FC 2022

[cleareyesfullheart]

Aug 15, 2022 8:07:47 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

Aug 11, 2022 14:06:47 GMT -5 cleareyesfullheart said:

If Lucas were to join the FC, it would make the conference very good towards the top in basketball and football. Would love to see it eventually happen.

They need to give NL the boot. Until then, we'll be out here in the cold. Lol.

You are right. Whether it is you guys or someone else that is replacing them, they have to go.

[cbus]

I wonder if Lucas or the FC would want them to join as a football only member?

[Deleted]

You may as well just make them a full member. If NL doesn’t ever go back to 11 man you have that spot filled and with expanding schedules in volleyball, basketball and baseball 2 more conference games doesn’t hurt

[cleareyesfullheart]

They would be a good addition for basketball and baseball as well

[dnis30]

Aug 15, 2022 10:06:23 GMT -5 cbus said:

I wonder if Lucas or the FC would want them to join as a football only member?

I'm with everyone else, may as well just add them for all sports. Lucas has good basketball, baseball, track, softball, volleyball, etc. They've recently started a wrestling program as well.

[cleareyesfullheart]

Aug 15, 2022 12:43:59 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

Aug 15, 2022 10:06:23 GMT -5 cbus said:

I wonder if Lucas or the FC would want them to join as a football only member?

I'm with everyone else, may as well just add them for all sports. Lucas has good basketball, baseball, track, softball, volleyball, etc. They've recently started a wrestling program as well.

And no matter how they do in other sports, them being in the fc for football/bball/baseball would make up for any other sports advantage that new london could possibly have.

[sbclives]

It almost makes too much sense. Lucas in the FC makes that conference so much better. I know sometimes when a league has been intact for a long time you get comfortable with it but this move would put much needed life into the FC.

[Willard Fillmore]

Removes 1 of the 5 Huron schools and adds a southern Richland county school

[cbus]

Aug 15, 2022 12:43:59 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

Aug 15, 2022 10:06:23 GMT -5 cbus said:

I wonder if Lucas or the FC would want them to join as a football only member?

I'm with everyone else, may as well just add them for all sports. Lucas has good basketball, baseball, track, softball, volleyball, etc. They've recently started a wrestling program as well.

I was thinking of travel distance for the other sports. It's 42 miles from NSP to Lucas. It's an extra 16 miles (32 round trip) from Crestview to Lucas.

[dnis30]

Aug 16, 2022 6:35:47 GMT -5 cbus said:

Aug 15, 2022 12:43:59 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

I'm with everyone else, may as well just add them for all sports. Lucas has good basketball, baseball, track, softball, volleyball, etc. They've recently started a wrestling program as well.

I was thinking of travel distance for the other sports. It's 42 miles from NSP to Lucas. It's an extra 16 miles (32 round trip) from Crestview to Lucas.

That'd be a hop, skip and a jump for us. Lol. Over the last few years we've made some long hauls come football season:

Hannibal River (171 miles)
Troy Christian (148 miles)
Bridgeport (137 miles)
Lowellville (118 miles)
Leavittsburg LaBrae (106 miles)
Lima Central Catholic (102 miles)
Fisher Catholic (98 miles)
Waterloo (95 miles)
West Jefferson (85 miles)
Mogadore (71 miles)
Marion Pleasant (50 miles)

This year we have:

Fort Loramie (141 miles)
Arlington (79 miles)

[sbclives]

Aug 16, 2022 12:51:49 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

Aug 16, 2022 6:35:47 GMT -5 cbus said:

I was thinking of travel distance for the other sports. It's 42 miles from NSP to Lucas. It's an extra 16 miles (32 round trip) from Crestview to Lucas.

That'd be a hop, skip and a jump for us. Lol. Over the last few years we've made some long hauls come football season:

Hannibal River (171 miles)
Troy Christian (148 miles)
Bridgeport (137 miles)
Lowellville (118 miles)
Leavittsburg LaBrae (106 miles)
Lima Central Catholic (102 miles)
Fisher Catholic (98 miles)
Waterloo (95 miles)
West Jefferson (85 miles)
Mogadore (71 miles)
Marion Pleasant (50 miles)

This year we have:

Fort Loramie (141 miles)
Arlington (79 miles)

I can see why Lucas would jump in a heartbeat to join the FC if a spot ever came open. They had to take out a few loans for all that gas money. Lol

[dnis30]

Aug 16, 2022 13:35:25 GMT -5 sbclives said:

Aug 16, 2022 12:51:49 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

That'd be a hop, skip and a jump for us. Lol. Over the last few years we've made some long hauls come football season:

