2017 Dynasty League

[Deleted]

Promote Scott Schebler, Cin OF
Add Tommy Joseph, PHI 1B
Season Ending DL: Maikel Franco, PHI 3B

[tigeralum01]

franco isnt hurt...........

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Jun 6, 2017 13:40:04 GMT -5 tigeralum01 said:

franco isnt hurt...........

He may not be hurt, but there's something wrong with him!

Rules say...

"A player may be placed on Active DL Keeper at any time, injured or not."

[lastros]

damn boy, you got me worried. I have Franco in my other league and had to check multiple sports sites to check if franco was hurt.

[tigeralum01]

i dont remember that rule. I think thats a crappy rule

[CEOSouth]

if we need to vote on it we can, but I think we discussed this last year in regards to players that were effectively done for our season, but their teams hadn't DL'd them for whatever reason.


We can vote if we need to.



Also, just so you're aware, once he goes on the Active DL Keeper, he is uneditable...cannot be traded, cannot be changed, he is stuck as one of your 15 Active Keepers, him and his .218 average.

[tigeralum01]

Jun 6, 2017 13:55:43 GMT -5 CEOSouth said:

if we need to vote on it we can, but I think we discussed this last year in regards to players that were effectively done for our season, but their teams hadn't DL'd them for whatever reason.

He doesnt fit that mold either besides he can't hit

[CEOSouth]

Jun 6, 2017 13:57:53 GMT -5 tigeralum01 said:

Jun 6, 2017 13:55:43 GMT -5 CEOSouth said:

if we need to vote on it we can, but I think we discussed this last year in regards to players that were effectively done for our season, but their teams hadn't DL'd them for whatever reason.

He doesnt fit that mold either besides he can't hit

Agree, but that's a tough line to draw in the sand.

[Deleted]

If we want to re-word:

"A player may be placed on Active DL Keeper at any time, injured or not."

To something like:

"A player may be placed on Active DL Keeper at any time, if he is injured and unable to return this season, regardless if he is officially on the DL or not"

I will be OK with what I did being reversed given:

- It's exactly back to how it was before I did it
- I get my weekly transaction back

[tigeralum01]

it could be I guess. but someone without an injury doesn't even get into the sand

[lastros]

I really dont care either way but the name is misleading. So just modify the name to Active DL Keeper/Just having a bad season and I want to bench his *** permanently

[sithbucknut77]

We should definitely close that loop hole. The spirit of the rule is fine, pertaining to end of season team's not placing players on the DL due to expanded rosters.

[CEOSouth]

I don't even know that I'd call it a loophole?

I mean, what competitive advantage is he getting in this situation. I would think he's actually losing an edge by not having a trade chip during trading season, as well as locking in a subpar player into a premium Active 15 Keeper spot. He gains a roster spot I suppose?

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Jun 6, 2017 15:02:51 GMT -5 CEOSouth said:

... a subpar player ...

Maikel is offended.

[CEOSouth]

hey, I can name 29 other 3B alone that are statistically better than him currently.....he's in Panda territory.

There are 250 better offensive players than him currently.

There are 547 better overall fantasy players than him currently.

[sithbucknut77]

Jun 6, 2017 15:02:51 GMT -5 CEOSouth said:

I don't even know that I'd call it a loophole?

I mean, what competitive advantage is he getting in this situation. I would think he's actually losing an edge by not having a trade chip during trading season, as well as locking in a subpar player into a premium Active 15 Keeper spot. He gains a roster spot I suppose?

I didn't think of it that way.  You could be correct in forcing yourself to keep someone next year wouldn't normally keep.  wth....with this group you automatically think we are gaining an advantage on all moves.  My old baseball coach use to say "if you're not cheating, you're not trying!"

[sithbucknut77]

He's so bad right now even if you dropped him, how many other owners will be clamoring to add him?

[CEOSouth]

If by 3pmPT this isn't resolved, I will revert TESL roster back to what it was until it is sorted out. Can't have him accumulating stats for Schebler if the move stands.

[CEOSouth]

Jun 6, 2017 15:34:23 GMT -5 sithbucknut77 said:

He's so bad right now even if you dropped him, how many other owners will be clamoring to add him?

He's Minors worthy IMO, so I'd make room for him. Certainly not for Active Roster atm

[tigeralum01]

Im fine letting it stand if it was the rule. I just didn't remember it

[sithbucknut77]

To be clear I'm ok with letting stand as is.

[CEOSouth]

Im obviously fine with how it is, and honestly, when I read the Eduardo news this morning, my first thought was, ehhhh, maybe I'll just Active DL Keeper him.

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Jun 6, 2017 15:35:49 GMT -5 CEOSouth said:

Jun 6, 2017 15:34:23 GMT -5 sithbucknut77 said:

He's so bad right now even if you dropped him, how many other owners will be clamoring to add him?

He's Minors worthy IMO, so I'd make room for him. Certainly not for Active Roster atm

Yeah I blew my minors demotion on Gizzman. I don't think I can get what I think Franco is worth from you sharks, and I willing to gamble a keeper spot that he'll turn it around.

[CEOSouth]

Move stays as is. With the limited time, I 3 man voted it.


If we want to change how it's written, we can vote on it during yearly votes. For now Active DL Keep all you want

[DrTorch]

no real prob with the move because in all honesty the mandatory keeper for next year is a worthy penalty, injured or not

i do think that a player should be injured at least tho, i mean Reds had to ride out Harper's injury all last year because Harper was playing, maybe some clarification moving forward would help

[CEOSouth]

Sorry, I didn't message you for your three man vote, but I already had 2 votes for keep.


I think the uneditable/mandatory keeper is penalty enough as well. I don't think people are gaining too much of an advantage, injured or not.

I just worry about stipulating 'being injured' because I think, given the way differing teams handle the DL, it's going to be tough to draw a line between.



Off the top of my head for example. Last year near the end of the year Stanton was injured, but wasn't playing, only pinch hitting every few days. Marlins didn't DL him because they wanted to keep that pinch hitting option avail. There are other situations similar to that where it makes it murky and becomes a case by case analysis. If we keep it, 'injured or not', it solves that issue.

For the most part, if you are using your Active DL Keeper, you're already taking a hit, as theoretically you are losing one of the top 15 players on your team.

[DrTorch]

i'm kool with that

[Deleted]

SITH - he'll have to clear waivers before you can do that

[sithbucknut77]

^^Negative - check out the original rules posted on google drive:


(ii.)Waivers:
Players will be marked as 'On Waivers' after the draft or after being dropped from a team's roster. A player placed on waivers will remain on waivers for a period of 2 days, during which all teams will have the opportunity to make waiver claims on that player. Then, the player will be awarded to the team with the highest waiver priority that made a claim, and the team will move to the end of the waiver order.
Minors Players that are dropped ARE NOT subject to waivers. It is first come, first serve, noted by the time stamp on your post(on ESPN or NOSF) requesting to pick the player.***(1)

[Deleted]

That would be dropped off a minors roster, not an active roste, I believe.

Otherwise the whole idea of a minor demotion is irrelevant as I could just wait until nobody is on and quickly drop an active and put him on my minors.