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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 1:23:36 GMT -5
THE TRUTH Mt. Vernon 420..Harding 379 Wooster 407......Buckeye Valley 308 Mansfield 387....River Valley 236 Ashland 349......Ontario 222 Madison 333......Galion 163 Lexington 279....North Union 160 W. Holmes 276...Pleasant 153 NO COMPARISON. From largest to smallest, every OCC school is 100-170 larger except for Mt.V and Harding, with Mt.V 41 larger Clear Fork 188. They went from BY FAR the smallest school in a league to a middle sized school in a league. A no brainer. You've admitted the number of those doing the talking is minuscule. The truth? When did you last speak to a Clear Fork Parent? OR a Clear Fork Coach? OR a Clear Fork player? My guess is you do not know what the truth is when it comes to what Clear Fork wanted. THE TRUTH, would be the huge differences in enrollments between the 2 leagues. The #1 priority for getting out of the OCC. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 1:28:12 GMT -5
You admit the very few doing the talking don't have a clue. Give it up, move on. If you think the old timers in the valley are clueless, then you are showing your ignorance to the topic at hand. And I will move because of that. You would be the ignorant one if you think "old timers" who don't know how to operate a computer aren't clueless compared the ones who do. You were the one who told us they know nothing about the internet. That makes them potentially less knowledgeable than elementary students who have a computer in their pockets, in the class room and multiple ones at home. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 1:37:02 GMT -5
Build it and they will come.  It's called recruiting by most. Only by those not knowledgeable. I'm waiting for specific cases AT Ontario from you as opposed to your innuendos and untruths. CRICKETS. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 1:39:44 GMT -5
Did you hear any complaints from people in Orrville? Someone has to be the furthest from other schools in a league. Clear Fork was the furthest South and West in the OCC, they are now the furthest to the East in the MOAC. They will now be a middle sized school in the MOAC instead of by far the smallest in the OCC, making traveling for the VAST majority easier to do. The OCC is not a good fit for DV schools. So, less than 1% of the people in the Clear Fork district? And your think this is worthy of a snide remark?? Over four years, I did not hear one complaint from anyone in Ontario about driving to Lake Erie for games. I don't expect to hear any complaints about driving to Marion County for games either. The administration made a great decision to choose the NOL over the OCC and the MOAC over the OCC. Move on, look for another DI-DII school for the OCC. OR maybe you can talk Lucas, Crestline or Loudonville into joining the OCC, since they now are the only 3 schools that play football in their current league. AND they will all have MUCH shorter drives to games due to playing schools in the 4 corners of the state to fill in their schedule. AND attendance would be MUCH greater in the OCC, compared to crowds from Waterloo, Lakota, Arlington, Grove City Catholic, Ridgedale, St. Joe Central Catholic, St. Wendy and SMCC. Yes You only associate with the whiners?? The minuscule minority? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 7:59:37 GMT -5
The truth? When did you last speak to a Clear Fork Parent? OR a Clear Fork Coach? OR a Clear Fork player? My guess is you do not know what the truth is when it comes to what Clear Fork wanted. THE TRUTH, would be the huge differences in enrollments between the 2 leagues. If you don't think priority #1 was to get out of the OCC, you would be clueless. You claimed to know the truth about the reason for the move. But you made a guess. I can answer yes to all my questions. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 8:04:19 GMT -5
If you think the old timers in the valley are clueless, then you are showing your ignorance to the topic at hand. And I will move because of that. You would be the ignorant one if you think "old timers" who don't know how to operate a computer aren't clueless compared the ones who do. You were the one who told us they know nothing about the internet. That makes them potentially less knowledgeable than elementary students who have a computer in their pockets, in the class room and multiple ones at home. I NEVER said they did not know how. Again you insult them over and over. I said they have little use for any web site when it comes to their loyal support of their sports. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 14:12:39 GMT -5
Did you hear any complaints from people in Orrville? Someone has to be the furthest from other schools in a league. Clear Fork was the furthest South and West in the OCC, they are now the furthest to the East in the MOAC. They will now be a middle sized school in the MOAC instead of by far the smallest in the OCC, making traveling for the VAST majority easier to do. The OCC is not a good fit for DV schools. So, less than 1% of the people in the Clear Fork district? And your think this is worthy of a snide remark?? Over four years, I did not hear one complaint from anyone in Ontario about driving to Lake Erie for games. I don't expect to hear any complaints about driving to Marion County for games either. The administration made a great decision to choose the NOL over the OCC and the MOAC over the OCC. Move on, look for another DI-DII school for the OCC. OR maybe you can talk Lucas, Crestline or Loudonville into joining the OCC, since they now are the only 3 schools that play football in their current league. AND they will all have MUCH shorter drives to games due to playing schools in the 4 corners of the state to fill in their schedule. AND attendance would be MUCH greater in the OCC, compared to crowds from Waterloo, Lakota, Arlington, Grove City Catholic, Ridgedale, St. Joe Central Catholic, St. Wendy and SMCC. Once again you are looking for an argument that is not here. I am simply telling you that some of the loyal athletic supporters are not happy with this move. This change was not driven by a mass from the community. It is felt to be the push by 1 coach and a few of his influential supporters and a temporary AD. Those are not my words. Once again you talk to less than a handful of people, a minuscule minority, then speak for the ENTIRE school district when you're an outsider . A big part of your admitted to playing an internet game. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 14:25:13 GMT -5
