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Post by DrTorch on Jun 1, 2021 16:46:50 GMT -5
or we could just go balls to the wall and give each owner a 40-man roster and say hey manage it
just eliminate minors altogether
haha let's get nuts...could see some issues arising if a team went full tank (def would need to idea board the Poop out of it) but it would make things easy to manage for the Commish and Co.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jun 1, 2021 16:49:13 GMT -5
another option would be to reduce minors roster by 5 and increase active roster by 5 an extra DL spot is great but if we did the roster ingestion it would help teams field a full lineup (4 dl, 5 new roster spots), which is what we want in the end...even if we have to whore out Randall Grichuk to each other every week prob would help in that regard (being able to get a start a "full"er lineup vs an opponent) without causing too great a run on the FA pool, i think most owners have 2-3 minors that are in the majors now also wouldn't force owners to cut anyone unless they chose to it just seems since the new IR rules (i am talking MLB rule change) that MLB teams will gerrymander the snot out of who is injured and who isn't, so the roster crunch for us is a phenomena that is being driven on the MLB level by something beyond even covid, which is the roster needs of individual MLB teams on any given day/week/month...this means we might need a solution not a band-aid...because even when covid is not a factor the MLB teams will find a reason to IR somebody if it benefits them because it has become so easy to do so That idea has merit. It slightly adjusts how owners can or want to manage their minors. Currently we can stuff minors with a load of MLB players and have a large stream of available players albeit with the risk of losing them if we call up too early. Or we can fill them with all true prospects and have no fill in. Either way I think that is a post season adjustment. I would suggest polishing up that idea and posting on the rule change thread on the league page.
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Post by DrTorch on Jun 1, 2021 16:52:46 GMT -5
yeah that's not a mid-season thing
just thinking out loud now that i've had some time on the site and see how the mechanics work...also i could see some issues from that setup
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Post by lastros on Jun 1, 2021 16:54:45 GMT -5
another option would be to reduce minors roster by 5 and increase active roster by 5 an extra DL spot is great but if we did the roster ingestion it would help teams field a full lineup (4 dl, 5 new roster spots), which is what we want in the end...even if we have to whore out Randall Grichuk to each other every week prob would help in that regard (being able to get a start a "full"er lineup vs an opponent) without causing too great a run on the FA pool, i think most owners have 2-3 minors that are in the majors now also wouldn't force owners to cut anyone unless they chose to it just seems since the new IR rules (i am talking MLB rule change) that MLB teams will gerrymander the snot out of who is injured and who isn't, so the roster crunch for us is a phenomena that is being driven on the MLB level by something beyond even covid, which is the roster needs of individual MLB teams on any given day/week/month...this means we might need a solution not a band-aid...because even when covid is not a factor the MLB teams will find a reason to IR somebody if it benefits them because it has become so easy to do so Man you are spot on with that analysis. I just think it's so dumb I keep Yordan Alvarez on my minors roster since I just don't have any spots for him on my active roster. JD Martinez finally getting eligible at Outfielder does help out some in my case since 2 DH players are hard to roster. Just seems we don't have enough bench spots and use bigger minors roster instead to deplete the pool since a lot of these players are already playing in the league
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jun 1, 2021 16:58:30 GMT -5
or we could just go balls to the wall and give each owner a 40-man roster and say hey manage it just eliminate minors altogether haha let's get nuts...could see some issues arising if a team went full tank (def would need to idea board the Poop out of it) but it would make things easy to manage for the Commish and Co. Another good thought. We could always adjust minor eligibility rules. This all still coincides with how we want to rectify the whole minor saga. We developed a possible solution that TESLA tested out but basically me and SOUTH haven't really come to a firm consensus on what the next step is. And I think we passed his loosely set deadline.
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Post by DrTorch on Jun 1, 2021 18:29:04 GMT -5
i think whatever we can do to make sure owners are able to field a starting lineup most nights is important...you don't want someone you are competing for a playoff spot against to be playing the Ghost Faces
and right now i think the way we are setup hinders the ability of owners to start a full lineup because of how we have minors set
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Post by redsfan614 on Jun 1, 2021 19:31:17 GMT -5
finally talking about a legit full dynasty league. 40 man active roster, 5-10 prospects, 25 active keepers. yes, please
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Post by brownies1 on Jun 1, 2021 21:31:13 GMT -5
I’ll throw out another option. Increase active roster by 5 slots and take 5 away from minors roster as well as go from 15-20 keepers a year. 2 hitter slots and 2 pitcher slot with one spot for either hitter or batter to avoid someone just loading up on 5 pitchers. Eliminate players that are not currently in the minors to be added and stashed as minors.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jun 1, 2021 22:00:44 GMT -5
No matter what we have to come to some type of consensus....not sure how we get there unless we have several, somewhat detailed options laid out in front of us.
