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Post by gorockets on Jul 21, 2017 8:27:48 GMT -5
Has it been suggested to admit Fremont Ross into the conference for every sport except football? It seems the sticking point with Ross is no one wants to play them in football but most of the other medium to large SBC schools play them in other sports.
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Post by Keith on Jul 21, 2017 10:22:02 GMT -5
Has it been suggested to admit Fremont Ross into the conference for every sport except football? It seems the sticking point with Ross is no one wants to play them in football but most of the other medium to large SBC schools play them in other sports. The Fremont school board would NEVER accept that. Nor should they be expected to. I know a month or so back it was mentioned on this site that Fremont in fact, did apply to the SBC for membership and was turned down. A year or so ago, a few folks on this board asked if Fremont could "swallow its pride" and apply to the SBC. So we "swallowed our pride", but apparently the SBC is still afraid of us.
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Post by antoniograpeseed on Jul 21, 2017 10:45:03 GMT -5
Afraid? You're almost 300 kids bigger than any school in the SBC lol
Keep getting your a** beat by schools your size in the TRAC...in every sport.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 11:25:05 GMT -5
Afraid? You're almost 300 kids bigger than any school in the SBC lol Keep getting your a** beat by schools your size in the TRAC...in every sport. 300 kids translates into about 75 per grade and less than 40 boys and 40 girls per grade. That's actually not much bigger. Fremont in the SBC really makes good sense in many ways. Some people try to use enrollment as the max factor for leagues and it just doesn't matter like it used to. It does look as if the SBC, or at least some, are in fact afraid of having Ross in a league with them.
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Post by antoniograpeseed on Jul 21, 2017 11:39:54 GMT -5
No ones afraid of Ross they suck at everything. Deciding factor is no one likes Ross
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 11:49:36 GMT -5
No ones afraid of Ross they suck at everything. Deciding factor is no one likes Ross This is not true as many SBC teams play Ross in sports. It may be more accurate to say a few do not like Ross because they are afraid to play them.
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Post by mcm1019 on Jul 21, 2017 12:20:17 GMT -5
There were some SBC schools that were willing to admit Ross, but your neighbors to the east wanted NOTHING to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 12:47:38 GMT -5
Sandusky has no problem with Ross except the girlie purple colors.
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Post by jafo on Jul 21, 2017 12:52:54 GMT -5
Sandusky has no problem with Ross except the girlie purple colors. Okay, THAT'S funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 20:46:18 GMT -5
Sandusky has no problem with Ross except the girlie purple colors. If memory serves, that same color ended your playoff run last season.
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Post by 2112 on Jul 22, 2017 8:08:39 GMT -5
Sandusky has no problem with Ross except the girlie purple colors. If memory serves, that same color ended your playoff run last season. Lolol
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Post by ptangzoot on Jul 24, 2017 14:49:31 GMT -5
Shelby to MOAC? Yes please...
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Post by Funfan on Jul 24, 2017 15:28:50 GMT -5
If they want out, don't want to keep them here, there is the door........ totally understand about why and where they are going. I just glad we don't have to go down there more than just this one year.....
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jul 24, 2017 18:17:11 GMT -5
Shelby to MOAC? Yes please... From the Shelby City School District website is the following from the agenda for tonight's school board meeting: New Business 9.6 (Exhibit 13) The Shelby City School District accepts an invitation and passes a resolution to join the Mid Ohio Athletic Conference (MOAC) at the earliest, reasonable date effective upon the withdraw from the Sandusky Bay Conference (SBC) and with the alignment of athletic schedules within the MOAC.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 24, 2017 20:40:03 GMT -5
It's in the Shelby Globe tonight. Timeline is next year or the year after depending on what they can work out.
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Post by A no.1 on Jul 25, 2017 21:00:32 GMT -5
If they want out, don't want to keep them here, there is the door........ totally understand about why and where they are going. I just glad we don't have to go down there more than just this one year..... The feeling is mutual I'm sure. Size wise Shelby is a good fit but geographically it's a horrible fit for the SBC. Instead of every road conference game in the SBC being a long a road trip, only one will be really long in the MOAC.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jul 25, 2017 22:51:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 7:47:34 GMT -5
Being a month away from the 2017 season and considering both leagues have other teams moving I would hope the change could happen for the 2018 season.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jul 26, 2017 13:58:00 GMT -5
Being a month away from the 2017 season and considering both leagues have other teams moving I would hope the change could happen for the 2018 season. Quite a few conferences involved though....a lot of dominos would have to fall just right for all these moves to work for the 2018 football season. Will the Mid-State league allow London to leave in time for the 2018 season? London is the other team joining the Central Buckeye Conference with North Union, and those 2 need to join the CBC together, and Shelby's spot in the MOAC doesn't open up until North Union is able to join the CBC. Meanwhile, the SBC is (according to posts on here) working to add Hopewell-Loudon, which would balance out Shelby's departure and keep the league at an even number of schools. So how soon could HL be able to leave the Blanchard Valley Conference...and would the SBC request that Shelby keep their football in the SBC until the year HL is able to come in or let them go whenever? Will the BVC or MSL be looking to add schools to replace Hopewell and London, and when will those schools be able to leave their conferences? ...and so on
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 14:06:46 GMT -5
Very true but the idea of an AD(or 5-6 more) not being able to workout a 10 game schedule in the next 13 months seems nuts to me. I see the SBC, because of their unusual amount of teams in the divisions may be in a constant state of flux and the ADs know this and accept it. That could help Shelby in leaving in the next 13 months.
