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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 19, 2023 15:21:55 GMT -5
Anyone see the article about the investigation into Xichigan stealing signs by sending people to future opponents’ games and possible playoff opponents’ games?
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Oct 19, 2023 19:58:11 GMT -5
If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 19, 2023 20:17:17 GMT -5
Booger boy better improve at it or quit pissing people off drawing attention to himself and his program.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Oct 19, 2023 22:58:58 GMT -5
Whoever stole TCU’s signs didn’t do it right lol.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Oct 19, 2023 23:15:44 GMT -5
Whoever stole TCU’s signs didn’t do it right lol. ok, I have to hand it to you; that was funny
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 20, 2023 5:34:01 GMT -5
Near as I can tell Michigan is being accused of doing something legal.
A practice pretty much every team in football does to some level or another. Clemson is notorious for its sign stealing operation.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 20, 2023 5:34:35 GMT -5
Whoever stole TCU’s signs didn’t do it right lol. Did a great job against Georgia and Michigan State too.
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Post by mcm1019 on Oct 20, 2023 6:26:12 GMT -5
Near as I can tell Michigan is being accused of doing something legal. A practice pretty much every team in football does to some level or another. Clemson is notorious for its sign stealing operation. There's an article posted this morning on ESPN regarding the issue. There's clearly an illegal part to these accusations. I have no idea if Michigan violated the rules or not, but Harbaugh seems to irked somebody with the NCAA.
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Post by tori2 on Oct 20, 2023 7:51:37 GMT -5
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 20, 2023 10:38:42 GMT -5
Near as I can tell Michigan is being accused of doing something legal. A practice pretty much every team in football does to some level or another. Clemson is notorious for its sign stealing operation. There's an article posted this morning on ESPN regarding the issue. There's clearly an illegal part to these accusations. I have no idea if Michigan violated the rules or not, but Harbaugh seems to irked somebody with the NCAA. Strange how this pop’s up not long after Harbaugh called for revenue sharing with the players…
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Post by Buckeye2b on Oct 20, 2023 12:48:13 GMT -5
Personally I love it... the Michigan faithful up here are keeping it all quite secretive. Maybe this is more fun than "tatoo-gate" was for me personally. LOL!!!
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 23, 2023 15:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 23, 2023 15:09:26 GMT -5
Making 55k a year, someone was reimbursing him for all these expenses. Who was it? Harbaugh?
He had tickets purchased on both sides of the stadium for this past weekend's Ohio State/Penn State game. Crazy.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 23, 2023 17:03:43 GMT -5
Making 55k a year, someone was reimbursing him for all these expenses. Who was it? Harbaugh? He had tickets purchased on both sides of the stadium for this past weekend's Ohio State/Penn State game. Crazy. I’m not gonna lie I don’t particularly have a problem with what went down. Stealing signs is part of the game and I wouldn’t be surprised if Michigan is the only school doing it just like this. As for the money? It wouldn’t come from the actual school budget. Compliance and audit would pick up on that. Perhaps a booster?
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Post by dude on Oct 23, 2023 17:33:38 GMT -5
Making 55k a year, someone was reimbursing him for all these expenses. Who was it? Harbaugh? He had tickets purchased on both sides of the stadium for this past weekend's Ohio State/Penn State game. Crazy. I’m not gonna lie I don’t particularly have a problem with what went down. Stealing signs is part of the game and I wouldn’t be surprised if Michigan is the only school doing it just like this. As for the money? It wouldn’t come from the actual school budget. Compliance and audit would pick up on that. Perhaps a booster? We get it, You don't have a problem when Xichigan does not follow the rules. But a pattern of cheating is forming with a school that has been traditionally on good terms.
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 23, 2023 17:44:18 GMT -5
Making 55k a year, someone was reimbursing him for all these expenses. Who was it? Harbaugh? He had tickets purchased on both sides of the stadium for this past weekend's Ohio State/Penn State game. Crazy. I’m not gonna lie I don’t particularly have a problem with what went down. Stealing signs is part of the game and I wouldn’t be surprised if Michigan is the only school doing it just like this. As for the money? It wouldn’t come from the actual school budget. Compliance and audit would pick up on that. Perhaps a booster? You truly think that other teams are sending low level staffers to 30+ games, and buying tickets on both sides of the field so they can record the teams signals? There’s no way.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 23, 2023 18:01:26 GMT -5
I’m not gonna lie I don’t particularly have a problem with what went down. Stealing signs is part of the game and I wouldn’t be surprised if Michigan is the only school doing it just like this. As for the money? It wouldn’t come from the actual school budget. Compliance and audit would pick up on that. Perhaps a booster? You truly think that other teams are sending low level staffers to 30+ games, and buying tickets on both sides of the field so they can record the teams signals? There’s no way. Ever spent any time down south? They’d do way worse than that to win football games.
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 23, 2023 18:09:33 GMT -5
You truly think that other teams are sending low level staffers to 30+ games, and buying tickets on both sides of the field so they can record the teams signals? There’s no way. Ever spent any time down south? They’d do way worse than that to win football games. Such as?
