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Post by RamBuck02 on Feb 1, 2022 6:41:00 GMT -5
With it being 2022 and now the talk of all the new faces in 2022 we may as well start the new thread. Valentine in at Madison, Who takes over at Mt Vernon and Lex and how will this shake up the OCC?
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Post by dude on Feb 1, 2022 10:44:28 GMT -5
In typical form, most people feel Madison was bad because of coaching, but they have not had OCC Championship talent for many years. valentine may energize the program to a degree but I still see them having a down year but 3-4 wins will be a positive for them. Lexington returns some talent but since they have never been considered a football school, I doubt they get a chance to hire a coach with a great resume. Mt Vernon seems to have become a stepping stone for coaches wanting to get a D1 spot and then move on.
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Post by RamBuck02 on Feb 1, 2022 11:35:39 GMT -5
I definitely am not saying Madison will come out and take over the world by any means. Some of these boys will need to remember how to win it's been so long. But to say there is zero talent walking the halls and that coaching has nothing to do with it is obviously not watching basketball.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 1, 2022 11:52:20 GMT -5
3-4 wins for Madison year one would be huge. 6 year two. Then who knows. It’s going to be a fun experiment. Hopefully the adults in Madison will be patient.
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Post by dude on Feb 1, 2022 12:09:33 GMT -5
I definitely am not saying Madison will come out and take over the world by any means. Some of these boys will need to remember how to win it's been so long. But to say there is zero talent walking the halls and that coaching has nothing to do with it is obviously not watching basketball. I said they do not have OCC Champ talent. Which someone clearly thinks they do since they have already selected them to win the OCC in your poll. Basketball games can be won with a single great player. Football is a different game of needs. The volume of talent Madison has now on the basketball floor is similar to the talent they have had the last 10 or 12 years.
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Post by richrod on Feb 1, 2022 12:48:35 GMT -5
I think the week one game against Shelby will be a good opener. Shelby losing a lot and Madison will/should have improved. I think if Madison competes or even wins that game, it will push them to a 4-5 win season.
I can honestly see them winning 4 games. Some possible combo of 2-1 in the non league would help, but I think they can beat a few teams in the league with just some discipline and solid schemes. It will be interesting though to see how much of a turnaround they will have year one.
That Ashland game might be fun too!
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Post by RamBuck02 on Feb 1, 2022 12:56:01 GMT -5
I definitely am not saying Madison will come out and take over the world by any means. Some of these boys will need to remember how to win it's been so long. But to say there is zero talent walking the halls and that coaching has nothing to do with it is obviously not watching basketball. I said they do not have OCC Champ talent. Which someone clearly thinks they do since they have already selected them to win the OCC in your poll. Basketball games can be won with a single great player. Football is a different game of needs. The volume of talent Madison has now on the basketball floor is similar to the talent they have had the last 10 or 12 years. Ahh i hadn't seen the vote until mentioned it. Basketball can be won with just one great player but is that what's happening or is there a change in energy, attitude, and effort?
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Post by dude on Feb 1, 2022 15:21:04 GMT -5
I said they do not have OCC Champ talent. Which someone clearly thinks they do since they have already selected them to win the OCC in your poll. Basketball games can be won with a single great player. Football is a different game of needs. The volume of talent Madison has now on the basketball floor is similar to the talent they have had the last 10 or 12 years. Ahh i hadn't seen the vote until mentioned it. Basketball can be won with just one great player but is that what's happening or is there a change in energy, attitude, and effort? There is a change in energy and attitude but they have a player that is in his 3rd year of playing varsity basketball, and he has played well this year.
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Post by unc4life on Feb 2, 2022 10:03:36 GMT -5
Am I correct that New Philadelphia joins the OCC this year?
With still many months till the start of the seaon...I expect that the OCC will run through West Holmes again this year.
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Post by RamBuck02 on Feb 2, 2022 10:48:01 GMT -5
Thats correct New Philly does start this year. Yea it definitely would be hard to say anyone other than West Holmes at the moment.
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Post by dude on Feb 14, 2022 8:07:35 GMT -5
Mount Vernon finds their new coach. His name is Jay Campbell and he is coming from Northridge, a Licking County school.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 13:05:57 GMT -5
Heard former Shelby Coach Will has been offered the Lex job. Can anyone confirm
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Post by dude on Mar 15, 2022 14:11:39 GMT -5
Heard former Shelby Coach Will has been offered the Lex job. Can anyone confirm Why?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 15, 2022 16:24:49 GMT -5
Why not? it's been almost 2 months
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Post by A no.1 on Mar 15, 2022 19:40:00 GMT -5
Heard former Shelby Coach Will has been offered the Lex job. Can anyone confirm It is true he was offered. However, he respectfully declined.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 7:30:34 GMT -5
Heard former Shelby Coach Will has been offered the Lex job. Can anyone confirm It is true he was offered. However, he respectfully declined. Interesting that he left them at the altar. I was surprised when I heard he had even applied.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 7:31:19 GMT -5
Heard former Shelby Coach Will has been offered the Lex job. Can anyone confirm Why? EGO.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 16, 2022 7:32:26 GMT -5
He and his wife both teach at Shelby. Wouldn't be surprised if he felt like keeping his day-to-day affairs more simple while indulging in the radio gig he's had.
