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MOAC 23-24
Dec 22, 2023 16:52:32 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 22, 2023 16:52:32 GMT -5
Once the ball is handed to the free throw shooter it is not supposed to be taken back. If the time out is not called/acknowledged before the ball is handed to the player it is not supposed to be given. It the official did not acknowledge/give the time out the ball should not have been taken from the shooter. The timeout was being called prior to the player having the ball. We have all seen a football play clock read 00 before a whistle is blown but yet a timeout is given because the ref heard it being yelled prior to expiration. Many, many, many, free-throw shooters will have a ball taken from their hands during the course of this season by a seemingly late whistle or annoying late horn from the scorers table. That may be the case, but it’s not the rule. If the official doesn’t acknowledge the time out and blow the whistle before the ball is handed to the shooter or the scorers table hits the buzzer after the ball is handed to the shooter the player is supposed to be aloud to compete the free throw.
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MOAC 23-24
Dec 22, 2023 12:51:24 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 22, 2023 12:51:24 GMT -5
Once the ball is handed to the free throw shooter it is not supposed to be taken back. If the time out is not called/acknowledged before the ball is handed to the player it is not supposed to be given. It the official did not acknowledge/give the time out the ball should not have been taken from the shooter.
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 17, 2023 18:50:09 GMT -5
Wow! A win is a win they all equal the same ! And my heart sunk on that Hail Mary , it was in Mooneys lap. I was there. He caught it and it miraculously popped out. Early Christmas present for Cleveland. The sun was shining. Almost 50 degrees. The stars aligned.
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MOAC 23-24
Dec 16, 2023 21:13:24 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 16, 2023 21:13:24 GMT -5
I was just texted Bruskotter has 32 of those 46.
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MOAC 23-24
Dec 12, 2023 16:09:32 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 12, 2023 16:09:32 GMT -5
I’m not trying to say what Indianapolis did was a good idea. What I was saying is people way smarter than Ontario administrators with way more clout and experience took a chance or practical experience over coaching experience. If I looked hard enough I could probably find someone with little to no experience that was successful on their first go around.
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MOAC 23-24
Dec 12, 2023 14:19:24 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 12, 2023 14:19:24 GMT -5
I’m not advocating hiring someone with no experience. I’m just saying it’s not unprecedented and at way higher levels than Ontario.
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MOAC 23-24
Dec 12, 2023 13:05:52 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 12, 2023 13:05:52 GMT -5
He just might have been dumb thinking he could change things. Just yanking your chain. Check Trying to change things and giving into them are two different things. The previous coach was changing things. The current coach is giving into them. Just because someone enjoys mowing their lawn and is good at it, doesn't make them a candidate for head grounds keeper at Westbrook. I can't imagine a hospital hiring a lead surgeon who had never performed surgery. Usually, experience does matter. Jeff Saturday got named the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts with three years of high school coaching experience. I’m guessing his time as a player enhanced his resume. Maybe college and some time playing in Europe enhanced Moton’s resume. It’s not unprecedented.
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MOAC 23-24
Dec 10, 2023 18:09:01 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 10, 2023 18:09:01 GMT -5
Marion Harding 63, Highland 43 R Valley 61, Pleasant 52 I am surprised by the Ontario loss. Upper was 3-20 last year and 0-2 to start the season. From an elite program under Balogh to this. The Pleasant R Valley score was closer than I expected. Ontario is in a very bad place due to their parents and now have to ride out this hurricane until the ship is corrected with someone who knows what to do. But former Shelby guy fanofthegame is a supporter of this disaster. Let’s clarify something. I said he’s a good guy who definitely knows basketball. I’ve played pickup with him and he’s not a guy who takes over a game purely with his talent which he could against almost anyone in the area he plays against. He plays good solid ball hitting open teammates, playing solid defense, rebounding, etc. With that knowledge I said he wasn’t a bad hire. I’ve never seen him coach. Knowing the game is part of coaching. Check. Being passionate about the game is part of coaching. Check. Being able to convey that and get buy in from a group of 14-18 year olds is also part of coaching. Since this is his first attempt it’s obviously an unknown. I might give the guy more than one offseason and 2-3 games, but what do I know. I also don’t think he is responsible for the mess in Ontario. He just might have been dumb thinking he could change things.
