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Post by fbfan on Mar 2, 2021 19:33:46 GMT -5
This whole discussion started because of regular season schedule in relation to preparation for the tournament. Who beat Willard in the TOURNAMENT last year??? Mike Drop!! Tourney don’t stop at districts. How did Crawford do at regionals? Apparently CC's N10 schedule prepared them well enough to get past Willard and win a District Title. I don't know who they could have scheduled to prepare them to get past OG, do you?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2021 19:45:10 GMT -5
Schedule OG, or anyone in their league.
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Post by purefan on Mar 2, 2021 19:45:24 GMT -5
According to what i’ve been following on these threads only playing willard’s schedule would suffice. Lmao!!!!😎
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2021 19:49:23 GMT -5
I was going to ask who Mr. Drop was....but I get in trouble for pointing our inaccuracies and making others stand by exactly what they say.
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Post by purefan on Mar 2, 2021 20:00:31 GMT -5
Schedule OG, or anyone in their league. Kenton has been on schedule last couple of years. Got cancelled this year. That count? Convoy crestview was for a couple years too if memory serves correct.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2021 20:03:29 GMT -5
Kenton only counts in football OR the 3 years they had the 6-8 kid that played for Izzo.
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Post by perwalk on Mar 2, 2021 20:08:31 GMT -5
I’m doing a preemptive strike before the N10 folks get all excited. Great night for the D4 N10 schools as Carey upsets OF and Mohawk is in a fight with TC. This proves that the N10 prepares these small schools for the tournament. Playing D2 and D3 schools benefit them as much as Upper playing them does NOT help them. Good luck in the next round Blue Devils...
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Post by purefan on Mar 2, 2021 21:26:23 GMT -5
The sbc bay has very good football teams. Much better than n10. That is why i said the n10 is a good fit for Willard. You asked why does Willard want to get into n10. I don’t know for sure but I said bc of football (easier schedule) as well as logistics. Also they would make the n10 a better conference. Look at a map if you want talk about logistics and look at some of the football teams Willard has to play in the sbc bay and that is your proof. Huron oh and pc in the two years have been brutal. Far better than any n10 team. Willard would have dominated in boys and girl’s basketball the last few years. That is why they are not in. It’s ok for n10 teams to punish bc and bucyrus in football and basketball but heaven forbid them to beat Willard in football and lose to them in hoops. This post is almost comical beyond believe. Much better than n-10? Good grief. Willard would of went winless in n-10 last 2 years. If you think otherwise i can’t help ya. N-10 top teams would of had no trouble with bay top teams
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 2, 2021 21:33:47 GMT -5
The sbc bay has very good football teams. Much better than n10. That is why i said the n10 is a good fit for Willard. You asked why does Willard want to get into n10. I don’t know for sure but I said bc of football (easier schedule) as well as logistics. Also they would make the n10 a better conference. Look at a map if you want talk about logistics and look at some of the football teams Willard has to play in the sbc bay and that is your proof. Huron oh and pc in the two years have been brutal. Far better than any n10 team. Willard would have dominated in boys and girl’s basketball the last few years. That is why they are not in. It’s ok for n10 teams to punish bc and bucyrus in football and basketball but heaven forbid them to beat Willard in football and lose to them in hoops. This post is almost comical beyond believe. Much better than n-10? Good grief. Willard would of went winless in n-10 last 2 years. If you think otherwise i can’t help ya. N-10 top teams would of had no trouble with bay top teams You have no clue
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Post by fbfan on Mar 3, 2021 10:54:32 GMT -5
I’m doing a preemptive strike before the N10 folks get all excited. Great night for the D4 N10 schools as Carey upsets OF and Mohawk is in a fight with TC. This proves that the N10 prepares these small schools for the tournament. Playing D2 and D3 schools benefit them as much as Upper playing them does NOT help them. Good luck in the next round Blue Devils... Those are two of the three "small d4 schools" that another poster thinks could be "gotten rid of" to make the N10 better. I don't think anyone would disagree that playing good competition is beneficial. However, I think there are many more important factors to consider when adding or removing schools to improve a league. The effect on all schools, all students, and all sports must be considered, not just a couple of schools with basketball tournament aspirations. Those two N10 schools have been in the mix for a Football Championship, (and in the playoffs) the last few years. The N10 is a much tougher FB league to win than the SBC Bay. How would getting rid of them and adding 6-25 Willard improve the N10 overall?
