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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 13, 2020 21:44:36 GMT -5
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Post by Observer on Dec 13, 2020 22:47:33 GMT -5
I wonder if a mascot change for Bellevue or Port Clinton will be next?
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 14, 2020 11:53:02 GMT -5
i don't think Bellevue is ready rofl
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Post by maplecityjake on Dec 14, 2020 12:01:23 GMT -5
i don't think Bellevue is ready rofl BAM! |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Dec 14, 2020 12:31:31 GMT -5
This isn’t a surprise at all. Every time Terry Pluto has been asked about this, he said the Indians name would remain in 2021 and that a new name would be in place in time for 2022.
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Post by galion on Dec 15, 2020 4:48:39 GMT -5
It's more disturbing that they lose every good player that they develop. Who gives a crap about losing a nickname?
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 15, 2020 6:49:58 GMT -5
I've been a dedicated, lifelong Indians fan.
Stuck with my Tribe through long, desolate years and years of great joy.
This organization bowing to the PC crowd is all I can handle.
I can possibly understand where some people can contrive Chief Wahoo as somehow offensive, but Indians? The American Indian is somehow, offensive???
These people have completely lost their minds.
I'm done with this organization, finished, nada!
I guess I'm done with MLB in general.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 15, 2020 7:29:30 GMT -5
* American Indian Business Leaders (AIBL)
American Indian Business Leaders is a nonprofit organization designed to support and promote the education and development of future Native American leaders, while maintaining and incorporating cultural values.
* American Indian College Fund (AICF)
The American Indian College Fund provides scholarships and other support for American Indian students. The Fund disburses approximately 6,000 scholarships each year for American Indian students seeking to better their lives through higher education. The Fund also provides support for tribal college needs ranging from capital support to cultural preservation activities.
* American Indian Higher Education Consortium (AIHEC)
The American Indian Higher Education Consortium is the collective spirit and unifying voice of our nation's 37 Tribal Colleges and Universities (TCUs)—a unique community of tribally and federally chartered institutions working to strengthen tribal nations and make a lasting difference in the lives of American Indians and Alaska Natives.
* American Indian Policy Center
Its mission is to provide government leaders, policy makers and the public with accurate information about the legal and political history of American Indian nations, and the contemporary situation for American Indians.
* American Indian Science and Engineering Society (AISES)
Founded in 1977, the American Indian Science and Engineering Society (AISES) is a national, nonprofit organization focused on substantially increasing the representation of American Indians, Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, Pacific Islanders, First Nations and other indigenous peoples of North America in science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) studies and careers.
(AISES) has awarded over $11 million in academic scholarships to American Indian STEM students.
* Association on American Indian Affairs
The AAIA has played an integral part in drafting a number of important laws, including the Indian Child Welfare Act, the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act, and the Tribal Governmental Tax Status Act.
* Indian Country Media Network
Indian Country Media Network is an online media hub that focuses primarily on youth/education, cultural preservation and sovereignty.
* National Alaska Native American Indian Nurses Association (NANAINA)
The National Alaska Native American Indian Nurses Association’s mission is to promote a continuum of health among Native Americans; to serve the professional needs of Native American nurses; to cooperate with other professional associations, health care organizations and governmental entities in matters affecting the purposes of NANAINA; and to recommend culturally appropriate health-service delivery solutions where barriers to Native American consumers exist.
* National Indian Child Care Association
The National Indian Child Care Association is a representative American Indian and Alaska Native organization serving the 266 tribal CCDF grantees that represent Tribal communities across the nation. Tribal child care and early childhood programs work hard to provide children, families, and communities with high quality child care services all across Indian Country.
* National Indian Council on Aging
The mission of NICOA is to advocate for improved comprehensive health, social services and economic well-being for American Indian and Alaska Native Elders. In addition to providing service through several grants from agencies within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, NICOA operates as a National Sponsor of the federal Senior Community Service Employment program (SCSEP) in fourteen states through a grant from the Department of Labor.
