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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 10:37:52 GMT -5
I could not imagine a 6'10 kid who has already committed to play basketball at a DII college would not be a starter for a country school with an male enrollment of maybe 100.
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Post by fbfan on Nov 18, 2016 16:29:20 GMT -5
hagen, I don't know any specifics on his knees. I would have to agree with scooter. I'm sure the Ashland coaches have talked to Sheldon and they wouldn't have offered a scholarship if some good things were not expected of him.
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Post by Hagen on Nov 21, 2016 14:04:32 GMT -5
... I'm sure the Ashland coaches have talked to Sheldon and they wouldn't have offered a scholarship if some good things were not expected of him. Just asking in case Sheldon wanted a more run-n-gun approach, whereas Ashland may want more half-court set offense which would emphasize his skill set more. We all assume he'll play significant minutes, but if CC does want to run more, a 6-10 kid with bad knees isn't an ideal fit. I fully agree that a 6-10 is enticing, especially in this league. If nothing else, he should win the tip.
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Post by fbfan on Nov 21, 2016 16:16:49 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2016 23:17:48 GMT -5
CC also got a freshman transfer from Shelby who was probably Shelby's best player in that class. Shelby coach is not happy. He gave his ok for this kid to be coached for the past 2 summers by someone connected with the CC basketball program. Now GONE to CC.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2016 23:28:29 GMT -5
Yup. Logan Houle transferred there. The rest of the story. The kid's family contacted Balogh this summer wanting a guarantee he'd be on Ontario's Varisty if he came to Ontario. Balogh told them he couldn't even talk to them unless the kid was enrolled at Ontario first. Sheldon was talked to and imparted that the kid wouldn't listen to coaching. That being the case, no Sheldon, no Balogh. Research was done and it was determined he'd be on Ontario's JV team this year. Even though there are 2 Freshmen on Ontario's Varsity this year for the first time in Joe's 30+ years at Ontario. Thus, Oak Hill Academy 3rd choice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 7:28:49 GMT -5
CC also got a freshman transfer from Shelby who was probably Shelby's best player in that class. Shelby coach is not happy. He gave his ok for this kid to be coached for the past 2 summers by someone connected with the CC basketball program. Now GONE to CC.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 7:29:43 GMT -5
The Shelby Coach knew this was coming a year ago. In the summer, kids can play anywhere.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 23, 2016 14:21:42 GMT -5
EXACTLY, but he doesn't have to happy about how it happened. Ask him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 16:37:20 GMT -5
EXACTLY, but he doesn't have to happy about how it happened. Ask him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 16:38:39 GMT -5
How do you think I know that he knew it was coming. He actually is happy not to be dealing with it anymore.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 23, 2016 19:29:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 7:59:29 GMT -5
Per scooty, He said, she said, he said. He IS NOT happy about the kid playing for CC, from an impeccable source.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 7:59:40 GMT -5
I'm glad you have a good source. But there is no HE or SHE, it's HIM. I spoke directly to the person you are making the statement about.
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Post by bigox on Nov 24, 2016 8:08:11 GMT -5
Ha you two kill me. On a brighter note HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Willard you going to the Ontario scrimmage tomorrow? Want you thoughts on those teams. Harding,Huron and Upper right?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 10:48:40 GMT -5
Happy Thanksgiving back at ya.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 24, 2016 19:28:55 GMT -5
I'm glad you have a good source. But there is no HE or SHE, it's HIM. I spoke directly to the person you are making the statement about. So did the impeccable source. One very good basketball coach talking to another very good basketball coach. As opposed to a very good basketball coach taking to a nobody in the profession.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 22:20:07 GMT -5
You have hear say. I heard it direct. Accept it or not, it really doesn't matter but it's the truth.
