MOAC 2024

[richrod]

Jun 14, 2024 14:46:49 GMT -5 foamcity said:

Whats going on in Galion?

I haven't heard anything... what have you heard?

[utsherman]

Jun 18, 2024 11:40:07 GMT -5 dude said:

Jun 18, 2024 10:41:01 GMT -5 utsherman said:

Miller just got his offer from Hartline. Ran a 4.44 at tOSU camp today.

Official offer or is this your prediction?  I thought OSU was hosting a 7on7 today?

Official.

[dude]

Jun 18, 2024 12:18:17 GMT -5 utsherman said:

Jun 18, 2024 11:40:07 GMT -5 dude said:

Official offer or is this your prediction?  I thought OSU was hosting a 7on7 today?

Official.

That is great news for him.

[GHS 1999]

Jun 14, 2024 14:46:49 GMT -5 foamcity said:

Whats going on in Galion?

I’m not sure what you are referring to. Coach Dick is planning on being back and from what I’ve heard he is taking a new position at the school.

[GHS 1999]

www.richlandsource.com/2024/06/18/buckeyes-offer-football-scholarship-to-ontarios-miller/

The Richland Source story on the matter.

[shelbyrr11]

October 18th in Shelby will be a fun night.

[dude]

Jun 19, 2024 8:01:55 GMT -5 shelbyrr11 said:

October 18th in Shelby will be a fun night.

Does the Shelby QB have any interest in playing college sports? If he does, do any colleges have interest in him?

[buckeye33]

Jun 19, 2024 10:11:47 GMT -5 dude said:

Jun 19, 2024 8:01:55 GMT -5 shelbyrr11 said:

October 18th in Shelby will be a fun night.

Does the Shelby QB have any interest in playing college sports? If he does, do any colleges have interest in him?

He visited Marshall last fall
It’ll be interesting to see how he does without Ramsey and Swisher.

[dude]

Jun 19, 2024 10:32:50 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

Jun 19, 2024 10:11:47 GMT -5 dude said:

Does the Shelby QB have any interest in playing college sports? If he does, do any colleges have interest in him?

He visited Marshall last fall
It’ll be interesting to see how he does without Ramsey and Swisher.

So is that a YES to my 1st question and a NO to my 2nd question?

[4]

Correct.

[4]

Too small to play D1 as a QB or WR, not an elite athlete like Miller.

[buckeye33]

Jun 19, 2024 10:41:08 GMT -5 dude said:

Jun 19, 2024 10:32:50 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

He visited Marshall last fall
It’ll be interesting to see how he does without Ramsey and Swisher.

So is that a YES to my 1st question and a NO to my 2nd question?

I can’t answer the second question, never heard if he’s interested in playing college football, maybe basketball

[dude]

Jun 19, 2024 17:59:36 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

Jun 19, 2024 10:41:08 GMT -5 dude said:

So is that a YES to my 1st question and a NO to my 2nd question?

I can’t answer the second question, never heard if he’s interested in playing college football, maybe basketball

I'd have to wait and see what he can do on the basketball court this season before thinking he has both options. 

[dude]

Jun 19, 2024 16:49:39 GMT -5 4 said:

Too small to play D1 as a QB or WR, not an elite athlete like Miller.

Johnny Manzeil was barely 6 foot so I suppose short guys have a chance. I suppose I just thought anyone who is first team all Ohio has a chance to play somewhere.

[shelbyrr11]

Jun 19, 2024 10:32:50 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

Jun 19, 2024 10:11:47 GMT -5 dude said:

Does the Shelby QB have any interest in playing college sports? If he does, do any colleges have interest in him?

He visited Marshall last fall
It’ll be interesting to see how he does without Ramsey and Swisher.

I'm thinking Shelby does a decent job at reloading from last season.

From what I'm understanding, there could be some help on the O-line coming up this season. Eyster was a good target at WR last year, and there's the younger Bowman brother who will be a sophomore (the elder graduated in 2022, has the Shelby record for career receiving yards). Younger Bowman had a 55yd TD catch against Ontario. That's the optimistic viewpoint of things. Not sure how the running game is looking. 

