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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 21, 2021 13:08:47 GMT -5
Learned some stuff this week. Ashland- way better then anticipated but not shocked due to Ashlands History. Couple mistakes caused them a win. Madison- needs a new coach today. Not what I was expecting last nigt. West Holmes-The Knights may just be the real deal. Beating a bug private school like Watterson isnt easy. Lexington- beat up on a bad team but also looks like a decent team. We will se exactly where they are at this week against Shelby Mansfield- has alot of talent but needs to finish drives. Should have been a blowout last night. Line play needs to get better. They have alot of size. The sophmore QB is better then the senior in my opinion. Mount Vernon- Yellow Jackets got beat by Harding which tells alot unless Harding just became the Harding of the 90s. Wooster- Dont know much but they beat Orrville 30-6. So either Orrville just isnt good this year or Wooster is beast. Im going to say Orrville is down. But it WAS what most were expecting from Madison. Watteraon isn't a bug(sic) private school, they're the same size as Lex. Then why is the Senior QB starting instead of the Soph? After 14 years Bradley isn't wise enough to see what you see??
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Post by sbclives on Aug 21, 2021 16:16:26 GMT -5
Learned some stuff this week. Ashland- way better then anticipated but not shocked due to Ashlands History. Couple mistakes caused them a win. Madison- needs a new coach today. Not what I was expecting last nigt. West Holmes-The Knights may just be the real deal. Beating a bug private school like Watterson isnt easy. Lexington- beat up on a bad team but also looks like a decent team. We will se exactly where they are at this week against Shelby Mansfield- has alot of talent but needs to finish drives. Should have been a blowout last night. Line play needs to get better. They have alot of size. The sophmore QB is better then the senior in my opinion. Mount Vernon- Yellow Jackets got beat by Harding which tells alot unless Harding just became the Harding of the 90s. Wooster- Dont know much but they beat Orrville 30-6. So either Orrville just isnt good this year or Wooster is beast. Im going to say Orrville is down. But it WAS what most were expecting from Madison. Watteraon isn't a bug(sic) private school, they're the same size as Lex. Then why is the Senior QB starting instead of the Soph? After 14 years Bradley isn't wise enough to see what you see?? Calm down Willie Vanilli. It’s just his own personal opinion. You get on anyone for the slightest of anything.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 21, 2021 17:21:31 GMT -5
Clive, I am THE single most calm person on the planet. My Doctor told me I'd be last of his patients to have a stroke. Perchance it is thou who needs to calm.
I stated a A FACT about Watterson, not an opinion. Do you know Coach Bradley? Where did I say Ramsfan could not have an opinion?? All I did was state MY opinion, which agrees with many others in Richland country. You need to spend more time in Richland County before acting as though you know much about the Lore to your south.
BTW I would fight for you and Ramfan to have the right to your opinions, would you do the same for me?
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Post by utsherman on Aug 21, 2021 18:50:45 GMT -5
Bishop Watterson and Lexington are not the same size. BW has 214 more students. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by unc4life on Aug 21, 2021 20:37:35 GMT -5
First overall good week 1 for the OCC, outside of Madison.
Still some unknowns out there. I don’t know what Wooster beating Orrville shows me. Is Lexington good or is Ontario bad?
I am ok after one week picking West Holmes as the best team in the conference. You can say what you want about Watterson, but that’s a ten times better win and team than Triway.
Ashland has work to to. You can’t be up 21-7 at half getting the ball and just come out like you won the game. They played better then I thought but that’s not good enough. The young Qb will get better..and the defense will get a boost here in a few weeks. I’m also not sure I have seen a roster this size at Ashland in awhile. I think they have less then 15 kids in the sophomore class. Depth is a major isssue.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 21, 2021 21:12:05 GMT -5
Bishop Watterson and Lexington are not the same size. BW has 214 more students. 🤷🏻♂️ Same Division. The enrollment numbers the OHSAA is using for this football season is Watterson 264, Lex 290....boys. 99.99% of girls don't play football.
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Post by utsherman on Aug 21, 2021 23:12:37 GMT -5
Bishop Watterson and Lexington are not the same size. BW has 214 more students. 🤷🏻♂️ Same Division. The enrollment numbers the OHSAA is using for this football season is Watterson 264, Lex 290....boys. 99.99% of girls don't play football. You said the “schools” were the same size, not boys enrollment numbers. Perhaps you’ll clarify next time. 👍🏻
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Post by sbclives on Aug 22, 2021 1:42:31 GMT -5
Same Division. The enrollment numbers the OHSAA is using for this football season is Watterson 264, Lex 290....boys. 99.99% of girls don't play football. You said the “schools” were the same size, not boys enrollment numbers. Perhaps you’ll clarify next time. 👍🏻 He is deranged. Will tell everyone he’s perfectly normal and now I see why he doesn’t sit with the general population at football games.
