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Post by baldref on Jan 12, 2023 19:03:28 GMT -5
Is there a worse venue for major college basketball than the schott, aka value city arena? I've been to cyo youth games where there's more enthusiasm. Basically an 18000 seat morgue with terrible site venues. Geez....
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 12, 2023 20:45:50 GMT -5
That was a rough one tonight. Favored by 14 at home against the worst team in the Big Ten. Sunday won’t be any easier at Rutgers who will be looking for revenge from their first game.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 12, 2023 22:40:47 GMT -5
Is there a worse venue for major college basketball than the schott, aka value city arena? I've been to cyo youth games where there's more enthusiasm. Basically an 18000 seat morgue with terrible site venues. Geez.... This is about 100 times someone on here has whined about the Schott. NO major college in their right mind is going to build a NEW 5000 seat arena. That sounds loud like Duke's old rodent infested place.
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Post by dude on Jan 12, 2023 22:49:13 GMT -5
That was a rough one tonight. Favored by 14 at home against the worst team in the Big Ten. Sunday won’t be any easier at Rutgers who will be looking for revenge from their first game. Poor shooting and shot selection and very little team "flow".
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 13, 2023 6:26:22 GMT -5
That was a rough one tonight. Favored by 14 at home against the worst team in the Big Ten. Sunday won’t be any easier at Rutgers who will be looking for revenge from their first game. Poor shooting and shot selection and very little team "flow". Yeah the whole team just seemed out of it. No energy. How many missed lay ups? Just a very off night.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 13, 2023 6:39:07 GMT -5
I think it was a combo of things Purdue loss hangover Poor opponent and playing down to their level. Key first game back and getting him involved Flat It happens, but the final 5 minutes of urgency comeback was good to see.
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Post by cbus on Jan 13, 2023 9:11:38 GMT -5
The Buckeyes are a miracle 3 away from being 1-4 in conference play.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Jan 13, 2023 12:41:06 GMT -5
Buckeyes trying to play their way to the NIT
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Jan 14, 2023 2:32:56 GMT -5
Buckeyes trying to play their way to the NIT May I remind you Michigan is 9-7.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 15, 2023 16:42:06 GMT -5
4 losses in a row. Two very ugly played games in a row. Hopefully they get it together quickly. Sueing with maybe one of his worst games overall at Ohio State?
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Post by baldref on Jan 15, 2023 20:55:30 GMT -5
Bucks have a young rather inexperienced team but seems like every season there is a spell like this with this program. We shall see how the players and the coaches respond. As noted elsewhere, scum is struggling too
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 15, 2023 21:39:55 GMT -5
Bucks have a young rather inexperienced team but seems like every season there is a spell like this with this program. We shall see how the players and the coaches respond. As noted elsewhere, scum is struggling to I disagree a bit on the “inexperienced” team. Sueing is a 6th year senior. McNeil is a graduate transfer who was a multiple year starter at WVU. Key is basically a 3 year starter. Likele was a 3 year starter at Oklahoma State. Tanner Holden was at Wright St for 2 years.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Jan 16, 2023 0:14:43 GMT -5
Holtman should’ve been gone after the oral roberts game.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 16, 2023 8:48:40 GMT -5
I believe he certainly gets another year . He’s got his very best class inbound.Hes got 4 very good top shelf players coming . Though I agree,,, he needs to step it up somehow whether in his assistant coaches or being a better end of game manager .
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Post by dude on Jan 16, 2023 9:15:41 GMT -5
Bucks have a young rather inexperienced team but seems like every season there is a spell like this with this program. We shall see how the players and the coaches respond. As noted elsewhere, scum is struggling to I disagree a bit on the “inexperienced” team. Sueing is a 6th year senior. McNeil is a graduate transfer who was a multiple year starter at WVU. Key is basically a 3 year starter. Likele was a 3 year starter at Oklahoma State. Tanner Holden was at Wright St for 2 years. I can agree with you in some ways. Sueing being a 6th year man should not be making some of the dumb mistakes he does. The turnovers in crucial moments of a game shows me he is a good role guy but to expect the player from the Texas Tech game in Maui is unrealistic.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 16, 2023 9:54:51 GMT -5
I disagree a bit on the “inexperienced” team. Sueing is a 6th year senior. McNeil is a graduate transfer who was a multiple year starter at WVU. Key is basically a 3 year starter. Likele was a 3 year starter at Oklahoma State. Tanner Holden was at Wright St for 2 years. I can agree with you in some ways. Sueing being a 6th year man should not be making some of the dumb mistakes he does. The turnovers in crucial moments of a game shows me he is a good role guy but to expect the player from the Texas Tech game in Maui is unrealistic. My only point is we can’t say these guys are inexperienced. All the players I named have played a lot of college basketball.
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Post by dude on Jan 16, 2023 10:18:33 GMT -5
I can agree with you in some ways. Sueing being a 6th year man should not be making some of the dumb mistakes he does. The turnovers in crucial moments of a game shows me he is a good role guy but to expect the player from the Texas Tech game in Maui is unrealistic. My only point is we can’t say these guys are inexperienced. All the players I named have played a lot of college basketball. Very true. Maybe defining there roles better could help them a little.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 16, 2023 11:12:37 GMT -5
I believe he certainly gets another year . He’s got his very best class inbound.Hes got 4 very good top shelf players coming . Though I agree,,, he needs to step it up somehow whether in his assistant coaches or being a better end of game manager . Would they have lost these games if Key hadn't been injured?