* American Indian Movement (AIM)
is a Native American grassroots movement founded in July 1968 in Minneapolis, Minnesota, initially centred in urban areas to address systemic issues of poverty and police brutality against Native Americans.
* The National Congress of American Indians (NCAI)
is an American Indian and Alaska Native rights organization. It was founded in 1944 to represent the tribes ...
* Association Of American Indian Affairs (AAIA)
Mission. The mission of AAIA is to promote the welfare of American Indians and Alaska Natives by supporting efforts - - to sustain and perpetuate their cultures ...
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 15, 2020 10:39:32 GMT -5
Indian Motorcycle, owned by Polaris Corporation, will have to change it's long, historic namesake.
Oh, and let's not forget Indian Lake in Ohio and the hundreds of lakes across America, named after Indian Tribes.
The PC police are gaining momentum and feeling the power.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 15, 2020 10:57:09 GMT -5
Fostoria Board of Education has privately, made the executive decision to erase the Redmen namesake.
The new nickname will be Fostoria Red. The stadium has been recently painted and the new reference is already in place.
I would imagine Bucyrus, Bellevue, Arcadia, Hopewell-Louden, Tiffin Calvert, Lakota, Mohawk and dozens of others with any reference to Indian heritage, will be scrambling to please the PC police.
Fremont Ross 'Little Giants' needs to go. Don't want to be offending short people, do we?
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Post by maplecityjake on Dec 15, 2020 11:34:07 GMT -5
I've been a dedicated, lifelong Indians fan. Stuck with my Tribe through long, desolate years and years of great joy. This organization bowing to the PC crowd is all I can handle. I can possibly understand where some people can contrive Chief Wahoo as somehow offensive, but Indians? The American Indian is somehow, offensive??? These people have completely lost their minds. I'm done with this organization, finished, nada! I guess I'm done with MLB in general. plenty of room on the Dodger wagon, Ha! |
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Post by maplecityjake on Dec 15, 2020 11:36:53 GMT -5
Fostoria Board of Education has privately, made the executive decision to erase the Redmen namesake. The new nickname will be Fostoria Red. The stadium has been recently painted and the new reference is already in place. I would imagine Bucyrus, Bellevue, Arcadia, Hopewell-Louden, Tiffin Calvert, Lakota, Mohawk and dozens of others with any reference to Indian heritage, will be scrambling to please the PC police. Fremont Ross 'Little Giants' needs to go. Don't want to be offending short people, do we? for some reason, I think Bellevue fights this one to the death. Fremont Ross Big Midgets? That's what some Sandusky fans call them, anyways. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 15, 2020 12:05:08 GMT -5
If the PC crowd comes after high school sports teams. You better protect your children, they'll be coming after them next.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 15, 2020 12:18:33 GMT -5
Indian Motorcycle, owned by Polaris Corporation, will have to change it's long, historic namesake. Oh, and let's not forget Indian Lake in Ohio and the hundreds of lakes across America, named after Indian Tribes. The PC police are gaining momentum and feeling the power. Also 10s of thousands of cities and counties in the country that are named after Indian tribes. In this area alone to name just a few. Delaware, Mohawk, Seneca and Ontario. |
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 16, 2020 21:16:50 GMT -5
Indian Motorcycle, owned by Polaris Corporation, will have to change it's long, historic namesake. Oh, and let's not forget Indian Lake in Ohio and the hundreds of lakes across America, named after Indian Tribes. The PC police are gaining momentum and feeling the power. Also 10s of thousands of cities and counties in the country that are named after Indian tribes. In this area alone to name just a few. Delaware, Mohawk, Seneca and Ontario. Never even thought of that. There will never be a point of appeasement for these people. |
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Post by cbus on Dec 28, 2020 22:24:06 GMT -5
So what new name do you like? Cleveland Great Lakers is my favorite so far.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 29, 2020 1:20:29 GMT -5
Keep it generic. Can't be specific, four of the five are derivations of Indian names.
