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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 25, 2017 18:31:11 GMT -5
Early in the 2nd Ontario 14, Lex 0. Soph. QB Cam Todd with 2 TD passes, 50 yards passing and 50 yards rushing. Lex with two 3 and outs after big gain on first play of game.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 25, 2017 19:02:57 GMT -5
Halftime - Ontario 14, Lex 0. Lex got the ball on their 11 yard line after a blocked punt with around 2 minutes left in the half and failed to score.
33 yards and 1 first down in the first half for Lex.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 25, 2017 20:06:17 GMT -5
Ontario 21, Lex 12 after three.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 25, 2017 20:55:14 GMT -5
Ontario over Lex 21-20. First week was a good week to play inexperienced Lex, they will get better as the year goes along. Lex played much better in the 2nd half, but several mistakes cost them the game. Ontario's only score in the 2nd half was an 85 KO return by speedster Ethan Pensante. Redeeming himself for dropping a perfectly thrown pass for a TD.
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Post by ohs2017 on Aug 26, 2017 11:50:03 GMT -5
Ontario has talent in Todd and Ethan Pensante, if he isn't afraid to get hit. On the offensive line could be rough when they actually play talented teams. Going to MOAC was a safe bet for Hawkins to get wins, which he has usually had an easy conference or a lot of talent. Ontario graduated two offensive lineman both recognized from the NOL. At RT they have a kid new to offensive line and are really undersized, I still see Clearfork running the conference and putting it on Ontario when they play! Ontario should have a good season as I said though playing schools that are a lot smaller and a lot less talented then last years Sandusky, Shelby, and Norwalk. Any idea on Highland, I'm guessing Ontario should handle it easily we handled them in basketball fairly easy last two years i played, and a much smaller school than growing Ontario!
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Post by galion on Aug 26, 2017 11:55:06 GMT -5
Actually Highland is about Ontario's size now. The big question here is how good is Lex? Because if you really think that the MOAC is an "easy" conference full of "smaller" schools than Ontario you need to do some research.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 26, 2017 12:48:44 GMT -5
Ontario has talent in Todd and Ethan Pensante, if he isn't afraid to get hit. On the offensive line could be rough when they actually play talented teams. Going to MOAC was a safe bet for Hawkins to get wins, which he has usually had an easy conference or a lot of talent. Ontario graduated two offensive lineman both recognized from the NOL. At RT they have a kid new to offensive line and are really undersized, I still see Clearfork running the conference and putting it on Ontario when they play! Ontario should have a good season as I said though playing schools that are a lot smaller and a lot less talented then last years Sandusky, Shelby, and Norwalk. Any idea on Highland, I'm guessing Ontario should handle it easily we handled them in basketball fairly easy last two years i played, and a much smaller school than growing Ontario! Going to the MOAC had NOTHING to do with Hawkins. With Ontario, Clear Fork and Shelby joining and Fairbanks, NU and JA leaving, the MOAC is overall a stronger conference. Ontario's O-line and D-line are smallish. They have bigger linemen, but they play like their feet are in concrete. The best the smallish O-line can do against bigger D-lines is to create cracks for their backs on quick hitters or their Soph QB to make smart decisions on read option plays. Most of their passing will come on roll outs and and short passes, with an occasional shot down field especially to state meet sprinter Pensante. It should be said that Ontario won't play another team that has a defensive player any where close to 6-5 225 Cade Stover's abilities. From his free safety position he must have had solo or assist tackles on 75% of Ontario's running plays, all over the field. Ontario's smallish D-line had Lexington's much bigger O-line befuddled in the first half with their stunts and blitzes. Which is what they'll have to do to be successful against bigger O-lines. Lexington coaches made adjustments at half time and broke several long runs, which will happen when a front 7 is gambling on defense. Lexington gained A LOT of confidence in the 2nd half, dominating the stats. After having only 33 yards in the 1st half they ended the game with over 300. Ontario doing just enough to win. IMO Hawkins played conservatively on offense in the 2nd half, after seeing his D hold Lex to 33 yards and 1 first down in the 1st half. It almost cost him the game, Ontario was lucky to win. Lex is inexperienced, but talented, with 2 Power Five Conference players playing both ways and their 215# middle backer could play at a Mid-Major. The more reps first time ever QB Cade Stover gets the better their offense will get. In the Ontario game you could see a big difference just from the 1st half to the 2nd half. IMO by mid-season, all MOAC schools would have a problem beating Lexington. Last year Highland tied for 1st place in the in the MOAC Blue Division. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 13:08:09 GMT -5