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Post by WoosterBuckeye on Aug 22, 2021 10:12:48 GMT -5
West Holmes definitely seems to be real, it will be interesting to see how things unfold. Wooster showed some talent and bright spots, but seems like this will definitely be a rebuilding year. They only led 7-3 at half against a Division-V Orrville team that is also rebuilding. Much stronger teams coming. I do like the new coach, lots of energy and optimism.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 22, 2021 11:56:55 GMT -5
Same Division. The enrollment numbers the OHSAA is using for this football season is Watterson 264, Lex 290....boys. 99.99% of girls don't play football. You said the “schools” were the same size, not boys enrollment numbers. Perhaps you’ll clarify next time. 👍🏻 No clarification required for an obvious reason. This is a football forum. It does not matter how many girls are in a school as they rarely play football. Historically on here when discussing a sport and enrollment numbers come up, the girls and boys number are viewed separately depending on the gender of the sport. As that is what the OHSAA does.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 22, 2021 11:58:39 GMT -5
You said the “schools” were the same size, not boys enrollment numbers. Perhaps you’ll clarify next time. 👍🏻 He is deranged. Will tell everyone he’s perfectly normal and now I see why he doesn’t sit with the general population at football games. Facts are a derangement? Further proof of your many deficiencies.
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Post by dude on Aug 23, 2021 23:02:24 GMT -5
Same Division. The enrollment numbers the OHSAA is using for this football season is Watterson 264, Lex 290....boys. 99.99% of girls don't play football. You said the “schools” were the same size, not boys enrollment numbers. Perhaps you’ll clarify next time. 👍🏻 They are not the same size. BW would be in Div 4 if not for the CB multiplier.
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Post by Ramsfan09 on Aug 23, 2021 23:03:16 GMT -5
Big difference between West Holmes is the fact that West Holmes has what they have and Watterson can bring in whoever the want. Obviously Watterson isn’t what they were at one time but you dont expect to see good ole West Holmes beat a Private School of their caliber by 10 points.
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Post by dude on Aug 23, 2021 23:05:46 GMT -5
What did everyone think about Lexington vs Ontario? Honestly Lexington looks like a pretty decent team. I know Ontario is very young and it showed last night for sure. However Lexington looks like they may just have themselves a decent season. Having Coach G back probably helps a little also. Maybe Lexington is the dark horse in the league this year and not Madison. I guess only time will tell. I think Ontario is really bad.
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Post by dude on Aug 24, 2021 9:00:56 GMT -5
I guess we will have to wait and see. We waited, saw and now we know.
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Post by dude on Aug 24, 2021 9:27:10 GMT -5
Well either Shelby is going to be Very good or Madison is going to be very bad. I really had high hopes for Madison. Like Ive said before Madison has to get rid of the coach. He may just be worse then the lst one. Wish Conway would comeback. The difference between these two teams is very apparent. But, you trying to get the Madison Coach fired is not going to change the result. IMO. If you lose a 2021 game by 49 points and have lost 18-19 games over the last 2 seasons, many of them by blowout margins, you have a talent issue. Stupka has been successful when he has talent. Your own AD has stated Madison has no talent and most recently your basketball coach, who is a Madison graduate, stated he could not win with Madison kids when asked why he left. Plus he didn't want his own kids in the Madison system. This all shines on a bigger issue than a single coach.
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Post by Ramsfan09 on Aug 24, 2021 11:36:20 GMT -5
The basketball coach was most definitely the problem. Im so glad to see Ontario has taken him off of Madisons hands. Players absolutely hated him as a coach. I mean Rickert was able to win with Madison basketball am I right? Madison Football was able to win when they had a good coach am I right. Conway and Rickert both were very successful. As soon as Madison hired a bad coach for both programs they both went straight down hill. When Masi took over the program died right away and then they hired just as bad of a coach right after him. Ive had players on both the bball team and the football team tell me personally that they could not stand the coaches. Honestly I think Madison needs to hire a young coach like Kobi Johnson thats been around the program and hes younger and can relate to this generation better. Madison has talent but its not being used right. These jr. and seniors were both very successful at the junior high level. I know that doesnt always translate to Varsity but when you have multiple classes that were successful at junior high then you should be able to put together more then what this coach has. Im just saying changes need to be made. Im honestly very surprised that Rickert actually gave this guy another season.
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Post by unc4life on Aug 24, 2021 11:50:25 GMT -5
The basketball coach was most definitely the problem. Im so glad to see Ontario has taken him off of Madisons hands. Players absolutely hated him as a coach. I mean Rickert was able to win with Madison basketball am I right? Madison Football was able to win when they had a good coach am I right. Conway and Rickert both were very successful. As soon as Madison hired a bad coach for both programs they both went straight down hill. When Masi took over the program died right away and then they hired just as bad of a coach right after him. Ive had players on both the bball team and the football team tell me personally that they could not stand the coaches. Honestly I think Madison needs to hire a young coach like Kobi Johnson thats been around the program and hes younger and can relate to this generation better. Madison has talent but its not being used right. These jr. and seniors were both very successful at the junior high level. I know that doesnt always translate to Varsity but when you have multiple classes that were successful at junior high then you should be able to put together more then what this coach has. Im just saying changes need to be made. Im honestly very surprised that Rickert actually gave this guy another season. The question then is who are you going to go get? If I'm a coach that has any kind of credible resume why on earth would I take that job looking at the last 10 years. In the last 10 years Madison had maybe one of the 2 best football players to come through the area in Tyrell Ajian...and they were terrible. There is not excitement for the program. So you dump this guy...who is taking over, and what makes you think he will be any different than the last few guys?
