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Post by gridiron58 on Feb 28, 2020 13:44:13 GMT -5
Forgive me for asking; is Coach Santaro officially on the hot seat? Probably the bigger question is will he even want to keep coaching once his youngest daughter graduates?
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Post by gridiron58 on Feb 27, 2020 19:48:04 GMT -5
I just got texted Perkins 63-59. Correct? Correct
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Post by gridiron58 on Feb 27, 2020 19:38:11 GMT -5
Perkins and Willard (I think they'll beat Shelby this time) might have something to say about that. Can't let off the gas. it won't matter, Bellevue is going to run through this district. they have a giant chip on their shoulder now, it might get ugly for whoever they play. I like them to make it to the final 4 for sure You were saying......
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Post by gridiron58 on Feb 12, 2020 21:57:49 GMT -5
Jason Ward posted this to Facebook a few hours ago... The world needs more people like this!!!
"In regard to the incident that occurred during the Norwalk – Bellevue girls varsity basketball game on Saturday, 2/8/2020. First, let me just say that, as a father, this was hard to watch happen to my child and no parent or child should ever go through something like this. Liv is recovering and my family would like to extend our deepest gratitude for all the prayers and well wishes from all of you who have reached out to us.
I am pleased to let everyone know that the Santoro family has reached out to my family, directly, to extend their apologies for what occurred during Saturday’s game. Their daughter has issued a public apology for her actions that day and we plan to meet up soon, father to father, player to player, kid to kid, in order for Casey to apologize in person.
This event has been extremely trying, not only for Liv (especially) and my family, but for Casey and the Santoro family as well. The shear amount of coverage regarding this matter has placed both of our families in the spotlight, not only locally, but nationally as well. This spotlight is something that both of our families want to move on from at this point. Both of our families want to put this behind us. In short, Casey Santoro has apologized, publicly, for her actions on that fateful day. Her father, Kory, has reached out to apologize to me directly and I know that must not have been an easy thing to do. However, it was the right thing to do.
Although 18, Casey is still, in essence, a kid who is loved by her family and community. She made a mistake, which we are all guilty of at some point, and will have to live with the ramifications of that. That being said, my family, and more importantly, Liv, does not want to see Casey’s life and future ruined over this. We don’t want Casey, or the Santoro family, to be verbally or physically assaulted, threatened or otherwise harassed due to this momentary lapse in good judgement. However one might view the events and subsequent video of the incident, this does not justify the hateful, threatening comments towards Casey, or the Santoro family on social media. As a father, this is not something that I condone and as a decent human being I find it disgraceful that this kid would be threatened on social media or otherwise. Did she mess up in a big way?, yes. Does she regret it?..only Casey and God know that. But she has apologized and Liv plans to accept her apology as I have accepted her father, Kory’s apology. If you are guilty of posting anything hateful or threatening toward this kid, please stop. Please don’t do this because you think you are defending Liv. This is not helpful. This is not what Liv or my family wants. Sonja and I do our best as parents and this is a chance to for us and our family to forgive someone, however hard it may be, which we have done and will do, in person, very soon.
Some may not agree with our decision and that’s ok. Some might seek revenge for what happened, we will not. Some might want to ruin this kids life forever for what occurred……Liv and our family do not.
**Liv said to me today, “Dad, I know how hard I have worked to get where I am at and set myself up for the future, I know that Casey has worked just as hard and I don’t want to see her to lose everything over this” ….Liv’s words, not mine.
This is Liv, this is my family.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. Thanks, sincerely, for your support of Liv and my family. Much Love to you all.
**Please share**"
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Post by gridiron58 on Feb 9, 2020 10:01:40 GMT -5
Don't know about net cutting, sure was hair ripping and slamming a body to the floor game. Still see they teach this crap at that school. Video has already hit social media and sure it will make it to both AD offices if not OHSAA offices also. It’s hilarious people from Norwalk try to make this a thing. The Ward girl that flopped... was throwing elbows and grabbing cloth the entire game to try and get underneath Santoro’s skin. Anyone who was at the game realized that, and anyone who has zero bias could see that. It’s a shame that a parent tried to shame a KID on Facebook. I feel bad for the Santoro girl. Know her personally and know the issue that has gone on with this same person for years now. Not saying her retaliation was right. But if you mess with the bull you get the horns. Here is a link the video: m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3258270624188367&id=100000163839925&sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=i There is NO EXCUSE for this!!!! This goes WAY past rough play and trash talking. This is worse than sucker punching someone in the back of the head. I have no rooting interest in either Norwalk or Bellevue. As a parent, if this were to happen to my daughter AND nothing was done about it buy the officials, coaches, AD, League or the OHSAA, the police would be at this girl's door with an assault charge. Bellevue girls are posting stuff like "Weave it alone" and "We Weaved our way to the championship". Where are the adults?
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Post by gridiron58 on Dec 24, 2019 10:16:26 GMT -5
Is the SBC website www.sanduskybayconference.net/ run by the league? If so, it's kind of crazy a league sponsored website is still missng basic inforation like league standings and records. The running scoreboard is nice but many scores are never posted.