Ontario has talent in Todd and Ethan Pensante, if he isn't afraid to get hit. On the offensive line could be rough when they actually play talented teams. Going to MOAC was a safe bet for Hawkins to get wins, which he has usually had an easy conference or a lot of talent. Ontario graduated two offensive lineman both recognized from the NOL. At RT they have a kid new to offensive line and are really undersized, I still see Clearfork running the conference and putting it on Ontario when they play! Ontario should have a good season as I said though playing schools that are a lot smaller and a lot less talented then last years Sandusky, Shelby, and Norwalk. Any idea on Highland, I'm guessing Ontario should handle it easily we handled them in basketball fairly easy last two years i played, and a much smaller school than growing Ontario! Some good points made newbie. Hawkins did have a part in the MOAC decision as he was already hired and consulted about the league when Ontario made their decision. Hawkins may find out with the addition of Clear Fork and playing Marion Harding or Pleasant will not be the same as when he had his talented teams at Galion. All three of those MOAC opponents are better since he last played them. And when Shelby joins, it could be another consistent conference loss. So much can change from season to season so it will be fun to watch it play out. |
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Aug 26, 2017 13:18:43 GMT -5
What was Lexington's sequence of PAT and/or 2 point attempts to get to 12 points?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 26, 2017 13:29:27 GMT -5
Ontario has talent in Todd and Ethan Pensante, if he isn't afraid to get hit. On the offensive line could be rough when they actually play talented teams. Going to MOAC was a safe bet for Hawkins to get wins, which he has usually had an easy conference or a lot of talent. Ontario graduated two offensive lineman both recognized from the NOL. At RT they have a kid new to offensive line and are really undersized, I still see Clearfork running the conference and putting it on Ontario when they play! Ontario should have a good season as I said though playing schools that are a lot smaller and a lot less talented then last years Sandusky, Shelby, and Norwalk. Any idea on Highland, I'm guessing Ontario should handle it easily we handled them in basketball fairly easy last two years i played, and a much smaller school than growing Ontario! Some good points made newbie. Hawkins did have a part in the MOAC decision as he was already hired and consulted about the league when Ontario made their decision. Hawkins may find out with the addition of Clear Fork and playing Marion Harding or Pleasant will not be the same as when he had his talented teams at Galion. All three of those MOAC opponents are better since he last played them. And when Shelby joins, it could be another consistent conference loss. So much can change from season to season so it will be fun to watch it play out. Another falsehood put out by scooty dude. If you want to believe Ontario was really invited to be a member of The New SBC, then the division they would play in would have 1 hour+ trips to all but one of the schools. AND they would have been the largest school in the Division. The average drive time for the MOAC is half that and will be less when Shelby comes in and NU leaves. AND Ontario is only an average sized school in the MOAC. If the SBC didn't invite Ontario to join, then Ontario had no other choice, but to join the MOAC. I don't care who the head football coach would have been, even if he had a say, Ontario would be in the MOAC. A no brainer. BTW, Hawkins will find it difficult for Ontario to compete in any league around here until they get more than 14 kids out for football in the 7th and 8th grades. Which is ridiculous when they have 80+ boys in a class. LOL at scooty dude. Obviously being untruthful about not reading my posts. "newbie" said nothing about Hawkins not being in the decision process of joining the MOAC. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 26, 2017 13:41:13 GMT -5
Ontario was up 14-0 when Lex scored their their first TD, they missed a one point conversion. Ontario was up 21-6 when they scored their 2nd TD, they missed a 2 point conversion. At that point making it a 2 possession game with the score 21-12 After their 3rd TD they made a 2 point conversion. What was interesting is that Ontario's kicker easily made all 3 PATs and had made all PATs and field goals attempted in scrimmages. And Hawkins chose to go for it on 4th down, inside or at the 10 yard line 3 times and none were 4th and 1 or 2. Scoring a TD once, but coming up short twice. Who knows what happens, but making 3 chip shot field goals is 9 points VS the 7. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 20:32:30 GMT -5