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Post by fbfan on Mar 3, 2021 10:59:43 GMT -5
This post is almost comical beyond believe. Much better than n-10? Good grief. Willard would of went winless in n-10 last 2 years. If you think otherwise i can’t help ya. N-10 top teams would of had no trouble with bay top teams You have no clue In the last 5 seasons before this years "covid season", the N10 has put 3 of 8 members in the football playoffs when only the top 8 in each region qualify. Has the SBC Bay division put it's top 3 in the playoffs every year in that time period? You're the one with no clue.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 12:07:36 GMT -5
I’m doing a preemptive strike before the N10 folks get all excited. Great night for the D4 N10 schools as Carey upsets OF and Mohawk is in a fight with TC. This proves that the N10 prepares these small schools for the tournament. Playing D2 and D3 schools benefit them as much as Upper playing them does NOT help them. Good luck in the next round Blue Devils... Those are two of the three "small d4 schools" that another poster thinks could be "gotten rid of" to make the N10 better. I don't think anyone would disagree that playing good competition is beneficial. However, I think there are many more important factors to consider when adding or removing schools to improve a league. The effect on all schools, all students, and all sports must be considered, not just a couple of schools with basketball tournament aspirations. Those two N10 schools have been in the mix for a Football Championship, (and in the playoffs) the last few years. The N10 is a much tougher FB league to win than the SBC Bay. How would getting rid of them and adding 6-25 Willard improve the N10 overall? Overall a conference gets better when they add a team that would’ve won the league in hoops the last two seasons. Both boys and girls. Also the football team in Willard has gotten beat badly by teams in the bay. This past year Willard would have hung (not have running clock) with 4 teams in the n10. Unlike the bay. So by adding two top teams in basketball, boys and girls, and basically not losing anything in football, that would quantify as a improvement in anyone’s mind but apparently people on this thread. It’s only logical tho if you don’t have blinders on.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 12:14:42 GMT -5
Two years ago oak harbor was unreal. Would’ve beat the breaks off any n10 team. Huron, oh , pc would injure most n10 teams year in and out
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 12:19:13 GMT -5
I honestly can’t believe you claim Willard wouldn’t make the n10 better. No wonder they can’t in. Volleyball as well. Willard would have done excellent in that as well.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 12:42:20 GMT -5
Maybe look up the word improvement?
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Post by dude on Mar 3, 2021 12:45:42 GMT -5
Two years ago oak harbor was unreal. Would’ve beat the breaks off any n10 team. Huron, oh , pc would injure most n10 teams year in and out Matchups cannot tell the entire story but 2 years ago OH went 13-1 and beat Edison 33-14. Same year, the top N10 team, Seneca East beat Edison 40-20.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 13:20:25 GMT -5
Last posts on football. That year Willard played Seneca east. They got beat by other teams in the bay way worse. Not just oh. Maybe they were nice and didn’t run it up? Doesn’t matter. Willard has been bad, but every year there are n10 teams just as bad or worse. That’s why the argument that Willard wouldn’t make the n10 better make no sense. They give you what bucyrus and typically bc or ridgedale give you with the bonus of being a top contender in hoops and other sports. My point has always been the n10 is a better fit for Willard bc of logistics and football reasons. They would play teams similar to them in football. Like bc and bucyrus. Yea, I also think the n10 has good teams in football. Just overall the quality of teams in bay is better. And they have several teams that are not so good giving Willard more chances to win. Just bc you disagree and feel that the top teams in the n10 are just as good or better doesn’t change the fact that Willard would make the n10 better. Willard still would’ve been title contenders in hoops the last two years. And the girls basketball team would’ve won it the last 3 years.
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Post by dude on Mar 3, 2021 13:45:39 GMT -5
Last posts on football. That year Willard played Seneca east. They got beat by other teams in the bay way worse. Not just oh. Maybe they were nice and didn’t run it up? Doesn’t matter. Willard has been bad, but every year there are n10 teams just as bad or worse. That’s why the argument that Willard wouldn’t make the n10 better make no sense. They give you what bucyrus and typically bc or ridgedale give you with the bonus of being a top contender in hoops and other sports. My point has always been the n10 is a better fit for Willard bc of logistics and football reasons. They would play teams similar to them in football. Like bc and bucyrus. Yea, I also think the n10 has good teams in football. Just overall the quality of teams in bay is better. And they have several teams that are not so good giving Willard more chances to win. Just bc you disagree and feel that the top teams in the n10 are just as good or better doesn’t change the fact that Willard would make the n10 better. Willard still would’ve been title contenders in hoops the last two years. And the girls basketball team would’ve won it the last 3 years. That year Seneca East beat Willard by 28. OH beat them by 20. I'm not here saying Willard is bad or good in football, but if you are saying they are bad, why would a league want to ad another bad team? Is having the bottom teams being less bad better for the N10? I would say going 0-10 is the same for anyone.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 13:54:34 GMT -5
I said that Willard lost to other teams in the bay by more than what they lost to se by. Not just oh.