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Post by dude on Aug 24, 2021 13:40:30 GMT -5
The basketball coach was most definitely the problem. Im so glad to see Ontario has taken him off of Madisons hands. Players absolutely hated him as a coach. I mean Rickert was able to win with Madison basketball am I right? Madison Football was able to win when they had a good coach am I right. Conway and Rickert both were very successful. As soon as Madison hired a bad coach for both programs they both went straight down hill. When Masi took over the program died right away and then they hired just as bad of a coach right after him. Ive had players on both the bball team and the football team tell me personally that they could not stand the coaches. Honestly I think Madison needs to hire a young coach like Kobi Johnson thats been around the program and hes younger and can relate to this generation better. Madison has talent but its not being used right. These jr. and seniors were both very successful at the junior high level. I know that doesnt always translate to Varsity but when you have multiple classes that were successful at junior high then you should be able to put together more then what this coach has. Im just saying changes need to be made. Im honestly very surprised that Rickert actually gave this guy another season. The question then is who are you going to go get? If I'm a coach that has any kind of credible resume why on earth would I take that job looking at the last 10 years. In the last 10 years Madison had maybe one of the 2 best football players to come through the area in Tyrell Ajian...and they were terrible. There is not excitement for the program. So you dump this guy...who is taking over, and what makes you think he will be any different than the last few guys? A single sport may drop due to coaching alone. The boy's sports in total at Madison have declined during the past 10 years. That means talent. OR maybe it's athletic department leadership has declined.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 24, 2021 21:40:06 GMT -5
The basketball coach was most definitely the problem. Im so glad to see Ontario has taken him off of Madisons hands. Players absolutely hated him as a coach. I mean Rickert was able to win with Madison basketball am I right? Madison Football was able to win when they had a good coach am I right. Conway and Rickert both were very successful. As soon as Madison hired a bad coach for both programs they both went straight down hill. When Masi took over the program died right away and then they hired just as bad of a coach right after him. Ive had players on both the bball team and the football team tell me personally that they could not stand the coaches. Honestly I think Madison needs to hire a young coach like Kobi Johnson thats been around the program and hes younger and can relate to this generation better. Madison has talent but its not being used right. These jr. and seniors were both very successful at the junior high level. I know that doesnt always translate to Varsity but when you have multiple classes that were successful at junior high then you should be able to put together more then what this coach has. Im just saying changes need to be made. Im honestly very surprised that Rickert actually gave this guy another season. It's so bad at Madison your boy Rickert tried to get out when he applied for the Ontario AD job opening a few years ago. He wasn't thought of highly enough to get it.
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Post by dude on Aug 25, 2021 11:59:40 GMT -5
unc4life, any returning Arrow players back and healthy that missed last week?
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Post by unc4life on Aug 25, 2021 14:23:11 GMT -5
unc4life, any returning Arrow players back and healthy that missed last week? Probably not this week...
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 28, 2021 8:56:51 GMT -5
It's not looking like a Mansfield Senior-Lima Senior Week 3 meeting. Spartans with COVID.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 28, 2021 10:12:42 GMT -5
Per Eitel, Mansfield Senior at North Canton Hoover, Week 3
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Post by dude on Aug 30, 2021 7:23:11 GMT -5
That is a nice pick up.
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Post by dude on Aug 30, 2021 7:24:05 GMT -5
unc4life, any returning Arrow players back and healthy that missed last week? Probably not this week... Things not getting easier for the Arrows.
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Post by unc4life on Aug 30, 2021 8:44:59 GMT -5
Probably not this week... Things not getting easier for the Arrows. Going to be a long year in Arrow land. Bad news is next year might be worse.
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Post by dude on Sept 1, 2021 7:32:33 GMT -5
Orrville @ West Holmes Madison @ Ontario Clearfork@ Lexington Teays Valley @ Ashland Wooster @ Louisville Mount Vernon @ Buckeye Valley Mansfield Senior @ North Canton Hoover
Can the OCC win 5 games this week?
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Post by jmorgret07 on Sept 1, 2021 7:38:46 GMT -5
Mansfield Madison at Ontario cancelled due to COVID issues at Madison.
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Post by unc4life on Sept 1, 2021 9:29:35 GMT -5
Mansfield Madison at Ontario cancelled due to COVID issues at Madison. According to twitter...Madison will be out two weeks. Wooster is now trying to find a game for week 4.
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