You would be the ignorant one if you think "old timers" who don't know how to operate a computer aren't clueless compared the ones who do. You were the one who told us they know nothing about the internet. That makes them potentially less knowledgeable than elementary students who have a computer in their pockets, in the class room and multiple ones at home. I NEVER said they did not know how. Again you insult them over and over. I said they have little use for any web site when it comes to their loyal support of their sports. Your EXACT words, "They have very little use for online sites." Which means they don't use computers. Log on and you are on the internet, which is 99.9% "online sites". OR maybe it's your lack of sound usage of the written word that's the issue again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 14:30:35 GMT -5
Once again you are looking for an argument that is not here. I am simply telling you that some of the loyal athletic supporters are not happy with this move. This change was not driven by a mass from the community. It is felt to be the push by 1 coach and a few of his influential supporters and a temporary AD. Those are not my words. Once again you talk to less than a handful of people, a minuscule minority, then speak for the ENTIRE school district when you're an outsider . A big part of your admitted to playing an internet game. Spoke to a small number who stated many where in agreement with them. You are looking for an argument and I am only posting what is being discussed. No need to get so worked up. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 14:32:20 GMT -5
THE TRUTH, would be the huge differences in enrollments between the 2 leagues. If you don't think priority #1 was to get out of the OCC, you would be clueless. You claimed to know the truth about the reason for the move. But you made a guess. I can answer yes to all my questions. The ONLY claim is the HUGE difference in class sizes between the 2 leagues. BLACK AND WHITE FACTS. You admit to talking to less than 1% of the people in the Clear Fork school District and try to tell us what the District is thinking. That is FAR FAR less than a "claim". That's a ridiculous assumption. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 14:35:55 GMT -5
I NEVER said they did not know how. Again you insult them over and over. I said they have little use for any web site when it comes to their loyal support of their sports. Your EXACT words, "They have very little use for online sites." Which means they don't use computers. Log on and you are on the internet, which is 99.9% "online sites". OR maybe it's your lack of sound usage of the written word that's the issue again. My exact words were "These loyal fans I am referring to have very little use for online sites. " This was in response to a comment made about looking up information about other schools on a site. Thanks again for more insults. Hope you feel better. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 14:40:37 GMT -5
Once again you talk to less than a handful of people, a minuscule minority, then speak for the ENTIRE school district when you're an outsider . A big part of your admitted to playing an internet game. Spoke to a small number who stated many where in agreement with them. You are looking for an argument and I am only posting what is being discussed. No need to get so worked up. You need not to lie about me. How do you know I'm "worked up"?? You do not. AGAIN you, an outsider, talk to a minuscule number of people then speak for thousands of people. You do this all the time, a VERY bad habit. A psycological need to be an all knowing seer |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 14:44:35 GMT -5
Your EXACT words, "They have very little use for online sites." Which means they don't use computers. Log on and you are on the internet, which is 99.9% "online sites". OR maybe it's your lack of sound usage of the written word that's the issue again. My exact words were "These loyal fans I am referring to have very little use for online sites. " This was in response to a comment made about looking up information about other schools on a site. Thanks again for more insults. Hope you feel better. "very little use for online sites" if that is an accurate description by YOU, then YOU are saying they don't use computers. YOU would be the one doing the insulting. Thanks for proving my point, over and over again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 14:48:18 GMT -5
You claimed to know the truth about the reason for the move. But you made a guess. I can answer yes to all my questions. The ONLY claim is the HUGE difference in class sizes between the 2 leagues. BLACK AND WHITE FACTS. You admit to talking to less than 1% of the people in the Clear Fork school District and try to tell us what the District is thinking. That is FAR FAR less than a "claim". That's a ridiculous assumption. I have talked with many in the valley. I posted some remarks from a few made recently. Am I looking for change, not at all. Do I see anything changing, not anytime soon. Do I think they had a better option, never crossed my mind. Did I post some thoughts of a few diehard fans during a conversation, yes and nothing more than that. Posting stats and assuming what the District is thinking without speaking with anyone is ridiculous claim. Let's see if a response can be made without any insults, put downs or demeaning remarks about anyone. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 14:58:11 GMT -5
The ONLY claim is the HUGE difference in class sizes between the 2 leagues. BLACK AND WHITE FACTS. You admit to talking to less than 1% of the people in the Clear Fork school District and try to tell us what the District is thinking. That is FAR FAR less than a "claim". That's a ridiculous assumption. I have talked with many in the valley. I posted some remarks from a few made recently. Am I looking for change, not at all. Do I see anything changing, not anytime soon. Do I think they had a better option, never crossed my mind. Did I post some thoughts of a few diehard fans during a conversation, yes and nothing more than that. Posting stats and assuming what the District is thinking without speaking with anyone is ridiculous claim.Let's see if a response can be made without any insults, put downs or demeaning remarks about anyone. You're doing the assuming what a District is thinking by speaking to a minuscule number of people. I made NO claims, I spoke for NO ONE. All I did was post the class sizes of the schools in 2 school districts and allow others to arrive at a conclusion. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 15:04:27 GMT -5