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Post by dude on Mar 3, 2021 13:59:28 GMT -5
I said that Willard lost to other teams in the bay by more than what they lost to se by. Not just oh. Unless both teams played Willard it really is irrelevant.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 14:02:11 GMT -5
Also there are more sports other than football to consider. But from a football perspective Willard fits in better in the n10. Overall the conference would be better if Willard was in it. How can you say Willard wouldn’t make the conference better? The basketball teams would’ve won the league 3 years in a row. I forgot about the boys beating the crap out of upper 3 years ago in the district finals. It’s and girls hoops sir. 3 time champs. That’s why they are not in.
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Post by fbfan on Mar 3, 2021 14:09:37 GMT -5
Two years ago oak harbor was unreal. Would’ve beat the breaks off any n10 team. Huron, oh , pc would injure most n10 teams year in and out When this discussion started, we were talking about making the N10 better by getting rid of the small d4(basketball) teams and adding Willard. I have tried to point out that the effect of doing that would not make the N10 better overall, especially when considering football. Now your talking about d4 & d5 (football teams), being better than the d7 (football teams) in the N10 that you would get rid of. That's apples to oranges. Generally, head to head, of course they are. But not when you consider the level of competition those N10 teams have with their peers, within the divisions they compete in. Thus the N10 qualifying more teams for the playoffs than the SBC Bay does. Replacing those d4 BB and therefore the d7 FB teams would make the N10 different, not better for all the schools in the N10. Bottom line is, N10 schools are happy for the most part with the makeup of their league. If they wanted Willard or some other team to join in the league to "prep" them for the BB tournament, they had the opportunity do so. If they thought they needed a school that could "prep" and provide them with more computer points for the FB playoffs (and that school would not be Willard), they could have done that also. They don't think those things are necessary. They had chances and chose not to. Sorry if that offends you, because I know that Willard would love to be in the N10 just as it is. If you believe that N10 teams are not prepared for playoff and tournament games, that's your right. It's the N10's right to play with whom they want to.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 14:17:42 GMT -5
I get it. The n10 doesn’t want Willard. Willard would make them better but that isn’t in their interest. All good.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 14:19:17 GMT -5
Anyone know why Willard and cc didn’t play in regular season?
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Post by fbfan on Mar 3, 2021 14:24:54 GMT -5
Also there are more sports other than football to consider. But from a football perspective Willard fits in better in the n10. Overall the conference would be better if Willard was in it. How can you say Willard wouldn’t make the conference better? The basketball teams would’ve won the league 3 years in a row. I forgot about the boys beating the crap out of upper 3 years ago in the district finals. It’s and girls hoops sir. 3 time champs. That’s why they are not in. Not last year! CC would have beaten Willard twice in the league like they did in the tournament. Just sayin' because I can.
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Post by fbfan on Mar 3, 2021 14:31:26 GMT -5
I get it. The n10 doesn’t want Willard. Willard would make them better but that isn’t in their interest. All good. I think it's more like they don't want to blow up the scheduling to accommodate Willard's desires. The scheduling of ALL the sports. Now that their down to 8, (which I believe was their ultimate goal once they were down to 9) who knows what may happen in the future if they lose another. All good. One thing I do know and will guarantee you, that tomorrow at about 7:30pm there is going to be all kinds of "I told you so's" on these pages.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 15:41:56 GMT -5
Lol. Yep
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Post by purefan on Mar 3, 2021 15:48:44 GMT -5
Buckeye central girls team would not of let willard girls win n-10 last 3 years. Just saying😎
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 3, 2021 16:09:07 GMT -5
Buckeye central girls team would not of let willard girls win n-10 last 3 years. Just saying😎 Really? Willard played them the last 3 years. And won every time.
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Post by jvchesster on Mar 4, 2021 17:54:50 GMT -5
Wow
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