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Post by gridiron58 on Dec 17, 2019 21:59:41 GMT -5
Hopewell-Loudon has wins of 51, 63, 60, 57, and 64 points this season thus far. The Chieftains have allowed more than eight points in a quarter only once (led Calvert, 31-14 after one quarter this past Saturday). Another public school the OHSAA allows to openly recruit. These transfer rules are a joke.
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Post by gridiron58 on Nov 23, 2019 20:52:55 GMT -5
It’s stupid is what it is...St Mary’s kids could go to Perkins Huron or Sandusky to play...St Joe Fremont or Clyde ....Danbury to PC ... How is it stupid? Have you considered that the kids that chose to attend SMCC & SJCC might rather play 8 man for their own school than 11 man with someone else? If they wanted to play for Pekins, Huron, Sandusky, Fremont or Clyde they could attend those schools. Just because 8 man football is different than what you are used to doesn't make it dumb.
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Post by gridiron58 on Aug 3, 2019 9:44:26 GMT -5
The team in parenthesis is who their former opponent is now playing. Games in Green will be played as 8-man. SMCC TC Holgate
W1 St.Paul (Northgate PA) Waynesfield Goshen (Ayersville) Stryker W2 Monroeville Arcadia (Waynesfield-Goshen) Waynesfield-Goshen (Arcadia) W3 Bucyrus (Grandview Heights) FSJCC (Hilltop) Hilltop (FSJCC) W4 FSJCC Hilltop (Oscoda MI) Edgerton W5 Lakota (Hicksville) Cardinal Stritch (Warren JFK) Hicksville (Lakota) W6 HL Montpelier (Tinora) Tinora (Montpelier) W7 Gibsonburg (Antwerp) Stryker Antwerp (Gibsonburg) W8 Calvert Northwood (Whetstone) Wayne-Trace (Dayton Jefferson) W9 Margaretta Edon (Ayersville) Ayersville (Edon) W10 Danbury Ottawa Hills (Royal Imperial CA) Fairview From SJCC website: (https://www.bishop-hoffman.net/football) Week 4 - SJCC @ Edgerton 9/20
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 19, 2018 16:43:29 GMT -5
What happened between Bellevue and Huron? Both started playing each other again for a few years, and now, Huron won't touch them with a 10 ft pole? What gives? Apparently Huron told Bellevue to call them when they have soccer, which makes little sense and is a weak excuse for dropping them. If that is true then good for Huron! This makes perfect sence. Bellevue won't offer soccer because it would even the playing field. Pull 30 athletes out of the school that would rather play soccer (like the other schools their size do) and see where Bellevue's football team stacks up? It's not a weak excuse. Bellevue chooses to not offer soccer to protect their football program. Huron chooses not to play Bellevue to protect their football program.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 23, 2018 14:57:08 GMT -5
No Willard, it is a typical responce of somone who is done reading all the nonsense you spew. They say ignorance is bliss... you must be a very happy person indeed. Point out the "nonsense". If you can't, it further proves you have nothing of substance to add. I really don't have the time or patience to point out all of your nonsense. To save time, I will list all of your points that do make sense. Please refer to the list below: 1) 2) 3)
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 21, 2018 18:01:56 GMT -5
I get it now! When Willard signs of with JMHO, it stands for "Just My Horrible Opinion". A typical retort of the loser of a debate. When there is nothing more of substance to add. No Willard, it is a typical responce of somone who is done reading all the nonsense you spew. They say ignorance is bliss... you must be a very happy person indeed.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 20, 2018 19:14:56 GMT -5
Well said Fan! I agree with almost everything you said with the exception of the privates having it easier because of multiple school districts. With public school open enrollment you don't need to live in the same district you go to school in. All your other points are spot on! Thank you. Unless things have changed (and they seem to every year) an athlete can transfer into a private once after the ninth grade without sitting. Not a huge advantage, but a little. Someone can enlighten me if that’s no longer true. Hey Fan, a few years ago when the Woodmore football coach took over at St. Joe, his son who was going into his Junior year came to SJ with him and he had to sit out the first 5 games.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 20, 2018 16:24:51 GMT -5
Per usual for this time of year there are multiple needless threads about "transferring". In one of them someone told a story about what they did when they were a Senior. Playing 3 different sports at 3 different schools. As I noticed, after the fact, it was not you. My "mind" is crustal clear regarding "transfers". Your "mind" is the one that has issues. It is no longer feasible to play 3 different sports at 3 different schools in ones Senior year in high school. There was a time when one could do that, no longer. It would be such a blatant infraction the schools themselves would not allow it or they would be punished. What you're whining about is perfectly legal according to the OHSAA Bylaws. There is no rule against a PROPER move from one school district to another. YOU made a supposition about a school and a business conspiring to get a teenager a high paying job in another district so he/she would be able to declare him/herself as independent of their parents. Can you site a example? If not it's just your "mind" working over time to come up with an improbable outlandish occurrence. You do not have to inform ANYONE that illegalities occur all the time. Thus my EXACTLY!!. BUT compared to all of the proper actions, they are minuscule in comparison. What you should take away from this is....that you're whining about a LEGAL transfer from Bellevue to Fremont makes you look trivial and your general whining about possible illegal transfers, that you can't sight an example of, is a waste of time. Have a good time giving yourself a stroke over minor life occurrences. JMHO I get it now! When Willard signs of with JMHO, it stands for "Just My Horrible Opinion".
