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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 14:51:19 GMT -5
Name another conference that has had multiple district champs in one season since the formation of the N-10, excluding the SBC expansion. So what you are asking is in the last 6 years of District Champions as a league won 2 titles. That would be a tough task to do since most conferences have similar size schools in them and could possibly be competing for the same district. And the N-10 has done it twice, but it’s a bad conference 😂
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Post by dude on Feb 27, 2021 15:46:27 GMT -5
So what you are asking is in the last 6 years of District Champions as a league won 2 titles. That would be a tough task to do since most conferences have similar size schools in them and could possibly be competing for the same district. And the N-10 has done it twice, but it’s a bad conference 😂 I do not think the N10 is a "bad conference". In 7 years of existence, how many teams of won league titles? Of the 7 years have the top 2-3 teams been the same ones in most of those 7?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 16:26:26 GMT -5
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In the flip side they have had 4 schools win district titles in that span. How many conferences can say that?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 27, 2021 17:05:26 GMT -5
IF you aren't doing it against Norwalk it does not count.
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Post by perwalk on Feb 27, 2021 18:51:38 GMT -5
IF you aren't doing it against Norwalk it does not count. Upper did it against Norwalk
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Post by perwalk on Feb 27, 2021 18:57:43 GMT -5
The N10 is NOT a bad conference just a conference that has some poor programs. A variety of D4, D3 schools and a D2 school that has been really bad for a while and another that suffers from playing in the N10. By the way that was a serious question has any of the N10 district Champs won a regional game???
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 27, 2021 19:04:39 GMT -5
IF you aren't doing it against Norwalk it does not count. Upper did it against Norwalk In the regular season? I think that's a talking point....not that I care
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Post by dude on Mar 1, 2021 8:22:12 GMT -5
The N10 is NOT a bad conference just a conference that has some poor programs. A variety of D4, D3 schools and a D2 school that has been really bad for a while and another that suffers from playing in the N10. By the way that was a serious question has any of the N10 district Champs won a regional game??? I don't think its a bad league. But I do think provides and easy schedule for the better teams in the league. Upper and CC can be good but it's not because they go 16-0 or 12-4 in the conference.
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Post by moacpops on Mar 1, 2021 12:40:06 GMT -5
Good league with a lot of bad basketball teams.
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Post by perwalk on Mar 1, 2021 20:27:05 GMT -5
The N10 is NOT a bad conference just a conference that has some poor programs. A variety of D4, D3 schools and a D2 school that has been really bad for a while and another that suffers from playing in the N10. By the way that was a serious question has any of the N10 district Champs won a regional game??? I don't think its a bad league. But I do think provides and easy schedule for the better teams in the league. Upper and CC can be good but it's not because they go 16-0 or 12-4 in the conference. Very seldom do I agree with Dude however I’m on board with this one however 12-4 in the N10 would not be a good basketball team... Upper Sandusky this season exhibit A...
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Post by fbfan on Mar 2, 2021 8:11:51 GMT -5
How many years has that happened? You can’t say well one year two n10 teams won district so the logic of having a lot of sub par teams in conference doesn’t matter come tourney time. I think the tougher the conference the better it prepares a team for a run. Big difference between the top school and the bottom in terms of enrollment and in quality. Every time there has been an actual or perceived opening in the N10, Willard has been at their doorstep trying to get in. Why would they want to hurt the tournament chances of their great basketball team by moving from the tough SBC Bay to the N10 and all their sub par teams?
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 8:23:26 GMT -5
How many years has that happened? You can’t say well one year two n10 teams won district so the logic of having a lot of sub par teams in conference doesn’t matter come tourney time. I think the tougher the conference the better it prepares a team for a run. Big difference between the top school and the bottom in terms of enrollment and in quality. Every time there has been an actual or perceived opening in the N10, Willard has been at their doorstep trying to get in. Why would they want to hurt the tournament chances of their great basketball team by moving from the tough SBC Bay to the N10 and all their sub par teams? Bc of football and logistics. Over a hour drive to oak harbor. The real question is why wouldn’t the n10 want to improve their conference?