What was Lexington's sequence of PAT and/or 2 point attempts to get to 12 points? They scored 3 TDs, missed a kick, went for 2 and failed, went for 2 and scored. |
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Post by ohs2017 on Aug 31, 2017 22:54:26 GMT -5
Going to the MOAC had NOTHING to do with Hawkins. With Ontario, Clear Fork and Shelby joining and Fairbanks, NU and JA leaving, the MOAC is overall a stronger conference. Ontario's O-line and D-line are smallish. They have bigger linemen, but they play like their feet are in concrete. The best the smallish O-line can do against bigger D-lines is to create cracks for their backs on quick hitters or their Soph QB to make smart decisions on read option plays. Most of their passing will come on roll outs and and short passes, with an occasional shot down field especially to state meet sprinter Pensante. It should be said that Ontario won't play another team that has a defensive player any where close to 6-5 225 Cade Stover's abilities. From his free safety position he must have had solo or assist tackles on 75% of Ontario's running plays, all over the field. Ontario's smallish D-line had Lexington's much bigger O-line befuddled in the first half with their stunts and blitzes. Which is what they'll have to do to be successful against bigger O-lines. Lexington coaches made adjustments at half time and broke several long runs, which will happen when a front 7 is gambling on defense. Lexington gained A LOT of confidence in the 2nd half, dominating the stats. After having only 33 yards in the 1st half they ended the game with over 300. Ontario doing just enough to win. IMO Hawkins played conservatively on offense in the 2nd half, after seeing his D hold Lex to 33 yards and 1 first down in the 1st half. It almost cost him the game, Ontario was lucky to win. Lex is inexperienced, but talented, with 2 Power Five Conference players playing both ways and their 215# middle backer could play at a Mid-Major. The more reps first time ever QB Cade Stover gets the better their offense will get. In the Ontario game you could see a big difference just from the 1st half to the 2nd half. IMO by mid-season, all MOAC schools would have a problem beating Lexington. Last year Highland tied for 1st place in the in the MOAC Blue Division. Going to the MOAC 'might not have had anything to do with Hawkins, but him coming to Ontario knowing they were going to be joining the MOAC did. Plus his now brother-in-law is the high school principal. |
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Post by ohs2017 on Aug 31, 2017 22:55:30 GMT -5
Not sure if I quoted that correctly new to this site
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 1, 2017 19:35:56 GMT -5
He was already in the MOAC at Galion. He came to Ontario because they had a teaching job for him. Galion promised him a job over and over, but never came through. Teaching jobs pay more at Ontario than at Galion, thus that makes the coaching salary more.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 9:51:17 GMT -5
As I said earlier he was talked to about it. Hawkins may not have made the decision but he did give input. Talking about the move for Ontario, we could start taking bets on how long it will be before Ontario is in 4th league since 2012. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 2, 2017 12:37:30 GMT -5
We could start taking bets when the OCC will implode, with Mt Vernon and West Holmes looking.
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Post by ohs2017 on Sept 2, 2017 15:00:00 GMT -5
Hawkins was already in the MOAC at Galion. He came to Ontario because they had a teaching job for him. Galion promised him a job over and over, but never came through. Teaching jobs pay more at Ontario than at Galion, thus that makes the coaching salary more. |
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Post by ohs2017 on Sept 2, 2017 15:03:14 GMT -5
Hawkins was already in the MOAC at Galion. He came to Ontario because they had a teaching job for him. Galion promised him a job over and over, but never came through. Teaching jobs pay more at Ontario than at Galion, thus that makes the coaching salary more. I can't quote this on my phone so I'm typing at the bottom. Of Willard Flilmores post. @willardfilmore, yeah it's a joke Hawkins is making almost 80K with his coaching salary, and his position does not even involve teaching, but he's a counselor when they already have 2 of those? Haha.... what a waste! He's not a good coach and he was yelling at his QB last night when he was the one taking forever to call plays! And his play calling sucks! |
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Post by gt1975 on Sept 2, 2017 16:45:32 GMT -5
He took a long time getting plays called in when he was at Galion too
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 3, 2017 12:51:25 GMT -5
