it Not just Willard, dude "hates" aplenty.
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Post by purefan on Mar 1, 2021 11:56:59 GMT -5
Oh course District Titles mean more than Sectional Titles. Just like Regional Titles mean more than District Titles and State Titles are the highest Title. Sectionals have 6 to 8 teams. 2 get out. Districts have 12 to 16 teams. 1 gets out. Regionals have ~60 teams. 1 gets out. It's still impressive to win a Sectional Title, only 25%-33% of teams that begin the tournament secure a Sectional Championship. Bucyrus knows the difficulty. So very true, but I have never heard a coach in an interview saying they have a team goal of winning a sectional title. It has almost always been winning the league and then winning a District Title. Some districts have even less than 12 teams. CC sets team goals every year. League title,sectional title, and then a district championship. Maybe Bucyrus should set a sectional championship as a goal. So hard to believe they don’t have at least 1.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 1, 2021 12:03:52 GMT -5
How many Bucyrus students have open enrolled to Wynford and CC?
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 12:07:33 GMT -5
So very true, but I have never heard a coach in an interview saying they have a team goal of winning a sectional title. It has almost always been winning the league and then winning a District Title. Some districts have even less than 12 teams. CC sets team goals every year. League title,sectional title, and then a district championship. Maybe Bucyrus should set a sectional championship as a goal. So hard to believe they don’t have at least 1. Bucyrus kids do have goals of winning. That's why they are at Wynford and CCCC.
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Post by purefan on Mar 1, 2021 12:10:08 GMT -5
CC sets team goals every year. League title,sectional title, and then a district championship. Maybe Bucyrus should set a sectional championship as a goal. So hard to believe they don’t have at least 1. Bucyrus kids do have goals of winning. That's why they are at Wynford and CCCC. True dat! 👏😂
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 1, 2021 12:18:12 GMT -5
Bucyrus has a difficult time in anything, let alone winning Sectionals. On that note, I have their 1990 Softball team holding for me on Line 2.
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 1, 2021 12:20:12 GMT -5
Since when did sectional wins become a measuring point. Is there even an award for this, medals? Trophy and nets. Great barometer imo. Bellevue Lady Red agrees with you.
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 1, 2021 12:25:58 GMT -5
Great discussion thus far. I am appreciative Vogel doing some numbers. I like numbers much like the Count on Sesame Street.
Having said this, I agree with dude. Sectional Titles is not a great barometer. To those that won a bunch though, kudos.
And, if I suspect who dude pulls for, he shouldn't be sour. In last 50 years, 2 State Titles, 1 Runner-up, and another Final Four appearance. That should make anyone else sour.
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Post by ScarletFever on Mar 1, 2021 13:39:56 GMT -5
Since when did sectional wins become a measuring point. Is there even an award for this, medals? If you lived in Bucyrus you wouldn’t think this way
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 13:51:38 GMT -5
Since when did sectional wins become a measuring point. Is there even an award for this, medals? If you lived in Bucyrus you wouldn’t think this way Does anyone WANT to live in Bucyrus? I'm all for celebrating wins but regardless of were I live I have never thought winning a sectional game was a great barometer for a team.
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Post by ScarletFever on Mar 1, 2021 13:57:40 GMT -5
On a sidenote if anybody can get me in the district game at Shelby this week I will pay Sheldon Shade level scalper prices
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Post by truecrimson on Mar 1, 2021 14:02:41 GMT -5
On a sidenote if anybody can get me in the district game at Shelby this week I will pay Sheldon Shade level scalper prices Sneak in with OH Report, they are tight with Shelby from what I hear.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 1, 2021 14:19:44 GMT -5
On a sidenote if anybody can get me in the district game at Shelby this week I will pay Sheldon Shade level scalper prices Wow Sheldon Shade, there’s a name I haven’t heard in a while. On a side note, it’s no wonder these Willard threads always end up 30 or more pages long, lol.
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 1, 2021 15:03:57 GMT -5
On a sidenote if anybody can get me in the district game at Shelby this week I will pay Sheldon Shade level scalper prices ok, that's too funny.
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 1, 2021 15:06:10 GMT -5
On a sidenote if anybody can get me in the district game at Shelby this week I will pay Sheldon Shade level scalper prices Wow Sheldon Shade, there’s a name I haven’t heard in a while. On a side note, it’s no wonder these Willard threads always end up 30 or more pages long, lol. more than anything, I give credit to the Willard fans whom are passionate about their Flashes. Football thread regarding Willard is starting to blow up as well.
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Post by Kokomo on Mar 1, 2021 15:44:00 GMT -5
Willard over CC by 5. Let’s Go Flashes!!!!!
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Post by ScarletFever on Mar 1, 2021 16:24:30 GMT -5
On a sidenote if anybody can get me in the district game at Shelby this week I will pay Sheldon Shade level scalper prices Sneak in with OH Report, they are tight with Shelby from what I hear. I can’t go into detail but trust me the level of venom Shelby is receiving from around the area with how poorly they are handling these tournament games is Hogan versus macho man wrestlemania level
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Post by ScarletFever on Mar 1, 2021 17:01:57 GMT -5
If you lived in Bucyrus you wouldn’t think this way Does anyone WANT to live in Bucyrus? Back when the Mad Bull was open I wish I had an apartment there 😮
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 1, 2021 17:31:39 GMT -5
I loved Aumiller Park when I was growing up some thousand years ago.
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Post by perwalk on Mar 1, 2021 20:05:05 GMT -5
State Championships - last 25 years 1 (4% success rate) - Norwalk 1 (4%success rate) - Upper Sandusky 0 (0% success rate) - Sandusky 0 (0% success rate) - Bellevue 0 (0% success rate) - Willard 0 (0% success rate) - Ontario 0 (0% success rate) - Galion 0 (0% success rate) - Shelby 0 (0% success rate) - Tiffin Columbian 0 (0% success rate) - Bucyrus
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 1, 2021 20:14:10 GMT -5
Oh boy.
30 pages soon to be 60.
In all seriousness, I would like any school from this area to experience the joy a State Title can do for a community.
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