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Post by 419bossman on Dec 18, 2023 16:49:34 GMT -5
The NWDAB just released the teams for the district. New for this year that for the Sectional Games the higher seeded team will host. This was typically the Ashland/Madison District and since the problems with these sites the last few years the NWDAB has decided that the site will be determined after Sectional play. From what I heard is Galion, Ontario, Mansfield Sr., and Lexington are the top choices.
Additions- Tiffin Columbian
Lost- Norwalk and Sandusky
Teams- Bellevue, Clear Fork, Columbian, Galion, Lexington, Mansfield Sr., Ontario, Perkins, Shelby, Vermilion, and Willard
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Dec 18, 2023 19:36:55 GMT -5
For those who didn't catch it in the MOAC/OCC part of the website, the district site is rumored to be taking place at whichever listed school does not qualify for districts, in order of priority: Mansfield, Ontario, Lex, and Galion.
Generally speaking, one would expect Ontario or Galion to be the host.
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Post by gtab on Dec 18, 2023 21:07:23 GMT -5
For those who didn't catch it in the MOAC/OCC part of the website, the district site is rumored to be taking place at whichever listed school does not qualify for districts, in order of priority: Mansfield, Ontario, Lex, and Galion. Generally speaking, one would expect Ontario or Galion to be the host. Perhaps we should ask galionfan13, who seems to know all "things" Galion ?
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Dec 18, 2023 22:39:26 GMT -5
For those who didn't catch it in the MOAC/OCC part of the website, the district site is rumored to be taking place at whichever listed school does not qualify for districts, in order of priority: Mansfield, Ontario, Lex, and Galion. Generally speaking, one would expect Ontario or Galion to be the host. Perhaps we should ask galionfan13, who seems to know all "things" Galion ? not only does he think Galion will win State, but NBA Title and next Olympic Gold Medal
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Post by sbclives on Dec 19, 2023 0:18:42 GMT -5
Does the G League stand for the Galion League?
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Post by dude on Dec 19, 2023 7:20:14 GMT -5
So whoever does not make the District tournament of those 4 will be the host? And I'm being told that the order would favor Ontario over Galion.(between those two)
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Post by jmorgret07 on Dec 19, 2023 9:28:58 GMT -5
Can we talk about how good this district is?
Bellevue, Columbian, Lexington, Mansfield Sr., Perkins, Shelby, and Willard are above average to really good teams it appears early in the season (Yes, I know Perkins hasn't won yet, but led in fourth quarter at Willard and at Sandusky).
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Post by 419bossman on Dec 19, 2023 9:59:32 GMT -5
Yes, a very good, tough and brutal district. We all know that Shelby and Lexington are heavy favorites but in any game anything can happen. There are seven teams that can legitimately win this district.
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Post by dude on Dec 19, 2023 11:03:20 GMT -5
Yes, a very good, tough and brutal district. We all know that Shelby and Lexington are heavy favorites but in any game anything can happen. There are seven teams that can legitimately win this district.Normal for this District.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Dec 19, 2023 11:54:33 GMT -5
So whoever does not make the District tournament of those 4 will be the host? And I'm being told that the order would favor Ontario over Galion.(between those two) Correct.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Dec 19, 2023 13:41:57 GMT -5
I remember a time when Bellevue, Big Lex, Malabar, and Willard was a brutal District. All were State caliber teams and it was a shame only 1 could go
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Post by marchmadness on Dec 19, 2023 13:43:18 GMT -5
Agreed, normal for this district, but maybe even heavier than normal.
There will be some very good teams without a sectional title this year.
Who knows how the flawed MAXPREPS rankings will come out, but I project it will be Lex and Shelby as for sures in the district and then the next 5 don't have much separation at this point. I'd say in the end, Willard, Bellevue, Perkins, TC, Mansfield would be my power order. I bet Willard wishes they were D3 this year!
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Post by 419bossman on Jan 1, 2024 16:57:47 GMT -5
As we begin the new year here are the records. Now these are strictly based on records, I didn't factor in head to head or who has beaten who. The draw will be on Sunday February 11th.