I can't quote this on my phone so I'm typing at the bottom. Of Willard Flilmores post. @willardfilmore, yeah it's a joke Hawkins is making almost 80K with his coaching salary, and his position does not even involve teaching, but he's a counselor when they already have 2 of those? Haha.... what a waste! He's not a good coach and he was yelling at his QB last night when he was the one taking forever to call plays! And his play calling sucks! Are you a teenager?? IMO high school teachers/counselors/coaches are underpaid not overpaid. Ontario's student population is growing more than any school in the area. They have over 2100 students. That's 3 counselors for every 700 students and you think 3 is too many??? With all the issues confronting today's kids along with absent parenting, 3 isn't enough. I've seen many dozens of coaches around here. He's not a "bad" coach. Bad coaches rarely have winning records regardless of the athletes they have. When I played we got yelled at all the time and had a streak of 24-1. The coaches told us if we aren't yelling at you it's because we've given up on you. The best players got yelled at the most. They were expected to play up to their abilities at all times, play smart, play mistake free, play hard. You're teenager judgmental attitude is a "joke", a "waste" and IS what "sucks". |
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Post by 7up on Sept 3, 2017 13:28:10 GMT -5
We could start taking bets when the OCC will implode, with Mt Vernon and West Holmes looking. I'd love to see one or both join MOAC |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 3, 2017 13:56:11 GMT -5
No you don't. Mt Vernon is 117 boys larger than Harding and West Holmes is a 90 minute drive from Marion. Adding one or both would drive BV, RV, Galion and Pleasant out of the MOAC.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 22:11:44 GMT -5
O2, take the bet. Mt Vernon is not looking at anything and West Holmes wants the OCC to add teams.
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Post by galion on Sept 4, 2017 4:06:58 GMT -5
I can't quote this on my phone so I'm typing at the bottom. Of Willard Flilmores post. @willardfilmore, yeah it's a joke Hawkins is making almost 80K with his coaching salary, and his position does not even involve teaching, but he's a counselor when they already have 2 of those? Haha.... what a waste! He's not a good coach and he was yelling at his QB last night when he was the one taking forever to call plays! And his play calling sucks! Are you a teenager?? IMO high school teachers/counselors/coaches are underpaid not overpaid. Ontario's student population is growing more than any school in the area. They have over 2100 students. That's 3 counselors for every 700 students and you think 3 is too many??? With all the issues confronting today's kids along with absent parenting, 3 isn't enough. I've seen many dozens of coaches around here. Hawkins is not a bad coach. Bad coaches rarely have winning records regardless of the athletes they have. When I played we got yelled at all the time and had a streak of 24-1. The coaches told us if we aren't yelling at you it's because we've given up on you. The best players got yelled at the most. They were expected to play up to their abilities at all times, play smart, play mistake free. You're teenager judgmental attitude is a "joke", a "waste" and IS what "sucks". Willard, would you really want that man counseling your kid? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 8:30:55 GMT -5
That would be a very good question for the school board.
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Post by galion on Sept 4, 2017 9:48:25 GMT -5
I don't believe that technically infidelity is a fireable offense at a public school. It certainly wasn't at Galion. Although, I suppose that in Ontario, as at most places, it will depend on how many games the man wins.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 11:32:51 GMT -5
I don't believe that technically infidelity is a fireable offense at a public school. It certainly wasn't at Galion. Although, I suppose that in Ontario, as at most places, it will depend on how many games the man wins. Teachers are human and if that was a fire-able offense the turnover would be much higher than it is now. BUT, knowing it going into the interview and having it happen after being hired could be different. |
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Post by 7up on Sept 4, 2017 11:57:45 GMT -5
O2, take the bet. Mt Vernon is not looking at anything and West Holmes wants the OCC to add teams. I just think it would be good for MOAC to add a few bigger schools RV and Pleasant and D3 BV can play against bigger schools the ones that can't are leaving MOAC but hell maybe even one MOAC contract is up Harding joins after next season just a thought |
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Post by usa70pp on Sept 4, 2017 13:52:42 GMT -5
O2, take the bet. Mt Vernon is not looking at anything and West Holmes wants the OCC to add teams. I just think it would be good for MOAC to add a few bigger schools RV and Pleasant and D3 BV can play against bigger schools the ones that can't are leaving MOAC but hell maybe even one MOAC contract is up Harding joins after next season just a thought Clarify please. |
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