Build it and they will come. It's called recruiting by most. The first insult. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 15:13:07 GMT -5
Did you hear any complaints from people in Orrville? Someone has to be the furthest from other schools in a league. Clear Fork was the furthest South and West in the OCC, they are now the furthest to the East in the MOAC. They will now be a middle sized school in the MOAC instead of by far the smallest in the OCC, making traveling for the VAST majority easier to do. The OCC is not a good fit for DV schools. So, less than 1% of the people in the Clear Fork district? And your think this is worthy of a snide remark?? Over four years, I did not hear one complaint from anyone in Ontario about driving to Lake Erie for games. I don't expect to hear any complaints about driving to Marion County for games either. The administration made a great decision to choose the NOL over the OCC and the MOAC over the OCC. Move on, look for another DI-DII school for the OCC. OR maybe you can talk Lucas, Crestline or Loudonville into joining the OCC, since they now are the only 3 schools that play football in their current league. AND they will all have MUCH shorter drives to games due to playing schools in the 4 corners of the state to fill in their schedule. AND attendance would be MUCH greater in the OCC, compared to crowds from Waterloo, Lakota, Arlington, Grove City Catholic, Ridgedale, St. Joe Central Catholic, St. Wendy and SMCC. Once again you are looking for an argument that is not here. 2nd insult |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 15:16:35 GMT -5
You admit the very few doing the talking don't have a clue. Give it up, move on. If you think the old timers in the valley are clueless, then you are showing your ignorance to the topic at hand. And I will move because of that. Insult #3 |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 15:19:45 GMT -5
AFTER those 3 posts I started speaking as spoken to. Your thought of being civil is a good idea. We'll see how long you can do as you suggest. We will know when you've fallen off the wagon, because then I WILL have to start speaking as spoken to again.
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Post by babymaker on Nov 8, 2016 15:48:27 GMT -5
Looks like the league will be fun next year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 15:56:11 GMT -5
I have talked with many in the valley. I posted some remarks from a few made recently. Am I looking for change, not at all. Do I see anything changing, not anytime soon. Do I think they had a better option, never crossed my mind. Did I post some thoughts of a few diehard fans during a conversation, yes and nothing more than that. Posting stats and assuming what the District is thinking without speaking with anyone is ridiculous claim.Let's see if a response can be made without any insults, put downs or demeaning remarks about anyone. what a District is thinking by speaking to a minuscule number of people. I made NO claims, I spoke for NO ONE. All I did was post the class sizes of the schools in 2 school districts and allow others to arrive at a conclusion. I'm not assuming anything. I simply stated what a few loyal supporters are saying is being discussed in the valley. YOU took that and went off the deep end. Bottom line is you spoke to NO ONE. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 15:56:58 GMT -5
It's called recruiting by most. The first insult. I never insulted you or any of the loyal fans in your district. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 16:00:50 GMT -5
You only associate with the whiners?? The minuscule minority? So if you complain you are a whiner? OR are the minuscule minority? I have never seen it that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 16:02:29 GMT -5
Is there a difference between saying someone is showing ignorance and calling someone ignorant?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 16:17:19 GMT -5
You're doing the assuming what a District is thinking by speaking to a minuscule number of people. I made NO claims, I spoke for NO ONE. All I did was post the class sizes of the schools in 2 school districts and allow others to arrive at a conclusion. I'm not assuming anything. I simply stated what a few loyal supporters are saying is being discussed in the valley. YOU took that and went off the deep end.Bottom line is you spoke to NO ONE. Another insult. You're right, I never claimed to speak to anyone. I wouldn't mention it if I had. You're the one making unsubstantiated claims that you have. And the thoughts of a minuscule minority is a good sampling of the other 4000 people in the District. When in reality much worse than some political poles. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 16:18:33 GMT -5
Is there a difference between saying someone is showing ignorance and calling someone ignorant? Not as far as the one being insulted feels. I speak as spoken to. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 16:22:04 GMT -5
You only associate with the whiners?? The minuscule minority? So if you complain you are a whiner? OR are the minuscule minority? I have never seen it that way. They are synonyms. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 16:35:46 GMT -5
I never insulted you or any of the loyal fans in your district. At the very least you were insulting a football coach, WITH NO EXAMPLES OF ANY VIOLATIONS at Ontario given. |
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Post by galion on Nov 8, 2016 17:23:27 GMT -5
Don't worry they'll be coming shortly.
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Post by jafbdad on Nov 8, 2016 19:32:18 GMT -5
Good luck to all of the MOAC teams next year. It should be a really competitive league from top to bottom.
I hope the recent changes work out and the conference continues to evolve into something that lasts for a long time.
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