[buckeye33]

Jun 19, 2024 23:30:53 GMT -5 shelbyrr11 said:

Jun 19, 2024 10:32:50 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

He visited Marshall last fall
It’ll be interesting to see how he does without Ramsey and Swisher.

I'm thinking Shelby does a decent job at reloading from last season.

From what I'm understanding, there could be some help on the O-line coming up this season. Eyster was a good target at WR last year, and there's the younger Bowman brother who will be a sophomore (the elder graduated in 2022, has the Shelby record for career receiving yards). Younger Bowman had a 55yd TD catch against Ontario. That's the optimistic viewpoint of things. Not sure how the running game is looking. 

Should be an interesting year for Shelby. I think the MOAC as a whole, will be down this year…Shelby, Ontario and Galion lost a ton of talent. The Whippets are probably considered the favorites, but they sure lose a lot. 7 offensive and six defensive starters. Replacing 3 linemen, replacing 80% of their receiving yards, 50% rushing yards and 60% of tackles. They’ll be a young team, with only seven seniors. Bowman should have a break out year, except some really good things out of him.

[dude]

Jun 20, 2024 13:53:04 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

Jun 19, 2024 23:30:53 GMT -5 shelbyrr11 said:

I'm thinking Shelby does a decent job at reloading from last season.

From what I'm understanding, there could be some help on the O-line coming up this season. Eyster was a good target at WR last year, and there's the younger Bowman brother who will be a sophomore (the elder graduated in 2022, has the Shelby record for career receiving yards). Younger Bowman had a 55yd TD catch against Ontario. That's the optimistic viewpoint of things. Not sure how the running game is looking. 

Should be an interesting year for Shelby. I think the MOAC as a whole, will be down this year…Shelby, Ontario and Galion lost a ton of talent. The Whippets are probably considered the favorites, but they sure lose a lot. 7 offensive and six defensive starters. Replacing 3 linemen, replacing 80% of their receiving yards, 50% rushing yards and 60% of tackles. They’ll be a young team, with only seven seniors. Bowman should have a break out year, except some really good things out of him.

I had been hearing that Ontario returns a lot of their better players.

[buckeye33]

Jun 20, 2024 14:10:14 GMT -5 dude said:

Jun 20, 2024 13:53:04 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

Should be an interesting year for Shelby. I think the MOAC as a whole, will be down this year…Shelby, Ontario and Galion lost a ton of talent. The Whippets are probably considered the favorites, but they sure lose a lot. 7 offensive and six defensive starters. Replacing 3 linemen, replacing 80% of their receiving yards, 50% rushing yards and 60% of tackles. They’ll be a young team, with only seven seniors. Bowman should have a break out year, except some really good things out of him.

I had been hearing that Ontario returns a lot of their better players.

well they bring back Miller, so they sure bring back their best player. They lost 3 or 4 starting offensive linemen, lost their starting running back/linebacker in Studer, I know at least to WRs gone. I think they lost 7 all conference players

[buckeye33]

Miller commits to Ohio State

[don]

this conference blows

[utsherman]

Jun 21, 2024 13:27:18 GMT -5 don said:

this conference blows

Killer take, bro. Lol.

[shelbyrr11]

I was talking to a friend who about this. The MOAC may stink, but there is a case that the Central Buckeye Conference (Bellefontaine, London, and Jonathan Alder typically lead the big school division over there) is even crummier. Said friend lives near a school in that league. The football shows promise, but the basketball is led by Jonathan Alder running a slow-down offense. Ick. I think we are doing fine in relation to that.

MOAC did rip off a 16-8 non-con performance last season. Highland beat 9-1 Liberty Benton in playoffs, Galion almost snuck past West Holmes in round 2. Shelby dropped about 700 yards of offense on Van Wert. Maybe we can hang onto a few surprises like that. Shelby might actually beat Bellevue for the first time since 2017 ya know (ha...).

[Big Lex Fan]

The MOAC is fine. Are there better league around yes. But from a competition standpoint it's pretty good from to bottom. Last year they were very good in football and basketball against non conference and tournament opponents. Shelby and River Valley in basketball and Shelby, Ontario, Highland and Galion in football. I would argue that the OCC is stronger but then again they are bigger schools.

[gtab]

Jun 21, 2024 13:27:18 GMT -5 don said:

this conference blows

A completely erroneous comment with absolutely zero context.