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 7, 2023 16:11:20 GMT -5
With NIL and the transfer portal college football will never be the same. I’m an advocate of them getting paid. They put in the work, take the risk, and bring in the revenue, but without some guardrails on this highway we’re headed for the ditch or worse yet off a cliff. Sigh. Unless TV revenue goes down or attendance drops (but mostly TV revenue) the powers to be in college won't see the need for guardrails. I think enthusiasm will wane, but gradually so it probably will go unnoticed. Think about how crazy this is. A quarterback on a perennial national championship contender who went 11-1 thinks the grass is greener somewhere else. Rather than looking inside and working harder to get better he’s taking his ball and going home (elsewhere really). Is this what sports and college football is supposed to be teaching. I’ve always said football (and to a lesser extent basketball, baseball, wrestling) is one of the few ways we have left to make boys into men. Is this the kind of men we want to make? Another sign of the beginning of the end. Man, do I sound old.
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 7, 2023 13:09:24 GMT -5
RB Chip Traynimin (sp) is 13th buckeye to enter portal. With NIL and the transfer portal college football will never be the same. I’m an advocate of them getting paid. They put in the work, take the risk, and bring in the revenue, but without some guardrails on this highway we’re headed for the ditch or worse yet off a cliff. Sigh.
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 4, 2023 16:31:55 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what happens wherever McCord lands. If he does really well is that an indication of coaching?
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 2, 2023 19:42:41 GMT -5
If FSU loses this whole thing gets really murky.
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 1, 2023 21:37:18 GMT -5
Shelby pretty easily at all three levels over Madison.
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The Game
Dec 1, 2023 20:38:00 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Dec 1, 2023 20:38:00 GMT -5
this post is particularly relevant to ohio state fans, but other opinions are welcome of course. i have friends who are on the “fire ryan day” train until last night after i saw and showed them another post comparing ryan to other elite college coaches. *ryan is in his 5th year as headcoach at osu - nick saban didn’t compete for his first natty until his 10th season as hc at lsu - kirby smart made the playoff in his second year with uga where they lost to bama, and he won it all in his 6th and 7th seasons, similar to day. - dabo didn’t compete for a title until his 8th season where clemson beat bama for the natty all of the coaches listed have had a period of irrelevancy before they became who we see them as today. not to mention ryan day has a 56-7 record and has led ohio state to being the only team to make the playoff the last 3 out of 4 years. let’s just be patient with ryan and wait it out. after all, michigan stuck with harbaugh despite starting his tenure at michigan 0-5 against ohio state. Even if it were true before each of those coaches took over: Georgia was good. Clemson was .750 ish. Alabama was mediocre. When Day took over OSU was elite with elite talent. The others had to build a program or, at least, take them to the next level and that takes some time.
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MOAC 23-24
Nov 30, 2023 22:07:43 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 30, 2023 22:07:43 GMT -5
I think there are some kids who could play a role and be a part of something bigger than themselves if they can swallow their ego and realize they aren’t going to be the star of the team. I think I may have to take the blame for that loss. I didn’t stitch one of the key starters head up fast enough to get him back on the court. Is that the game you’re referring to? I am referencing that game. I remember Andy Knapp diving for his life into the corner late in the game (maybe hit some chairs?). I was under the impression that it was some gash on his brow that wasn't going to stop bleeding with any sort of quick fix. That was the basic story that trickled down into our household from my brother and his friends. The easy conspiracy was that you botched Shelby's chances, but I do recall watching the game on WMFD replay and there being a scene with whether or not Knapp was going to be glued/stitched up quick enough to get back in the game. I think most recognized in hindsight that a facial contusion of sorts being less easily remedied than a scuffed knee or elbow. I tried to “Bandaid” it, but it gaped and wouldn’t stop bleeding. A timeout wasn’t enough time to get it stitched closed. Lord knows I tried.