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Post by fbfan on Dec 29, 2020 9:10:40 GMT -5
How about just the Cleveland "Tribe". ( a noun already commonly used by Cleveland fans and others )
According to Mirriam-Webster:
Definition of tribe
1a: a social group comprising numerous families, clans, or generations together with slaves, dependents, or adopted strangers
b: a political division of the Roman people originally representing one of the three original tribes of ancient Rome
c: PHYLE
2: a group of persons having a common character, occupation, or interest
3: a category of taxonomic classification ranking below a subfamily
also : a natural group irrespective of taxonomic rank
the cat tribe
the rose tribe
I think that #2 would be the most appropriate in the Cleveland baseball team's and fan's case.
Surely, none of the American Indian groups can lay any exclusive claim to the use of the noun "tribe" to describe themselves under any of the definitions above.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 29, 2020 10:03:53 GMT -5
The Cleveland Honkey Cats.
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Post by cbus on Dec 29, 2020 10:06:19 GMT -5
I think they’ve ruled out Tribe already.
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Post by fbfan on Dec 29, 2020 11:00:54 GMT -5
I think they’ve ruled out Tribe already. Hadn't heard that. Apparently done without consulting a dictionary. Oh well, my days of packing my Tribe into the van and heading up 71 to watch the Indians came to an end when they kicked Chief Wahoo to the curb. Not very respectful of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2021 14:05:01 GMT -5
The Indians have been around for 105 years and have won 2 championships. A new name may actually be helpful
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 3, 2021 16:47:46 GMT -5
It will make the franchise and and retail stores a HUGE amount of money selling products with the new logo and name.
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Post by galion on Jan 3, 2021 20:47:47 GMT -5
I think they’ve ruled out Tribe already. Hadn't heard that. Apparently done without consulting a dictionary. Oh well, my days of packing my Tribe into the van and heading up 71 to watch the Indians came to an end when they kicked Chief Wahoo to the curb. Not very respectful of them. So Chief Wahoo was your primary source of entertainment at the game? I find that unlikely. More likely in your decision was the increase in cost combined with the decrease in performance. |
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Post by fbfan on Jan 4, 2021 12:13:52 GMT -5
Hadn't heard that. Apparently done without consulting a dictionary. Oh well, my days of packing my Tribe into the van and heading up 71 to watch the Indians came to an end when they kicked Chief Wahoo to the curb. Not very respectful of them. So Chief Wahoo was your primary source of entertainment at the game? I find that unlikely. More likely in your decision was the increase in cost combined with the decrease in performance. Actually when I took my Tribe to the Indian games when my children were small, seeing Chief Wahoo was one of the moments that they were the most excited about. My decision was to stop supporting, whenever possible, corporations that have supported and caved to the P.C. crowd and Cancel Culture. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 4, 2021 14:11:43 GMT -5
Be careful, there will be those in galion's camp that will insinuate your kids were racist for being excited to see Chief Wahoo.
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Post by galion on Jan 5, 2021 9:36:00 GMT -5
Perhaps I'm not as old as you but in the 20 or so years that I've been taking my kids to Indians games never once have I seen a Chief Wahoo mascot. I've only only ever seen it as a logo.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jan 5, 2021 14:30:29 GMT -5
Slider has been the mascot since 1990 and I can't find any record of an official in person mascot before then.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Mar 22, 2021 11:19:06 GMT -5
Dolan recently said he won't know until sometime this summer whether the name change will happen in 2022 as originally planned or need to be postponed until 2023
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Post by maplecityjake on Mar 23, 2021 17:23:49 GMT -5
Dolan recently said he won't know until sometime this summer whether the name change will happen in 2022 as originally planned or need to be postponed until 2023 Speaking of Dolan and name change, how about Cleveland Penny Pinchers? |
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