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Post by curmudgeon on Jul 31, 2019 14:41:54 GMT -5
Here's a hypothetical Put Fox at Willard--what changes? An extra 7-8 boys who play this year? One thing that won't,,and something he didn't ever have to deal with is the geo political student body make up. 27% is the figure I was quoted on Thursday night. My personal take is our student body has not produced enough boys who want to play football. The hispanic boys want to play soccer. That's their sport of choice in the Fall. We simply are short on numbers in the fall for football at present. Willard made a mistake by allowing the program to even start up. The school is not big enough to support this many programs in the fall and as a board you have to realize the damage you may cause by introducing another sport in the fall that will pull from the current programs. Terrible decision here. Football and Soccer cannot coexist for many more years. Willard may be a special case, but the Xbox has had more to do with the decline in football participation state-wide than the game of soccer.
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Post by oldno72 on Jul 31, 2019 16:24:41 GMT -5
I read in the Norwalk Relector that Willard has a grand total of 2 seniors on this years roster. I hate to be a downer but that's not good. Is it even legal to field a team with only 2 seniors? You need 11 on a field. Legal, not good, but legal. I can remember Central Crossing in Columbus fielding a varsity team of freshmen and sophomores several years ago when the school opened. They took their lumps. Hope not too many guys get hurt, because IMO, 90% of freshmen and 50% of sophmores have no business being on the field with juniors or seniors. There is a huge difference physically.
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Post by truecrimson on Aug 1, 2019 5:09:36 GMT -5
Willard made a mistake by allowing the program to even start up. The school is not big enough to support this many programs in the fall and as a board you have to realize the damage you may cause by introducing another sport in the fall that will pull from the current programs. Terrible decision here. Football and Soccer cannot coexist for many more years. Willard may be a special case, but the Xbox has had more to do with the decline in football participation state-wide than the game of soccer. I heard Norwalk has banned the Xbox in the city limits, or was that golf carts :-)
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Post by truecrimson on Aug 1, 2019 5:16:40 GMT -5
I read in the Norwalk Relector that Willard has a grand total of 2 seniors on this years roster. I hate to be a downer but that's not good. Is it even legal to field a team with only 2 seniors? You need 11 on a field. Legal, not good, but legal. I can remember Central Crossing in Columbus fielding a varsity team of freshmen and sophomores several years ago when the school opened. They took their lumps. Hope not too many guys get hurt, because IMO, 90% of freshmen and 50% of sophmores have no business being on the field with juniors or seniors. There is a huge difference physically. Don't know how many kids we'll field, heard anywhere from 20 by a few of the players to read in the paper, projecting up to 40 by the coach. My hope is if we have some solid freshman and sophomores we don't throw them to the wolves because it will run them off from playing next year, potentially. I would say if we have 2 seniors and enough juniors and sophomores to field a team, without putting the freshman at risk, we do it and let them watch from the sideline and grow both physically and mentally. I know for a fact this has some parents worried about their son's safety but that's the game of football. You may have that case or two where a special freshman can play varsity, but not too often and I didn't see anything from watching the 7-8th graders play last year that would tell me we have any of those kids ready to step into varsity as a freshman. Good luck flashes.
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Post by kniteflyer on Aug 2, 2019 15:05:26 GMT -5
Oh yeah, many lawsuits hanging over their heads for decades. All decisions in Willard are based off possible lawsuits considered by the legal team that assemble at every board meeting. Willard doesn't hire controversial coaches. And the topic header again? LOL! Devier's baggage is at the same carousel as Fox's.....only one's has been circling longer.
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Post by ScarletFever on Aug 3, 2019 13:32:55 GMT -5
Oh yeah, many lawsuits hanging over their heads for decades. All decisions in Willard are based off possible lawsuits considered by the legal team that assemble at every board meeting. Willard doesn't hire controversial coaches. And the topic header again? LOL! Devier's baggage is at the same carousel as Fox's.....only one's has been circling longer. Knite always knows how to cut thru the nonsense If Willard took the time spent throwing mud at TF over the years & put that into a coaching search instead we'd have Belichick leading the Crimson & White to the field in a few weeks.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 4, 2019 23:19:35 GMT -5
Here's a hypothetical Put Fox at Willard--what changes? An extra 7-8 boys who play this year? One thing that won't,,and something he didn't ever have to deal with is the geo political student body make up. 27% is the figure I was quoted on Thursday night. My personal take is our student body has not produced enough boys who want to play football. The hispanic boys want to play soccer. That's their sport of choice in the Fall. We simply are short on numbers in the fall for football at present.