Hannibal River (171 miles)
Troy Christian (148 miles)
Bridgeport (137 miles)
Lowellville (118 miles)
Leavittsburg LaBrae (106 miles)
Lima Central Catholic (102 miles)
Fisher Catholic (98 miles)
Waterloo (95 miles)
West Jefferson (85 miles)
Mogadore (71 miles)
Marion Pleasant (50 miles)

This year we have:

Fort Loramie (141 miles)
Arlington (79 miles)

I can see why Lucas would jump in a heartbeat to join the FC if a spot ever came open. They had to take out a few loans for all that gas money. Lol

Yes. No question. We have interest in joining really any league. WCAL, MOAC, KMAC, FC, etc. As an Independent, the scheduling and travel is a royal pain.

Anyone have any information on whether or not the Firelands is having legitimate conversations about adding Lucas? It just shocks me that they'd rather have New London over us...

[fbfan]

Yes, scheduling Varsity FB as an independent is tough. But who is on Lucas' schedule for all the other "non money" varsity sports, and at the JV, Freshman, and middle school levels? How would the overall district travel be effected by joining the FC and having to travel to play league schedules at those levels, compared to what it is now. What would it mean for the weekday, school night trips at those levels? That is the kind of thing administrators have to look at.

A FB only schedule may work for both Lucas and the FC, and would explain why the FC is not ready to give up on NL yet as a league member.

[cleareyesfullheart]

Aug 17, 2022 9:34:03 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

Aug 16, 2022 13:35:25 GMT -5 sbclives said:

I can see why Lucas would jump in a heartbeat to join the FC if a spot ever came open. They had to take out a few loans for all that gas money. Lol

Yes. No question. We have interest in joining really any league. WCAL, MOAC, KMAC, FC, etc. As an Independent, the scheduling and travel is a royal pain.

Anyone have any information on whether or not the Firelands is having legitimate conversations about adding Lucas? It just shocks me that they'd rather have New London over us...

I have heard they are talking about adding a team in place of NL but I am not sure who would be the frontrunner to replace them. Lucas, Willard, or SE all come to mind

[Deleted]

I would think a joint application with Willard to the N-10 would be better than joining the FC for football only

[fbfan]

Aug 17, 2022 10:36:51 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

I would think a joint application with Willard to the N-10 would be better than joining the FC for football only

It would have same result as Willard + Pleasant, so not better. 

[cleareyesfullheart]

Aug 17, 2022 10:47:05 GMT -5 fbfan said:

Aug 17, 2022 10:36:51 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

I would think a joint application with Willard to the N-10 would be better than joining the FC for football only

It would have same result as Willard + Pleasant, so not better. 

I think you can add Lucas for all sports.

[Deleted]

Aug 17, 2022 10:47:05 GMT -5 fbfan said:

Aug 17, 2022 10:36:51 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

I would think a joint application with Willard to the N-10 would be better than joining the FC for football only

It would have same result as Willard + Pleasant, so not better. 

Wrong. The N-10 was taking applications. The FC is not

[fbfan]

Aug 17, 2022 13:02:12 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

Aug 17, 2022 10:47:05 GMT -5 fbfan said:

It would have same result as Willard + Pleasant, so not better. 

Wrong. The N-10 was taking applications. The FC is not

No, I'm not. I said the result would be the same. The N10's Constitution says that a school may apply by submitting a proper application to the Commissioner who then will present it at the next meeting. That's what happened. That means that they will ALWAYS take an application. Doesn't mean they will consider, deny, or approve. (Although I think they would probably at least discuss or hold a courtesy vote. The FC would probably do the same. So not "better".   

The N10 website says: "Beginning with the 2017 season, Ridgedale competed independently in football, giving the N10 eight football-playing members, and the Rockets left the N10 altogether following the 2020-21 season. The league is content to stay at eight teams for now but has not ruled out future expansion."

If they rejected Willard and Pleasant, what makes you think they would approve Willard and Lucas?

[Deleted]

Aug 17, 2022 14:33:31 GMT -5 fbfan said:

Aug 17, 2022 13:02:12 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

Wrong. The N-10 was taking applications. The FC is not

No, I'm not. I said the result would be the same. The N10's Constitution says that a school may apply by submitting a proper application to the Commissioner who then will present it at the next meeting. That's what happened. That means that they will ALWAYS take an application. Doesn't mean they will consider, deny, or approve. (Although I think they would probably at least discuss or hold a courtesy vote. The FC would probably do the same. So not "better".   