1. Lexington 10-0 2. Willard 8-0 3. Bellevue 7-1 4. Mansfield Sr. 7-2 5. Shelby 6-2 6. Tiffin 6-2 7. Galion 5-2 8. Perkins 3-3 9. Vermilion 3-3 10. Clear Fork 2-5 11. Ontario 2-6
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Post by marchmadness on Jan 2, 2024 12:21:11 GMT -5
We are going to find out how good Willard is real soon. Next 3 games: Thursday Home vs. Margaretta Saturday At Tiffin Tuesday Home vs. Sandusky
I think they can win 2 of 3.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Jan 2, 2024 12:52:17 GMT -5
We are going to find out how good Willard is real soon. Next 3 games: Thursday Home vs. Margaretta Saturday At Tiffin Tuesday Home vs. Sandusky I think they can win 2 of 3. If we're using word "can", then it's all 3
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 3, 2024 16:07:22 GMT -5
Better team in all 3 imo. Can be tough though to bring your best 3 games in a row so close.
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Post by dude on Jan 3, 2024 22:54:33 GMT -5
We are going to find out how good Willard is real soon. Next 3 games: Thursday Home vs. Margaretta Saturday At Tiffin Tuesday Home vs. Sandusky I think they can win 2 of 3. Win or lose, playing 3 good teams should be better for the Flashes then playing average D4 teams to 20 point wins.
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Post by moacpops on Jan 5, 2024 16:08:31 GMT -5
The district semifinal games and championship should be very competitive. There are six quality teams. From Maxpreps state rankings: #3 Lexington #6 Willard #10 Bellevue #13 Shelby #23 Mansfield Senior #27 Columbian
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Jan 6, 2024 15:12:06 GMT -5
This is how I would rank the teams in the district as of 1/6/24 early afternoon. 1. Lexington 11-0 2. Shelby 7-2 3. Mansfield Senior 8-2 4. Bellevue 6-3 5. Willard 8-1 6. Sandusky Perkins 7. Tiffin Columbian 8. Galion 5-3 9. Clear Fork 4-5 10. Vermillion 11. Ontario 2-7
You might be able to flip Bellevue and Wiiard. And Maybe Perkins and Columbian.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Jan 6, 2024 16:55:31 GMT -5
This is how I would rank the teams in the district as of 1/6/24 early afternoon. 1. Lexington 11-0 2. Shelby 7-2 3. Mansfield Senior 8-2 4. Bellevue 6-3 5. Willard 8-1 6. Sandusky Perkins 7. Tiffin Columbian 8. Galion 5-3 9. Clear Fork 4-5 10. Vermillion 11. Ontario 2-7 You might be able to flip Bellevue and Wiiard. And Maybe Perkins and Columbian. Bellevue is 8-2 after last night's 33-22 Football win at Don Paul Stadium, I meant Basketball win at The Purple Pit against Ross Little Giants
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Post by marchmadness on Jan 6, 2024 17:57:39 GMT -5
I'd power rank them now like this: Lex Shelby
Bellevue Willard Mansfield Tiffin
Perkins
Galion
Clear Fork Ontario Vermilion
Yes, the gaps are intentional.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Jan 7, 2024 23:19:05 GMT -5
I'd power rank them now like this: Lex Shelby Bellevue Willard Mansfield Tiffin Perkins Galion Clear Fork Ontario Vermilion Yes, the gaps are intentional. I agree for most part. Bellevue/Willard a toss, and I'll throw Mansfield above the 2
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Post by dude on Jan 8, 2024 6:23:42 GMT -5
I'd power rank them now like this: Lex Shelby Bellevue Willard Mansfield Tiffin Perkins Galion Clear Fork Ontario Vermilion Yes, the gaps are intentional. Lex - Shelby Willard - Mansfield Bellevue Tiffin Perkins - Galion - Clear Fork Ontario Vermilion
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Post by 419bossman on Jan 10, 2024 18:27:38 GMT -5
The first official Maxpreps RPI was released today. The RPI Formula is 40% Winning Percentage + 35% Opponents Winning Percentage + 25% Opponents, Opponents Winning Percentage.
1. Lexington 13-0 2. Willard 9-2 3. Bellevue 8-2 4. Shelby 8-2 5. Mansfield Sr. 8-2 6. Columbian 7-3 7. Galion 5-4 8. Clear Fork 5-5 9. Perkins 3-5 10. Vermilion 4-5 11. Ontario 2-8
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jan 10, 2024 20:20:50 GMT -5
For the sake of being technical:
RPI doesn't involve the specifics of if you beat X team. For MaxPreps, they don't even measure the size of the school.