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Post by fbfan on Mar 2, 2021 8:52:00 GMT -5
Every time there has been an actual or perceived opening in the N10, Willard has been at their doorstep trying to get in. Why would they want to hurt the tournament chances of their great basketball team by moving from the tough SBC Bay to the N10 and all their sub par teams? Bc of football and logistics. Over a hour drive to oak harbor. The real question is why wouldn’t the n10 want to improve their conference? So Willard is willing to hurt themselves by playing more sub par teams in basketball, so the FB team would have a chance against all the sub par FB teams in the N10?
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 9:07:59 GMT -5
Bc of football and logistics. Over a hour drive to oak harbor. The real question is why wouldn’t the n10 want to improve their conference? So Willard is willing to hurt themselves by playing more sub par teams in basketball, so the FB team would have a chance against all the sub par FB teams in the N10? That and logistics. Also the n10 would add another good team. Which would make the conference better. Could potentially get rid of a few small d4 teams but that would ruin cc chances of a undefeated season.
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Post by fbfan on Mar 2, 2021 10:27:31 GMT -5
So Willard is willing to hurt themselves by playing more sub par teams in basketball, so the FB team would have a chance against all the sub par FB teams in the N10? That and logistics. Also the n10 would add another good team. Which would make the conference better. Could potentially get rid of a few small d4 teams but that would ruin cc chances of a undefeated season. So you're saying that it would be OK for the N10 to add Willard, giving them another sub par Football team, but they would gain a good basketball team? Why is it OK with you, for the N10 to have sub par teams playing in football, but not basketball? How would that improve the N10 overall?
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 10:58:01 GMT -5
That and logistics. Also the n10 would add another good team. Which would make the conference better. Could potentially get rid of a few small d4 teams but that would ruin cc chances of a undefeated season. So you're saying that it would be OK for the N10 to add Willard, giving them another sub par Football team, but they would gain a good basketball team? Why is it OK with you, for the N10 to have sub par teams playing in football, but not basketball? How would that improve the N10 overall? No, you said that. I’m saying bringing Willard in would improve the conference overall. Willard is better overall in all sports than half the league. In basketball they would add two extra competitive games to the schedule. People in the n10 want Willard out bc they know they would compete. Sad
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 10:59:39 GMT -5
Also Willard has 217 kids in the junior and senior classes combined. Size shouldn’t be reason why they are scared
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2021 11:05:44 GMT -5
So Willard is willing to hurt themselves by playing more sub par teams in basketball, so the FB team would have a chance against all the sub par FB teams in the N10? That and logistics. Also the n10 would add another good team. Which would make the conference better. Could potentially get rid of a few small d4 teams but that would ruin cc chances of a undefeated season. "Making the conference better" was the furthest thing on the minds of the N-10 power brokers when it was formed and it still would be. They ran from their previous conference affiliation because of the competition,
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Post by fbfan on Mar 2, 2021 11:34:09 GMT -5
So you're saying that it would be OK for the N10 to add Willard, giving them another sub par Football team, but they would gain a good basketball team? Why is it OK with you, for the N10 to have sub par teams playing in football, but not basketball? How would that improve the N10 overall? No, you said that. I’m saying bringing Willard in would improve the conference overall. Willard is better overall in all sports than half the league. In basketball they would add two extra competitive games to the schedule. People in the n10 want Willard out bc they know they would compete. Sad Yes, I said that, because that is what would happen. It is hypocritical to say that the N10 could add Willard and "get rid of a few small d4 teams" in order to increase competiveness in BB, but yet, in doing that, would add a sub par team and decrease competiveness in FB. Which sport is more important? Which d4 teams would you get rid of? Who would you add? How would that help the "logistics" of the remaining teams? I don't know if, or agree that "Willard is better overall in all sports than half the league". You would have to prove that, and even if it were true, that just puts Willard in the middle of the pack. That doesn't automatically improve the conference overall when all factors are considered.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 11:48:11 GMT -5
I didn’t say any of that. So you disagree and it’s up to me to prove to you whether or not you have any reason to disagree? Makes no sense. I don’t care what you think. You would have to be idiot to think Willard wouldn’t make that conference better.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 11:58:01 GMT -5
The sbc bay has very good football teams. Much better than n10. That is why i said the n10 is a good fit for Willard. You asked why does Willard want to get into n10. I don’t know for sure but I said bc of football (easier schedule) as well as logistics. Also they would make the n10 a better conference. Look at a map if you want talk about logistics and look at some of the football teams Willard has to play in the sbc bay and that is your proof. Huron oh and pc in the two years have been brutal. Far better than any n10 team. Willard would have dominated in boys and girl’s basketball the last few years. That is why they are not in. It’s ok for n10 teams to punish bc and bucyrus in football and basketball but heaven forbid them to beat Willard in football and lose to them in hoops.