The N10 website says: "Beginning with the 2017 season, Ridgedale competed independently in football, giving the N10 eight football-playing members, and the Rockets left the N10 altogether following the 2020-21 season. The league is content to stay at eight teams for now but has not ruled out future expansion."

If they rejected Willard and Pleasant, what makes you think they would approve Willard and Lucas?

Where did I say they would approve?

[fbfan]

Aug 17, 2022 15:36:22 GMT -5 @bighoss said:

Aug 17, 2022 14:33:31 GMT -5 fbfan said:

No, I'm not. I said the result would be the same. The N10's Constitution says that a school may apply by submitting a proper application to the Commissioner who then will present it at the next meeting. That's what happened. That means that they will ALWAYS take an application. Doesn't mean they will consider, deny, or approve. (Although I think they would probably at least discuss or hold a courtesy vote. The FC would probably do the same. So not "better".   

The N10 website says: "Beginning with the 2017 season, Ridgedale competed independently in football, giving the N10 eight football-playing members, and the Rockets left the N10 altogether following the 2020-21 season. The league is content to stay at eight teams for now but has not ruled out future expansion."

If they rejected Willard and Pleasant, what makes you think they would approve Willard and Lucas?

Where did I say they would approve?

You didn't. You said I was wrong. I wasn't. How is applying with Willard to N10 "better" than joining the FC in FB only?

[jmorgret07]

New London cancels its 8-man season today.

[skippy21]

Is new london still going to play a jv schedule? Or is football done at NL?

[sbclives]

Aug 17, 2022 16:48:26 GMT -5 jmorgret07 said:

New London cancels its 8-man season today.

So if they canceled 8 man football then how would they be able to go forward with a JV team?

[jmorgret07]

It sounds like they’re going to play some 11-man JV games:
sanduskyregister.com/news/403060/new-london-cancels-8-man-football-games-against-smcc-danbury/

[1belowthepressbox]

Aug 17, 2022 20:05:07 GMT -5 skippy21 said:

Is new london still going to play a jv schedule? Or is football done at NL?

Football has been done at New London for awhile now. It will not recover. Not enough people care about sports there.

[dnis30]

Aug 17, 2022 16:48:26 GMT -5 jmorgret07 said:

New London cancels its 8-man season today.

No offense to the fine people of New London, but no football should mean the end of their FC membership.

The time has come to trim the fat and bring in Lucas. A program that has been to the playoffs 8 consecutive years and has 14 playoff
wins is that time. A state runner-up. 4 regional final appearances. A team that, in that 8 year span, has accumulated a 12-3 record
against D2, D3, D4 and D5 schools. A team that, just last year, beat Mogadore and Fort Loramie by a combined score of 45-8. A
team that has finished top 3 in their region 4 years in a row, with two of those seasons being the #1 overall seed.

In boys basketball, Lucas has been damn near just as good. Two recent regional appearances one being one of the last 8 remaining
teams left when the state idiotically ended the 2020 season. That team was 26-1 and ranked in the top 5 in the state. They return the
entire starting line-up this year from a team that went 18-5 a year ago.

[1belowthepressbox]

That's impressive. The FC is extremely predictable year in and year out. Lucas would definitely throw a wrench into the traditional FC standings.

I have a question for everyone. How do you all think Flyer life will be when coach Livengood decides to finally leave the program?

[sbclives]

Aug 19, 2022 11:34:40 GMT -5 1belowthepressbox said:

That's impressive. The FC is extremely predictable year in and year out. Lucas would definitely throw a wrench into the traditional FC standings.

I have a question for everyone. How do you all think Flyer life will be when coach Livengood decides to finally leave the program?

It’ll take a little hit for sure. Just look at Huron since Legando left. They’ll have a good team in some years now but not like it used to be where it was year in and year out of solid teams. Then again the landscape in Huron is changing so that doesn’t help.

I think the FC has become stale and needs something new and I think a school like Lucas would change things quickly. There would be some great battles with SP, Crestview and WR. That would be a very good small school league with those four in the FC.

[cleareyesfullheart]

Aug 19, 2022 11:34:40 GMT -5 1belowthepressbox said:

That's impressive. The FC is extremely predictable year in and year out. Lucas would definitely throw a wrench into the traditional FC standings.

I have a question for everyone. How do you all think Flyer life will be when coach Livengood decides to finally leave the program?

Obviously coach Livengood is one of the best to ever do it. About to be 1/17 coaches ever to get 300 wins and also 1/7 to get 300 at same school. I think it really depends on who his replacement would be. Luckily the culture is already set and if a good coach were to come in, they would have a good foundation. I think there is some pretty good classes coming up as well. Not sure how much longer he will be there. Anyone know?