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 23, 2023 18:12:13 GMT -5
Ever spent any time down south? They’d do way worse than that to win football games. Such as? You think schools that arrange hookers for recruits and hand out cash in paper bags wouldn’t travel the country stealing signs?
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 23, 2023 18:18:24 GMT -5
You think schools that arrange hookers for recruits and hand out cash in paper bags wouldn’t travel the country stealing signs? I don’t think they are doing what Michigan did. No.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 23, 2023 18:22:19 GMT -5
You think schools that arrange hookers for recruits and hand out cash in paper bags wouldn’t travel the country stealing signs? I don’t think they are doing what Michigan did. No. I certainly wouldn’t put it past them. What I am interested in though is the idea he paid for the tickets on his own credit card. Guy’s a former marine captain and a naval academy graduate but he uses his own credit card?
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Post by Birdman on Oct 23, 2023 19:09:59 GMT -5
I’ll be completely honest, if Ohio State got caught doing this I would be ashamed and embarrassed. I’m not asking or demanding anyone have the same feelings or opinion on the matter, but to think the team I follow the most is in one fashion or another cheating doesn’t sit well with me.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 23, 2023 20:28:08 GMT -5
Remember what the NCAA did to OSU, and to players for breaking rules by selling/trading things that belonged to them, and the coach for trying to cover for them? That was not nearly as bad as breaking the rules to win games. If this turns out to be proven, Xichigan should forfeit every game in which it can be proven that they scouted an upcoming opponent in the manner described.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Oct 23, 2023 21:31:56 GMT -5
Harbaugh definitely will try to get to the nfl now.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 24, 2023 6:48:49 GMT -5
This is a scandal of major proportions. If the allegations prove true, Michigan football will be in for a serious impact. Harbaugh may not survive this.
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Post by baldref on Oct 24, 2023 8:17:42 GMT -5
Seems some scUM apologists are quite content with the situation, rationalizing that "everyone does it" and the NCAA is picking on HAirball and scUM. Seems to me that based on this current situation and past history with Hairball recruiting and some past issues with the scUM basketball program, there's appears to me at least that there is a lack of moral compass and direction in the scUM athletic department and in an university that likes to portray itself as squeaky clean and morally just,
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Post by Birdman on Oct 24, 2023 10:36:49 GMT -5
Seems some scUM apologists are quite content with the situation, rationalizing that "everyone does it" and the NCAA is picking on HAirball and scUM. Seems to me that based on this current situation and past history with Hairball recruiting and some past issues with the scUM basketball program, there's appears to me at least that there is a lack of moral compass and direction in the scUM athletic department and in an university that likes to portray itself as squeaky clean and morally just, that rationalization is honestly just as bad as the behavior. “Everyone does it.” Not everyone does it first and foremost. Second not everyone steals or commits insurance fraud, but some do so does that mean it’s ok?
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Post by Mr.BrownFinger on Oct 24, 2023 22:54:22 GMT -5
At this point with all the evidence and Harbaughs consistent lies I feel like we are going to see a Lack of Institutional Control. This might be the end of Michigan football. Multiple scandals at one time is not a good look. Good thing we have USC and Oregon coming in.
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Post by sbclives on Oct 25, 2023 14:55:52 GMT -5
At this point with all the evidence and Harbaughs consistent lies I feel like we are going to see a Lack of Institutional Control. This might be the end of Michigan football. Multiple scandals at one time is not a good look. Good thing we have USC and Oregon coming in. I’m as a big of a Buckeyes fan there is but the end of Michigan football? Get real. The NCAA isn’t that hard on schools anymore cause they seen what bringing the ban hammer down on schools happens to them. I’d be willing to bet probation or vacating victories is all that comes of this
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Post by Rambo McClain on Oct 25, 2023 15:04:40 GMT -5
Ryan "Becoming more of a Man Everyday" Day WILL beat Michigan this year.
Harbaugh is going to get a LIFETIME ban. Michigan is going to get a 20 scholarship reduction Michigan is going to be banned from postseason play for 8 years Michigan is going to be vacating 3 seasons worth of wins Last time Michigan had a winning record will be 2019
1 - Jim Tressel knocked Michigan around 2 - Urban Meyer put Michigan on life support And low and behold, that lone win in 2019 by Ryan Day (with 100% Urban Meyer recruits) forced Harbaugh to CHEAT.
So now it goes 1 - Jim Tressel knocked Michigan around 2 - Urban Meyer put Michigan on life support 3 - Ryan Day ENDED Michigan football (Michigan football is done being a D-1 force just like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, SMU)
Ryan Day WILL beat Michigan this year. Ryan Day is going to put the final nail in the coffin of Michigan Football
Goodbye Cheatigan, you did worse than SMU. The NCAA is going to give you a double death penalty.
The Big Ten should oust Cheatigan from the Big Ten immediately. In 2030 you see Cheatigan playing in the GLIAC with Ashland and Ferris State.
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