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Post by gridiron58 on Jul 26, 2017 15:40:16 GMT -5
The SBC should have left these idiots high and dry to begin with. Gave them a lifeline and then they vote to leave before they ever play one game. OHSAA needs to put rules in place to stop the constant league changes. When will these schools realize that the grass is usually not greener on the other side.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 17:42:32 GMT -5
Constant league changes? Shelby was in the NOL for 73 years. Why keep a team in a league that doesn't want to be there?
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Post by Funfan on Jul 26, 2017 17:58:03 GMT -5
It is kind of funny how everyone gave Poop to Vermilion when they back out of the NOL, but it is okay for Shelby to the same thing as what Vermilion did. I totally understand, wish them the best.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jul 26, 2017 18:42:54 GMT -5
It is kind of funny how everyone gave Poop to Vermilion when they back out of the NOL, but it is okay for Shelby to the same thing as what Vermilion did. I totally understand, wish them the best. I think some of that is due to Vermilion never playing a game in the NOL, whereas Shelby will at least give it a year (although they may have left without playing an SBC game if North Union had made their decision sooner). Additionally, Vermilion pulled out of the NOL to remain independent. Whether or not they could smell all the changes coming in a few short years is unknown. At least Shelby is going to a league that is by most accounts sensible given the alternatives.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jul 26, 2017 18:48:45 GMT -5
Constant league changes? Shelby was in the NOL for 73 years. Why keep a team in a league that doesn't want to be there? Dude, I think the "constant league changes" is more in reference to the wider athletic landscape, and not just Shelby. Overall, I am partially convinced that this is not part of a greater trend so much as we are caught right in the middle of it. Northwest Ohio has been traditionally stable. Go no further than the NOL and the NWOAL for that. Any amounts of changes will seem drastic, let alone the past 6 years. However, look up Ohio high school athletic conferences on Wikipedia and see all the leagues rising and falling every five or so years. I can look into it sometime when I have more time to make a cohesive argument.
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Post by gridiron58 on Jul 26, 2017 20:57:09 GMT -5
Constant league changes? Shelby was in the NOL for 73 years. Why keep a team in a league that doesn't want to be there? Dude, I think the "constant league changes" is more in reference to the wider athletic landscape, and not just Shelby. Overall, I am partially convinced that this is not part of a greater trend so much as we are caught right in the middle of it. Northwest Ohio has been traditionally stable. Go no further than the NOL and the NWOAL for that. Any amounts of changes will seem drastic, let alone the past 6 years. However, look up Ohio high school athletic conferences on Wikipedia and see all the leagues rising and falling every five or so years. I can look into it sometime when I have more time to make a cohesive argument. That's correct... the "constant league changes" comment was in reference to all the leagues/teams, not just Shelby. It's so frustrating when a few schools looking for greener pastures can completely decimate a whole region. For example... Carey, Mohawk, and Seneca East bailed on the extremely competitive MAL to join the N10 and get dominated by Wynford.... MAL folds.... Calvert agrees to join the SRL and then leaves for the TAAC before ever playing a game, leaving the other schools scrambling. Two years later Calvert leaves the TAAC for the SBC (as if they didn't know the TAAC was a bad idea to begin with). There has got to be a better way than this vicious cycle of one league stealing teams from another, forcing that league stealing from another and so on.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 26, 2017 21:12:19 GMT -5
It is kind of funny how everyone gave Poop to Vermilion when they back out of the NOL, but it is okay for Shelby to the same thing as what Vermilion did. I totally understand, wish them the best. Vermilion backed out a couple months after they said they were in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 21:19:46 GMT -5
I can agree that for the most part things have been mostly stable. Change does happen and it is normal so fighting it would be insane. My ultimate thought with leagues, when it comes right down to it, is that distance and travel are the factor. Everything else is fluff. Those that factor in enrollment and competition are only making excuses. Now granted, if the difference in enrollment for boys is 300+ then okay.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 26, 2017 21:32:56 GMT -5
Dude, I think the "constant league changes" is more in reference to the wider athletic landscape, and not just Shelby. Overall, I am partially convinced that this is not part of a greater trend so much as we are caught right in the middle of it. Northwest Ohio has been traditionally stable. Go no further than the NOL and the NWOAL for that. Any amounts of changes will seem drastic, let alone the past 6 years. However, look up Ohio high school athletic conferences on Wikipedia and see all the leagues rising and falling every five or so years. I can look into it sometime when I have more time to make a cohesive argument. That's correct... the "constant league changes" comment was in reference to all the leagues/teams, not just Shelby. It's so frustrating when a few schools looking for greener pastures can completely decimate a whole region. For example... Carey, Mohawk, and Seneca East bailed on the extremely competitive MAL to join the N10 and get dominated by Wynford.... MAL folds.... Calvert agrees to join the SRL and then leaves for the TAAC before ever playing a game, leaving the other schools scrambling. Two years later Calvert leaves the TAAC for the SBC (as if they didn't know the TAAC was a bad idea to begin with). There has got to be a better way than this vicious cycle of one league stealing teams from another, forcing that league stealing from another and so on. To compound what the N10 did to the MAL. It was worse what they did to the NCC. After Wynford, CC, BC, Bucyrus, Crestline and Riverdale voted in favor of admitting Upper and Galion to the NCC, before those 2 new schools played their first game in the NCC the 6 aforementioned schools changed their minds and left Upper, Galion, Ontario and Lucas high and dry in favor of the schools they pulled away from the MAL.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 26, 2017 21:43:54 GMT -5
Would it be irony if a school like Seneca East sniffed around to rejoin some old MAL pals in the River Division? Could get interesting...
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