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Post by baldref on Jan 16, 2023 16:27:01 GMT -5
Bucks have a young rather inexperienced team but seems like every season there is a spell like this with this program. We shall see how the players and the coaches respond. As noted elsewhere, scum is struggling to I disagree a bit on the “inexperienced” team. Sueing is a 6th year senior. McNeil is a graduate transfer who was a multiple year starter at WVU. Key is basically a 3 year starter. Likele was a 3 year starter at Oklahoma State. Tanner Holden was at Wright St for 2 years. You're right. Forgot about Holden and Likele knew about the other three. Excuses for the last four games are tough to come by.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 16, 2023 16:51:19 GMT -5
I disagree a bit on the “inexperienced” team. Sueing is a 6th year senior. McNeil is a graduate transfer who was a multiple year starter at WVU. Key is basically a 3 year starter. Likele was a 3 year starter at Oklahoma State. Tanner Holden was at Wright St for 2 years. You're right. Forgot about Holden and Likele knew about the other three. Excuses for the last four games are tough to come by. I don’t think we can really make any excuses, they just need to get their sh*t together and figure it out, both players and coaches.
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Post by baldref on Jan 18, 2023 21:14:13 GMT -5
If you would have told me at season start that this team would be this bad,I'd have laughed at you. Five in a row and counting. No intensity until last rwo minutes of game. Again long scoreless stretches- 5 minutes in 1st half and 6 minutes in 2nd half. Something is majorly wrong with this team and program.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 18, 2023 21:59:59 GMT -5
Ohio State Women are now 18-0 and ranked #2 in the nation!
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 18, 2023 22:29:33 GMT -5
This is getting hard to watch. Every game I think “maybe they’ll turn it around this time”. Sueing is in a terrible funk right now. Thornton has regressed a bit from the beginning of the season. Sensabaugh only cares about scoring. Their next two games are Iowa and Illinois, could easily be two more losses.
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Post by dude on Jan 18, 2023 22:44:12 GMT -5
This is getting hard to watch. Every game I think “maybe they’ll turn it around this time”. Sueing is in a terrible funk right now. Thornton has regressed a bit from the beginning of the season. Sensabaugh only cares about scoring. Their next two games are Iowa and Illinois, could easily be two more losses. Their defense is horrible and they have no go to guy. Sueing is a nice player that has had moments but he is a 2nd or 3rd option guy for a team. Key has great games but only when the perimeter is a threat to the opponent. Sensabaugh can get 16 points from 12 shots but give up 18 points on the other end.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 18, 2023 22:45:21 GMT -5
I saw an interesting stat online tonight that I never realized. In 13 years as a head coach, Holtmann has 0 conference championships. I honestly would’ve guessed he had at least 1 at Butler. I really like him and think he seems like a good dude but this is getting a bit scary. My gut feeling is that Gene Smith gives him another year due to the class he has coming in, but that’ll be it if he can’t turn it around.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 19, 2023 5:58:06 GMT -5
The Ohio State Women try and keep their perfect record intact tonight at 6:30 vs. Northwestern (on BTN)
The stretch run is going to be challenging, with a group of highly ranked opponents, as they work toward a #1 seed in the B1G and NCAA tournaments.
Jan. 23....#10 Iowa Jan. 26....@ #6 Indiana Feb. 5.....@ #11 Maryland Feb. 13....#6 Indiana Feb. 20....@ #14 Michigan Feb. 24....#24 Maryland
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Post by dude on Jan 19, 2023 8:17:50 GMT -5
I saw an interesting stat online tonight that I never realized. In 13 years as a head coach, Holtmann has 0 conference championships. I honestly would’ve guessed he had at least 1 at Butler. I really like him and think he seems like a good dude but this is getting a bit scary. My gut feeling is that Gene Smith gives him another year due to the class he has coming in, but that’ll be it if he can’t turn it around. You may be right about another year, if this year finishes above water. If not we could see some commits changing their minds. Not having a strong, solid jr or sr go to guy hurts the development of these young guys.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 19, 2023 8:42:31 GMT -5
Something else I was thinking about is everyone is talking about Holtmann, and rightfully so, but what about the assistants? Maybe they're not as strong of coaches as we thought? This is the first year Diebler has been the head offensive coach, maybe the offense he's running just isn't right for this team? What adjustments is he making? Lots of questions to figure out with this team right now. That Maui trip seems so long ago at this point.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 19, 2023 8:44:26 GMT -5
I saw an interesting stat online tonight that I never realized. In 13 years as a head coach, Holtmann has 0 conference championships. I honestly would’ve guessed he had at least 1 at Butler. I really like him and think he seems like a good dude but this is getting a bit scary. My gut feeling is that Gene Smith gives him another year due to the class he has coming in, but that’ll be it if he can’t turn it around. You may be right about another year, if this year finishes above water. If not we could see some commits changing their minds. Not having a strong, solid jr or sr go to guy hurts the development of these young guys. I just have this suspicion that Gene will look at the current freshman class and the class coming in next year, plus any returners in the upper classes. and tell Holtmann he's giving him another year to make things work with the team he would have in 23/24.
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Post by dude on Jan 19, 2023 8:53:35 GMT -5
You may be right about another year, if this year finishes above water. If not we could see some commits changing their minds. Not having a strong, solid jr or sr go to guy hurts the development of these young guys. I just have this suspicion that Gene will look at the current freshman class and the class coming in next year, plus any returners in the upper classes. and tell Holtmann he's giving him another year to make things work with the team he would have in 23/24. Recruiting is key I think and this season and next are good classes. But I think if Sensabaugh is starter the other 4 guys have to be great on defense. This transfer portal can be a tool for 1 or 2 role guys but I do not see building a team from it. Holtmann has normally played solid defense and this team is not. And the best defender this season is a transfer that was a starter early in season.
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