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Post by fbfan on Nov 25, 2016 10:37:28 GMT -5
CC also got a freshman transfer from Shelby who was probably Shelby's best player in that class. Shelby coach is not happy. He gave his ok for this kid to be coached for the past 2 summers by someone connected with the CC basketball program. Now GONE to CC. Do you mean that he is unhappy about middle schoolers looking outside of his program for good coaching?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2016 13:30:40 GMT -5
First of a all it's not "middle schoolers" who are doing the looking. I don't think Sheldon is a better coach than Schwemley. If the kid's family was really looking for better coaching, they would have looked elsewhere.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2016 13:50:15 GMT -5
You have hear say. I heard it direct. Accept it or not, it really doesn't matter but it's the truth. You know just as little about law as other matters you blather about. In a court of law what you say would also be considered "hearsay". Only what Shelby's coach would say under oath would be considered to be credible. You don't even understand the Hearsay Rule. Another reason a nobody like you should be trusted more than JB and/or TH.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2016 17:25:50 GMT -5
Ha you two kill me. On a brighter note HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Willard you going to the Ontario scrimmage tomorrow? Want you thoughts on those teams. Harding,Huron and Upper right? My thoughts. Going by the outcome of the quarters, Ontario was the best team at the scrimmage with a 8-1 record. Upper was 5-4, Harding was 3-6 and Huron 2-7. With that being said, most quarters were relatively "close", all were won by under double figures. The only true blow out quarter was Ontario 18, Upper 2. And Upper came back and gave Ontario their only loss after that quarter 23-14. Ontario couldn't do anything wrong in their quarter, Upper was deadly from three land in their quarter. Was Vent hurt, transferred, not eligible? I sure didn't see anyone for Upper that looked like a kid who averaged 21 last year. With Vent I'm sure they'll be a much better team, without him, they're average. Once again scooty misled us on a few issues. He told us an Upper parent told him, "Upper may not have a full roster". The FACTS are that Upper's roster at this scrimmage was 20% larger than 2 of the teams and 33% larger than the other team. Secondly he said, "I've been told Harding is playing well in the pre-season[sic]". By what I saw at this scrimmage, I don't see how that equates. Unless they had a couple of good players missing, the competition was much better or he was being untruthful again. Marion defense was not that good, to keep up they did a lot of pushing, grabbing and holding. Their tallest kid won't make it through many games unless the coach fixes his attitude. Twice that I saw he purpose threw a player to the floor. Once a smaller player blocked him out and he grabbed him by the hips and threw him to the court. The other time a taller player beat him on a post move and again he grabbed the kid by the hips on the way up and threw him to the floor. Harding is no where near the likes of a Sandusky, Shelby and Norwalk in the NOL. Huron will have to hit a lot more of their 3-pointers to win many games this year. They had a player injure an ankle, he could not put weight on it and was on crutches the rest of the day. Ontario was the quickest of the teams and had the best inside game. Two freshman are getting a lot of playing time. Ontario might be hated more than Harding. They have more minority players.
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Post by 4 on Nov 25, 2016 18:17:31 GMT -5
Harding is still trying to find a rotation that works, and yes the big man is a hothead and gets frustrated easily but he's good in the post. Only sport he plays is basketball, I think that attitude problem would be better playing more then 1 team sport. But Harding should contend for moac once they find a rotation cause they had quite a few sophomores up day. I heard Ellis did well? Is that true Willard.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2016 18:43:39 GMT -5
If you don't have rotations figured out by the last scrimmage you're in trouble, That starts in the summer.
Don't know Ellis, the only player who stood out to me was the bad actor. He does better on the wing, made several 3-pointers. It's easier to get frustrated in the paint than on the outside, but Harding doesn't have any size other than him. His temperament in basketball would suit him better in football.
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Post by bigox on Nov 25, 2016 18:55:22 GMT -5
Went to the scrimmage too. Sat and watched 4 mediocre teams today. All of them got major flaws to shore up. Each team if they play anyone with decent post play are in big trouble! No one from Huron stood out as a 23 point scorer at any point. And got out hustled in every quarter. Harding had a couple of decent players. #5 seemed to be who the ball had to go through to get the flow of offense. Whe he sat they struggled. #13 shot outside well. Ontario looked good but didn't wow me. Their post player looks like he can do some damage this season. Guards were pretty decent under pressure. As far as Upper goes and I'm going to be pretty critical here they didn't perform well at all. They have 13 dressing varsity this year. Two freshman played alot today and it showed. Defense was lack luster at best. Size is going to be a huge issue this season and boxing out will be a must. The Vent boy was there and played in three quarters. Pretty much a non factor today. The Dible brothers didn't disappoint though. The younger one I think hit 14-17 three pointers today. I think upper took the last 4min quarter from Ontario though. I know it was only one point and that darn scoreboard was not cooperating