[buckeye33]

Jun 22, 2024 8:02:17 GMT -5 Big Lex Fan said:

The MOAC is fine. Are there better league around yes. But from a competition standpoint it's pretty good from to bottom. Last year they were very good in football and basketball against non conference and tournament opponents. Shelby and River Valley in basketball and Shelby, Ontario, Highland and Galion in football. I would argue that the OCC is stronger but then again they are bigger schools.

The league is top heavy in basketball, and will be even so this less so this year after Shelby loses 8 seniors, but since this is a football forum…I think the MOAC will be down this year, with no team winning more than one playoff game, except maybe Shelby. The league loses a ton of taken fro last year. The top two team from last year lose 18 and 20 seniors, I think 14 starters for both teams. Galion. Shelby loses 8 all league players, I think Ontario loses 7 all league guys, most started both sides of the ball.
Galion loses five first teamers and five all Ohioans. Highland loses Nauman. The league may be competitive amongst themselves this year, but I think takes a step back.

[buckeye33]

Jun 23, 2024 4:39:28 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

Jun 22, 2024 8:02:17 GMT -5 Big Lex Fan said:

The MOAC is fine. Are there better league around yes. But from a competition standpoint it's pretty good from to bottom. Last year they were very good in football and basketball against non conference and tournament opponents. Shelby and River Valley in basketball and Shelby, Ontario, Highland and Galion in football. I would argue that the OCC is stronger but then again they are bigger schools.

The league is top heavy in basketball, and with Shelby losing 8 seniors, they will be down this year. , but since this is a football forum…I think the MOAC will be down this year, with no team winning more than one playoff game, except maybe Shelby. The league loses a ton of talent from last year. The top two team from last year lose 18 and 20 seniors, I think 14 starters for both teams. Shelby loses 8 all league players, I think Ontario loses 7 all league guys, most started both sides of the ball.
Galion loses five first teamers and five all Ohioans. Highland loses Nauman. The league may be competitive amongst themselves this year, but I think takes a step back.

[dude]

Jun 23, 2024 4:39:28 GMT -5 buckeye33 said:

Jun 22, 2024 8:02:17 GMT -5 Big Lex Fan said:

The MOAC is fine. Are there better league around yes. But from a competition standpoint it's pretty good from to bottom. Last year they were very good in football and basketball against non conference and tournament opponents. Shelby and River Valley in basketball and Shelby, Ontario, Highland and Galion in football. I would argue that the OCC is stronger but then again they are bigger schools.

The league is top heavy in basketball, and will be even so this less so this year after Shelby loses 8 seniors, but since this is a football forum…I think the MOAC will be down this year, with no team winning more than one playoff game, except maybe Shelby. The league loses a ton of taken fro last year. The top two team from last year lose 18 and 20 seniors, I think 14 starters for both teams. Galion. Shelby loses 8 all league players, I think Ontario loses 7 all league guys, most started both sides of the ball.
Galion loses five first teamers and five all Ohioans. Highland loses Nauman. The league may be competitive amongst themselves this year, but I think takes a step back.

I see it slightly different. When the MOAC has multiple teams winning multiple playoff games it is a very good year and not the normal. When the MOAC has what you are predicting this year, it's not down in my view, it's normal. I think you are correct that this year could be normal with only a team winning playoff games but a second team could grab an upset. Remember with this new playoff system it can open the door for more playoff wins.

[moacpops]

Winning a playoff game happens more frequently than it did prior to the expanded playoffs. It’s much easier to win games than it was pre-pandemic.

[dude]

Jun 24, 2024 21:26:52 GMT -5 moacpops said:

Winning a playoff game happens more frequently than it did prior to the expanded playoffs. It’s much easier to win games than it was pre-pandemic.

Well of course when you have twice as many making the playoffs you will have twice as many chances at a win. 

[dude]

The MOAC in playoff games 3 years before pandemic and three seasons after. Did not include 2020 since it was chaos.

2017 - 3 wins 2 losses
2018 - 2-2
2019 - 2-3
2021 - 1-6
2022 - 1-5
2023 - 5-6
So since the pandemic, twice as many teams made the playoffs but the wins have stayed steady except for a peak season last year.