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Post by dude on Mar 2, 2021 12:14:47 GMT -5
The real question is why wouldn’t the n10 want to improve their conference? Last year the Willard basketball team could have finished 3rd and the football team this season would have finished 8th or 9th. Maybe they don't see it as an improvement as much as you do.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 12:19:53 GMT -5
Last year the Willard basketball team could have finished 3rd and the football team this season would have finished 8th or 9th. Maybe they don't see it as an improvement as much as you do. Last year they would’ve finished 1st in hoops. Both boys and girls. But I agree they wouldn’t see that as a improvement.
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Post by dude on Mar 2, 2021 12:27:17 GMT -5
Last year the Willard basketball team could have finished 3rd and the football team this season would have finished 8th or 9th. Maybe they don't see it as an improvement as much as you do. Last year they would’ve finished 1st in hoops. Both boys and girls. But I agree they wouldn’t see that as a improvement. Upper beat CC and CC beat Willard. seems like that would make them 3rd.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 12:37:20 GMT -5
Last year they would’ve finished 1st in hoops. Both boys and girls. But I agree they wouldn’t see that as a improvement. Upper beat CC and CC beat Willard. seems like that would make them 3rd. Willard beat upper. Upper beat cc twice
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2021 12:46:50 GMT -5
No, you said that. I’m saying bringing Willard in would improve the conference overall. Willard is better overall in all sports than half the league. In basketball they would add two extra competitive games to the schedule. People in the n10 want Willard out bc they know they would compete. Sad Yes, I said that, because that is what would happen. It is hypocritical to say that the N10 could add Willard and "get rid of a few small d4 teams" in order to increase competiveness in BB, but yet, in doing that, would add a sub par team and decrease competiveness in FB. Which sport is more important? Which d4 teams would you get rid of? Who would you add? How would that help the "logistics" of the remaining teams? I don't know if, or agree that "Willard is better overall in all sports than half the league". You would have to prove that, and even if it were true, that just puts Willard in the middle of the pack. That doesn't automatically improve the conference overall when all factors are considered. The power brokers who formed the n-10 had no problem "getting rid of teams" when the n-10 was created. AND it was about basketball.
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Post by dude on Mar 2, 2021 12:49:13 GMT -5
Upper beat CC and CC beat Willard. seems like that would make them 3rd. Willard beat upper. Upper beat cc twice I give credit for a season opener, but at the end of the year, Upper was better than CC and CC beat Willard.
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Post by fbfan on Mar 2, 2021 12:52:54 GMT -5
Upper beat CC and CC beat Willard. seems like that would make them 3rd. Willard beat upper. Upper beat cc twice This whole discussion started because of regular season schedule in relation to preparation for the tournament. Who beat Willard in the TOURNAMENT last year??? Mike Drop!!
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 16:53:48 GMT -5
Willard beat upper. Upper beat cc twice This whole discussion started because of regular season schedule in relation to preparation for the tournament. Who beat Willard in the TOURNAMENT last year??? Mike Drop!! Tourney don’t stop at districts. How did Crawford do at regionals?
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 16:55:11 GMT -5
And it’s mic, as in microphone. Not mike. Smh
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