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Post by DrTorch on Jun 2, 2021 16:01:12 GMT -5
1. expanding active rosters by 5 and decreasing minors by 5 is something we could do immediately (along with adding a 4th IR spot) if we had a consensus, imho...owners would just have to pick which 5 minors to "promote" to the active roster
2. when i ramble on about just giving each owner a 40-man roster i am thinking they can sign whoever they want, there would me no "minors" players there would just be an owner with 40-roster spots to fill as they saw fit...now there would need to be some checks and balances (i.e. dickhead owner has (20) SPs on his bench) and that is something we would need an entire off-season to discuss/brainstorm/outright reject...it was just an idea and not something that is even related to the more pertinent matter at hand which is helping owners get a starting lineup together
3. i think definitely though we should get a discussion board going for roster ideas for the future in light of recent changes 1) by the MLB IR rule and 2) by having a new site that allows us to re-think the way we had to adapt ourselves to the ESPN site
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jun 2, 2021 17:53:38 GMT -5
1. expanding active rosters by 5 and decreasing minors by 5 is something we could do immediately (along with adding a 4th IR spot) if we had a consensus, imho...owners would just have to pick which 5 minors to "promote" to the active roster
2. when i ramble on about just giving each owner a 40-man roster i am thinking they can sign whoever they want, there would me no "minors" players there would just be an owner with 40-roster spots to fill as they saw fit...now there would need to be some checks and balances (i.e. dickhead owner has (20) SPs on his bench) and that is something we would need an entire off-season to discuss/brainstorm/outright reject...it was just an idea and not something that is even related to the more pertinent matter at hand which is helping owners get a starting lineup together 3. i think definitely though we should get a discussion board going for roster ideas for the future in light of recent changes 1) by the MLB IR rule and 2) by having a new site that allows us to re-think the way we had to adapt ourselves to the ESPN site One gap I see with this is not every owner actually has 5 players they could promote. Also I think we would need an avenue to keep owners from "losing" players prematurely, as in keeper levels.
Let's start a thread on the league message board to keep the discussion on topic and leave this thread for our normal BS.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jun 3, 2021 14:07:29 GMT -5
The vote to increase IL slots to 4 and eliminate the "Active IL Keeper Rule" has passed. In the interest of consistency for all owners, since games have already begun play today, is to have the rule change become active after all today's games have been concluded.
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Post by redsfan614 on Jul 2, 2021 17:08:55 GMT -5
tomorrow is my first day off since May 8. going to get drunk sitting on my couch while watching the reds/cubs game before making some burgers and tots and probably passing out by 11.
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Post by DrTorch on Jul 2, 2021 17:17:30 GMT -5
tomorrow is my first day off since May 8. going to get drunk sitting on my couch while watching the reds/cubs game before making some burgers and tots and probably passing out by 11. i won't pretend i'm not jealous
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jul 8, 2021 6:48:52 GMT -5
My first round minors pick is officially on the block.
I'm looking for offense in return. Send me a PM or email with a proposal if interested. I'll make my decision the night of the All Star Game.
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Post by redsfan614 on Jul 14, 2021 18:51:00 GMT -5
tried to place acuna on the dl and promote ktucker. roster limit exceeded error message. thought we added the 4th IL spot to cover something like this.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jul 14, 2021 19:04:34 GMT -5
tried to place acuna on the dl and promote ktucker. roster limit exceeded error message. thought we added the 4th IL spot to cover something like this. By the looks of it you have 25 on your active roster with that 4th IL alot still open.
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Post by redsfan614 on Jul 14, 2021 19:07:21 GMT -5
tried to place acuna on the dl and promote ktucker. roster limit exceeded error message. thought we added the 4th IL spot to cover something like this. By the looks of it you have 25 on your active roster with that 4th IL alot still open. yep. forgot I needed to drop folty after his spot start. thanks!
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Post by redsfan614 on Jul 17, 2021 20:07:53 GMT -5
apologies. no pics from the buckeye cruise for cancer softball game. got my butt handed to me. my own fault, didn't have any beer carts open so didn't schedule any runners.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jul 19, 2021 14:06:35 GMT -5
Hoping DRT sees my PM..."fingers crossed"....
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jul 21, 2021 22:42:42 GMT -5
At the conclusion of the minors draft, we will hold a 24 hour waiver period for all draft eligible players. Due to the nature of how we execute our draft/rosters, this waiver period needs to be done manually.
Minor Draft eligible players should not be added by individual owners. Instead all waivers should be submitted to the commissioners office.
Discussions between CEO and myself have determined owners should submit any claims to myself(since CEO happens to be #1 in the current waiver order). Claims can be sent via PM on NCOAST, email wes.reed77@gmail.com, or PM in the league chat. The league chat option however is the least desirable as the nature of the chat room leads to me possibly missing a post.
No earlier than 24 hours after the last pick in the draft and as close to the 24 hour mark, waivers will be processed manually.
A couple of extra notes:
Minor roster limit is 17. However, similar to how we allow trading of active draft picks to go over the max roster limit of 25, the same applies to the minors draft. To accommodate that, software limits are adjust to allow those owners to utilize those picks until the keeper date next spring when all rosters cut down to the keeper limit. Therefore, we must go with the honor system through the end of the season. Do no add more than 17 minors to your rosters.
When submitting waiver claims, clearly state claim priorities and if required, drop priorities.
If in doubt about anything....ask.... all questions are good questions.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jul 22, 2021 20:21:39 GMT -5
The minors draft is now complete
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Post by DrTorch on Jul 29, 2021 20:00:29 GMT -5
holy Dodgers
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jul 29, 2021 20:32:55 GMT -5
They drunk AF
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Post by DrTorch on Jul 29, 2021 20:59:02 GMT -5
wonder if we ever see Bauer pitch for them again
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jul 30, 2021 7:34:13 GMT -5
wonder if we ever see Bauer pitch for them again I would say probably not
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Aug 23, 2021 16:23:04 GMT -5
Polls up for voting on potential rule changes.
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Post by redsfan614 on Oct 20, 2021 19:14:58 GMT -5
what are the dates for keepers and rosters locked?
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Oct 20, 2021 20:59:44 GMT -5
what are the dates for keepers and rosters locked? Historically keeper date is sometime in late February or early March if my memory is good. As for rosters locking, I believe they locked once our season was complete. Something I forgot to bring up for discussion was off season transaction periods of some sort. Akin to the winter meetings where a bunch of transactions happen. I'm not sure how it could work but just an idea I have been spitballing with myself.
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Post by brownies1 on Oct 23, 2021 20:27:56 GMT -5
What was the final decision on roster?
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