Willard Soccer is going to be fantastic
When they schedule Lex and Ontario
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Post by duckdude on Aug 6, 2019 18:29:07 GMT -5
It is very frustrating as a parent to watch the politics and the coddleing that goes on even at the middle school level. Missing practice unexcused has no ramifications. Trying to teach your son that hard work and dedication pays off is difficult when he sees different every day. Coaches are not projecting potential at the middle school level. They lock onto kids and focus all the efforts on them. They are going to miss out on kids like mine that are tired of being invisible until all of a sudden they are six three 225 lbs. Dont ask him to play then. Because when he was a 5 9 182 pound 13 year old that was not as fast but never missed a workout or a practice you never gave him a chance. It happens more than you think when coaches are only worried about their paycheck and not the program.
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Post by curmudgeon on Aug 6, 2019 18:45:36 GMT -5
It is very frustrating as a parent to watch the politics and the coddleing that goes on even at the middle school level. Missing practice unexcused has no ramifications. Trying to teach your son that hard work and dedication pays off is difficult when he sees different every day. Coaches are not projecting potential at the middle school level. They lock onto kids and focus all the efforts on them. They are going to miss out on kids like mine that are tired of being invisible until all of a sudden they are six three 225 lbs. Dont ask him to play then. Because when he was a 5 9 182 pound 13 year old that was not as fast but never missed a workout or a practice you never gave him a chance. It happens more than you think when coaches are only worried about their paycheck and not the program. Hard work and dedication does pay off. When your kid, through hard work and dedication, becomes bigger/faster/stronger than the others and takes the job. If it's just about getting rewarded for showing up, competitive sports is probably going to be disappointing.
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Post by duckdude on Aug 6, 2019 20:40:18 GMT -5
Bottom line is if you are better than me you should play. He is not looking for a free ride. Actually we spend five hours a week working with a former coach on getting quicker and stronger not including the summer lifting program. His goal is to make the wall of the Hass. He understands that he has to do it on his own. The issue is the second tier is not getting the coaching and attention. Because of that kids are losing interest. I watched the middle school basketball team be up by 25 and kids still did not get to play. My question is this common at other schools at that level? Do we lock onto some and forget the others. If we forget the others numbers will suffer.
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Post by heavydrop7 on Aug 6, 2019 21:39:17 GMT -5
Bottom line is if you are better than me you should play. He is not looking for a free ride. Actually we spend five hours a week working with a former coach on getting quicker and stronger not including the summer lifting program. His goal is to make the wall of the Hass. He understands that he has to do it on his own. The issue is the second tier is not getting the coaching and attention. Because of that kids are losing interest. I watched the middle school basketball team be up by 25 and kids still did not get to play. My question is this common at other schools at that level? Do we lock onto some and forget the others. If we forget the others numbers will suffer. Happens all the time Duckdude, high school politics. A prime example was at my son’s former school, Perkins. In 2011 the Pirates went 2-8 with sophomore Dale Irby sitting on the sidelines, not even lettering. Gary Quisno steps in the next year, and they go 10-2, with Irby the star of the team. The kid had it when he was a sophomore, he just wasn’t one of the favorites. It’s a name game at a lot of these schools, and their records reflect that. That is why at schools like Perkins, talented kids who aren’t favorites usually end up transferring or quitting football altogether.
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Post by curmudgeon on Aug 6, 2019 22:13:32 GMT -5
It does happen. We have all seen a coach's kid start over someone more talented. Many experience similar politics in the workplace. I have always told my kids you have to be good enough to beat the competition, refs and politics. It is a lot tougher in football where there are not clubs to play/train all year like volleyball, soccer, basketball etc. But in the end, you can always find a way to beat them and it sounds like you're on track.
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