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Post by 4 on Nov 25, 2016 19:11:59 GMT -5
Ohh, well Ellis is favored to win moac poy by many he's a 3 point specialist and gets to the rack and can defend. Harding will be a shooting team with only 2 bigger guys booker and browley. Booker may be jv more than varsity I believe. If they can rebound they'll have a chance at every game. They played well against a good grove city team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2016 19:16:26 GMT -5
Went to the scrimmage too. Sat and watched 4 mediocre teams today. All of them got major flaws to shore up. Each team if they play anyone with decent post play are in big trouble! No one from Huron stood out as a 23 point scorer at any point. And got out hustled in every quarter. Harding had a couple of decent players. #5 seemed to be who the ball had to go through to get the flow of offense. Whe he sat they struggled. #13 shot outside well. Ontario looked good but didn't wow me. Their post player looks like he can do some damage this season. Guards were pretty decent under pressure. As far as Upper goes and I'm going to be pretty critical here they didn't perform well at all. They have 13 dressing varsity this year. Two freshman played alot today and it showed. Defense was lack luster at best. Size is going to be a huge issue this season and boxing out will be a must. The Vent boy was there and played in three quarters. Pretty much a non factor today. The Dible brothers didn't disappoint though. The younger one I think hit 14-17 three pointers today. I think upper took the last 4min quarter from Ontario though. I know it was only one point and that darn scoreboard was not cooperating Think about it. If Upper won the last quarter why did they take a timeout with 3 seconds left, to set up a play to go the length of the court for a desperation shot that missed? Obviously Ontario won the last quarter 9-8. You might be right about the these teams, but Ontario being 9-1 and Upper having the 2nd best record at 5-4 speaks volumes. Their guards made very few turnovers. The point and 2 off guards will be their leading scorers. This will be the 3rd year as starting PG for 6-0 Trey Jordon. 6-1 Quan Jackson will start for the 2nd year and letter for the 3rd year. 6-2 Jackson Todd, first off the bench last year, has improved more than any player. Grew 2 inches and added 15 pounds of muscle, can easily dunk this year. Even though a guard he will play the 4 in Joe's 4-guard offense. Ontario's 6-7 Junior forward who started last year, did very little this summer. He has his first girlfriend. You know what that can do. He has made a vast improvement from the first scrimmage, now that he's working on his game again. The way I saw these 4 teams, Ontario is far from perfect, but way ahead of the other 3 at this point.
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Post by gt1975 on Nov 25, 2016 19:30:00 GMT -5
I heard that Vent was the player that was suspended for the first 6 games.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 19:51:52 GMT -5
You have hear say. I heard it direct. Accept it or not, it really doesn't matter but it's the truth. You know just as little about law as other matters you blather about. In a court of law what you say would also be considered "hearsay". Only what Shelby's coach would say under oath would be considered to be credible. You don't even understand the Hearsay Rule. Another reason a nobody like should not be trusted more than JB and/or TH. Again you do not understand because you want to argue everything. I said YOU have hearsay. I have it direct. You are getting it third person. You heard what someone wanted to tell you. I heard it straight from the guy you are claiming to know about. Both may be hearsay, but I know what was said. YOUu were told what was said.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 19:53:52 GMT -5
Ha you two kill me. On a brighter note HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Willard you going to the Ontario scrimmage tomorrow? Want you thoughts on those teams. Harding,Huron and Upper right? My thoughts. Was Vent hurt, transferred, not eligible? I sure didn't see anyone for Upper that looked like a kid who averaged 21 last year. With Vent I'm sure they'll be a much better team, without him, they're average. Once again scooty misled us on a few issues. He told us an Upper parent told him, "Upper may not have a full roster". The FACTS are that Upper's roster at this scrimmage was 20% larger than 2 of the teams and 33% larger than the other team. Secondly he said, "I've been told Harding is playing well in the pre-season[sic]". By what I saw at this scrimmage, I don't see how that equates. Unless they had a couple of good players missing, the competition was much better or he was being untruthful again. Marion defense was not that good, to keep up they did a lot of pushing, grabbing and holding. Their tallest kid won't make it through many games unless the coach fixes his attitude. Twice that I saw he purpose threw a player to the floor. Once a smaller player blocked him out and he grabbed him by the hips and threw him to the court. The other time a taller player beat him on a post move and again he grabbed the kid by the hips on the way up and threw him to the floor. Harding is no where near the likes of a Sandusky, Shelby and Norwalk in the NOL. Huron will have to hit a lot more of their 3-pointers to win many games this year. They had a player injure an ankle, he could not put weight on it and was on crutches the rest of the day. Ontario was the quickest of the teams and had the best inside game. Two freshman are getting a lot of playing time. Ontario might be hated more than Harding. They have more minority players. They did not have a full roster if Vent was not there. Besides, I was talking once season starts.
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