In football, you only get the playoff points if you win. With RPI in basketball, you get the points for playing the team. If you win, it goes into the win % category.
If two teams have identical schedules and identical records (despite having a different combination of wins and losses), you could see them with the same RPI despite them having different team by team outcomes. In general, RPI aims in the right direction, but it has the downfalls as any system.
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Post by dude on Jan 11, 2024 12:14:40 GMT -5
1. Lexington 13-0 2. Willard 9-2 3. Bellevue 8-2 4. Shelby 8-2 5. Mansfield Sr. 8-2 6. Columbian 7-3 7. Galion 5-4 8. Clear Fork 5-5 9. Perkins 3-5 10. Vermilion 4-5 11. Ontario 2-8
MARTIN RPI 1. Lexington 13-0 2. Bellevue 9-2 3. Shelby 8-2 4. Willard 9-2 5. Mansfield Sr. 9-2 6. Columbian 8-3 7. Galion 5-4 8. Perkins 3-5 9. Clear Fork 5-5 10. Vermilion 4-5 11. Ontario 2-8
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Post by dude on Jan 11, 2024 12:20:00 GMT -5
For the sake of being technical: RPI doesn't involve the specifics of if you beat X team. For MaxPreps, they don't even measure the size of the school. In football, you only get the playoff points if you win. With RPI in basketball, you get the points for playing the team. If you win, it goes into the win % category. If two teams have identical schedules and identical records (despite having a different combination of wins and losses), you could see them with the same RPI despite them having different team by team outcomes. In general, RPI aims in the right direction, but it has the downfalls as any system. We can probably assume that every sports ranking system is not like football. So comparing any sport to football will have many differences. In theory, if every team in the state only played in state teams and each went .500. Would all the RPI's be the same? Asking for a friend.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jan 12, 2024 20:22:38 GMT -5
For the friend, teams would only have an identical RPI if they played identical schedules and wound up with identical win percentages. The main quirk is Team A could lose to 1-21 Vanlue and Team B could beat 21-1 St. Ed's during that stretch of identical schedules/win percentages, and they would be viewed the same.
The dramatic example I like to use for pointing out RPI flaws is Mansfield Senior football the last two years. They played Massillon. RPI gives you a boost for playing winning teams, and an extra boost if those winning teams played other winning teams. Mansfield being slaughtered by Massillon the last two years would hurt their rank because a loss does impact Mansfield's win percentage, which is the biggest component in RPI. Point differential doesn't matter. However, you get an RPI boost if you play a team like Massillon who plays teams who all have stellar win percentages...even if you lose. Lose by 1, lose by 40, doesn't matter. The OHSAA football playoff system do not give you playoff points for losses, but RPI ignores that.
I would say it is very difficult to engineer such an edge via RPI...but if we remain with the Mansfield football example, they would have the following based on playing Massillon: - A ding on Mansfield's overall win percentage, worth 40% of the RPI weight - A boost on their opponents' win percentage due to playing 10-0 Massillon, worth 35% of RPI weight - Another boost on the opponents of their opponents win percentage, worth 25% of RPI weight
Since Massillon plays mostly 8-2 type teams, Mansfield football would have an excellent RPI advantage by pure virtue of playing a Massillon team who who plays the best of the best.
My whole attitude towards RPI is based on obscurities, but that same obscurity led to the NCAA eliminating RPI as a measurement for March Madness selection. Let alone that MaxPreps RPI puts zero weight towards the size of the opponent school.
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Post by dude on Jan 12, 2024 23:12:06 GMT -5
For the friend, teams would only have an identical RPI if they played identical schedules and wound up with identical win percentages. The main quirk is Team A could lose to 1-21 Vanlue and Team B could beat 21-1 St. Ed's during that stretch of identical schedules/win percentages, and they would be viewed the same. My friends example was every team in the state went .500. So there would be no 1-21 or 21-1 teams.
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Post by dude on Jan 12, 2024 23:16:20 GMT -5
Since Massillon plays mostly 8-2 type teams, Mansfield football would have an excellent RPI advantage by pure virtue of playing a Massillon team who who plays the best of the best. So why is Richmond Hgts ranked so low. Their schedule is the "best of the best".
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