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MOAC 23-24
Nov 29, 2023 16:43:15 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 29, 2023 16:43:15 GMT -5
Mansfield News Journal's preview for Shelby indicates that a lot of kids went out for the team this year that were on the fence/hadn't played for a few seasons. Whether or not everyone is a value-add remains to be seen, but any roster with eight seniors on it is probably going to have a certain quality to it that is uncommon and sought after. The last Shelby team I can reliably say had that many seniors was the 07-08 team. I think they had 10 seniors? 11? That Whippet team lost to Lex in OT in the District Finals after beating a 21-1 Fostoria in the District Semis. I think there are some kids who could play a role and be a part of something bigger than themselves if they can swallow their ego and realize they aren’t going to be the star of the team. I think I may have to take the blame for that loss. I didn’t stitch one of the key starters head up fast enough to get him back on the court. Is that the game you’re referring to?
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 28, 2023 10:30:06 GMT -5
as I look back on the game when you have two pretty good teams that are evenly matched. It really came down to which quarterback played air error-free football for 60 minutes or close to it and I think that was definitely the case this year as well. JJ didn’t do anything spectacular but he also didn’t make any significant mistakes and that ended up being the difference in this game as well. That is essentially the difference. Look at the stats. Yards, time of possession, etc. they’re almost identical. The only disparity is turnovers. You can overcome a turnover, but you have to beat the other team somewhere else and OSU didn’t. They just matched them everywhere else.
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The Game
Nov 24, 2023 20:25:29 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 24, 2023 20:25:29 GMT -5
evidently some of you haven’t been watching Trey Henderson the last 2-3 games. He’s healthy , he’s got fresh legs and he’s red hot. Btw— how is mich going to cover Marv , cover Stover, cover EE and slow down Trey ? And on offense how are they gonna block JT and Sawyer when their OT’s can’t block “average DE’s” let alone good ones like we’ve got . Their wr’s haven’t faced db’s like ours either. Mich has peaked imo. While OSU continues to get better. Agree with that last statement the most.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 18, 2023 12:57:47 GMT -5
The question is does in demoralize them or motivate them.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 15, 2023 18:24:47 GMT -5
How about trading away Dobbs who took the Vikings to their last two wins? They got a fifth round draft pick for him.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 7, 2023 11:31:49 GMT -5
When you Google OHSAA violations things do pop up. There also isn’t any mention on their website. In 2023 I’m going to confirm rumors since we have the interwebs 😜.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 4, 2023 7:05:26 GMT -5
Don’t sell Ontario short. They’re young, but they’ll be well coached and I believe he’ll get a lot out of them. I played an open gym with them and they got after it. Being reported that the "well coached" Ontario Warriors have received their first OHSAA discipline under their new leadership for numerous illegal practices during the fall season. Where is that information available? I Googled it and nothing comes up.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 3, 2023 22:19:15 GMT -5
Don’t sell Ontario short. They’re young, but they’ll be well coached and I believe he’ll get a lot out of them. I played an open gym with them and they got after it.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 3, 2023 20:39:19 GMT -5
71-41 final.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 3, 2023 20:24:31 GMT -5
71-34. Revenge if being had.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 3, 2023 20:16:00 GMT -5
VW went for it on 4th down. Ball at midfield needed the twenty something for a first down. INT. Shelby scores immediately on a 75 ish yard TD pass. Went for two and got it. 64-34. Running clock.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 3, 2023 20:06:12 GMT -5
VW three and out. Shelby scores again. 56-34.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 3, 2023 19:59:29 GMT -5
Shelby scored on the opening drive. First two TD lead by anyone.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 3, 2023 19:51:30 GMT -5
I confirmed it to n the press box with one of the radio stations. VW mid 200’s yards passing , 60 some yards running almost all on a big play opening drive. Shelby mid 200’s passing, mid 100’s rushing.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 3, 2023 19:45:45 GMT -5
That’s really all VW’s offense. A couple of double moves by receivers that DB’s bit on. Their running game hasn’t produced as much. If Shelby can stop giving up big plays they’ll be ok. Shelby’s drives are a little more sustained and balanced.
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