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Post by richrod on Mar 16, 2022 7:37:50 GMT -5
He and his wife both teach at Shelby. Wouldn't be surprised if he felt like keeping his day-to-day affairs more simple while indulging in the radio gig he's had. there is also no Brennan Armstrong to ride deep into the playoffs either. Lex will be better off with someone who would be more committed to building the program. Hope they find their guy, because its always nice to have a competitive Lex program in the OCC.
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Post by dude on Mar 16, 2022 7:55:16 GMT -5
If this was true I wondered why they would offer. I know Lexington is not a football power but without a D1 college recruit at QB in his junior and senior season, this guy is 13-27. Armstrong was very special and the season after leaving Shelby was 5-5 and this guy walked away. I think he is a nice guy but still unproven to know if he could help a program.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 16, 2022 10:14:02 GMT -5
I agree with those points. To play the perspective of Lexington, I think you can reasonably explain away the 2013 season for being a project to clean up the McCoy wreckage from 2011 and 2012 in an interview. And 2014 was three one point games away from being a 5-5 season (based on mainly PATs, which is not fully in a coach's hands, or foot, for that matter), and another 6 point loss from being 6-4. A total record of 4-2 against Lex. If I were the Lex brass, I could see a way to justify the hire in lieu of having better candidates. The nice guy thing is probably another thing that makes for a likeable interview.
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Post by dude on Mar 16, 2022 10:44:50 GMT -5
I agree with those points. To play the perspective of Lexington, I think you can reasonably explain away the 2013 season for being a project to clean up the McCoy wreckage from 2011 and 2012 in an interview. And 2014 was three one point games away from being a 5-5 season (based on mainly PATs, which is not fully in a coach's hands, or foot, for that matter), and another 6 point loss from being 6-4. A total record of 4-2 against Lex. If I were the Lex brass, I could see a way to justify the hire in lieu of having better candidates. The nice guy thing is probably another thing that makes for a likeable interview. All go points, but you forgot to mention in 2014 the 2 wins he did have were both against 0-10 teams. With the applicant pool for all jobs being much lower than it used to be 10 years ago, I would imagine having someone that has already held a head coaching position would attract some interest regardless of their record. If we listed every football coach that had a winning record against Lexington, your computer's keyboard would run out of ink.
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Post by unc4life on Mar 16, 2022 12:43:57 GMT -5
Heard former Shelby Coach Will has been offered the Lex job. Can anyone confirm Why? Should wait another year and he can have the Ashland job.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 16, 2022 14:30:50 GMT -5
He and his wife both teach at Shelby. Wouldn't be surprised if he felt like keeping his day-to-day affairs more simple while indulging in the radio gig he's had. there is also no Brennan Armstrong to ride deep into the playoffs either. Lex will be better off with someone who would be more committed to building the program. Hope they find their guy, because its always nice to have a competitive Lex program in the OCC. Nor is there a horse like Cade Stover to ride at Lex.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 16, 2022 14:35:09 GMT -5
I agree with those points. To play the perspective of Lexington, I think you can reasonably explain away the 2013 season for being a project to clean up the McCoy wreckage from 2011 and 2012 in an interview. And 2014 was three one point games away from being a 5-5 season (based on mainly PATs, which is not fully in a coach's hands, or foot, for that matter), and another 6 point loss from being 6-4. A total record of 4-2 against Lex. If I were the Lex brass, I could see a way to justify the hire in lieu of having better candidates. The nice guy thing is probably another thing that makes for a likeable interview. All go points, but you forgot to mention in 2014 the 2 wins he did have were both against 0-10 teams. With the applicant pool for all jobs being much lower than it used to be 10 years ago, I would imagine having someone that has already held a head coaching position would attract some interest regardless of their record. If we listed every football coach that had a winning record against Lexington, your computer's keyboard would run out of ink. "With the applicant pool for all jobs being much lower than it used to be 10 years ago". Can the same be said for basketball?
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Post by fanofthegame on Mar 16, 2022 15:07:02 GMT -5
Nobody wants to coach, officiate. Cultural changes are taking the fun out of high school sports.
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Post by ohioraised on Mar 17, 2022 7:28:08 GMT -5
All go points, but you forgot to mention in 2014 the 2 wins he did have were both against 0-10 teams. With the applicant pool for all jobs being much lower than it used to be 10 years ago, I would imagine having someone that has already held a head coaching position would attract some interest regardless of their record. If we listed every football coach that had a winning record against Lexington, your computer's keyboard would run out of ink. "With the applicant pool for all jobs being much lower than it used to be 10 years ago". Can the same be said for basketball? What you are really asking is can this be your excuse for hiring a bad basketball coach.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 17, 2022 11:06:26 GMT -5
Speaking from ignorance? Do you know who the applicants were?
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Post by dude on Mar 17, 2022 13:29:51 GMT -5
What you are really asking is can this be your excuse for hiring a bad basketball coach. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
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Post by dude on Mar 17, 2022 13:32:17 GMT -5
Nobody wants to coach, officiate. Cultural changes are taking the fun out of high school sports. This does seem to be very true and getting worse. I believe the actions of fans and some coaches are the major contributing factor to the decline of officials. It will very soon be a problem that officials will be telling schedulers they will do a game for $100 or not at all.
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