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 20, 2018 16:19:40 GMT -5
I’ll say it for the ?’th this is not entirely a public/private thing. We all have to acknowledge that there are public schools with good programs in a particular sport that draw move ins. I will concede that under current OHSAA rules it is easier for privates. That will be hard to level 100% by the very nature of the fact private schools draw from a geographic area that encompasses multiple school districts. People actually enroll their children in private schools for reasons other than athletics and you can’t punish them if the kid plays a sport. You could minimize that by making them all designate a geographic area of draw. That way if a Mentor kid enrolls at St. Ignatious you could make an argument he drove past a few pretty good academic, Catholic schools on his way to the football program on the west side. Move ins are like pornography. It’s hard to define, but you’ll know it when you see it. Who are we kidding? Everyone knows in an area when a kid is moving for athletics and not because dad got a new job. Administration should do their job and police it. It’s high school sports for gosh sakes. Isn’t it about teaching kids the right thing to do...sigh. The OHSAA could also go a long way by making a competitive balance formula with some teeth. It would have to be different for each sport. A single move in can make a bigger difference in b-ball than f-ball. If, say, two move ins make the varsity b-ball team you jump a division coaches would have to think that one through. Well said Fan! I agree with almost everything you said with the exception of the privates having it easier because of multiple school districts. With public school open enrollment you don't need to live in the same district you go to school in. All your other points are spot on!
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 20, 2018 5:47:38 GMT -5
EXACTLY!!! THUS, nothing is ever going to make you feel better about student athletes and their families moving. Families using Ohio's Open Enrollment Program to get their students into a better situation in another school district or transferring in any shape, manner or form, legal or illegal. It is what it is, what it will always be. Sorry to break this to you. WE ALL KNOW IT! You're not telling us anything we haven't already heard a hundred times. These whining threads and posts come out of the wood work every year. It doesn't help, unless it makes you feel better. Make up your mind Willard. A few posts ago you said "Your example is now impossible." When I give you an example of it happening this year, you say "It is what it is, what it will always be. Sorry to break this to you. WE ALL KNOW IT!" So according to you it is both impossible and it happens all the time? A few post ago you say "A school arranging for a company to give a student a high paying job JUST to play a sport at another school is illegal. " (Making it sound like if something is illegal nobody will do it.) When I inform you that people do illegal things all the time... your response is "EXACTLY!!!" (Exactly? Do you realize that my point was the exact opposite of yours?). Seriously Willard, you may as well just start your own thread and argue with yourself.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 19, 2018 19:49:38 GMT -5
A school arranging for a company to give a student a high paying job JUST to play a sport at another school is illegal. This rule was made for 18-19 year old kids who have moved out to get away from what they perceive is a bad household. YES, and the best paying job they could get and an inexpensive apartment is in another school district. EXAMPLE, you attend a little school in a cross road town, that doesn't even have a McDonalds to work at. They would have to go to a bigger town in another school district to find any job when they move out. JMHO Sorry to break this to you Willard, but people do illegal stuff all the time.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 19, 2018 17:07:19 GMT -5
Public schools do the same thing ALL THE TIME!!! Kids open enroll almost anywhere. Kids play at one school one year and then "move" 15 min away and transfer to a better basktball situation and can play day one with absolutely no punshment. Apparently this is perfectly fine. I even saw an interview with one girl from Rogers who said "I came to Rogers to win a State Championship", indicating the "choice" the student made to attend Rogers. Imagine the uproar if that would have been a private school? Can you please tell me the difference between talented kids deciding to play together at a private school instead of a public school? All private schools should be D2 or greater? Lets look at some of these D4 recruiting powerhouses... NW Ohio private school Girls Records this year: Calvert 4-17, SMCC 8-15, SJCC: 21-4 (lead by 5 seniors who have played together since 4th grade and most of their parents also attended SJCC), Cardinal Stritch 7-16, Emmanual Christian 8-14, Toledo Christian 13-10, MVCD 13-10, St. Paul 13-8. Comparing Columbus Africentric with Tiffin Calvert or Sandusky St. Mary is just plain silly. I honestly don't believe this is a public/private school issue... it's a large area/small area issue. The choices students have in Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo are a whole lot different than Attica, Tiffin or Fremont. Maybe they could find a way to "pool" schools together in the tournament based on the number of students within a certain number of miles (instead of school district, because SD doesn't mean anything with open enrollment)? If athletics are important enough to a student and the parents are on board, they are going to find a way to play for the school they want to play with weather that is a public or private school. Your example is now impossible. If you Open Enroll you can only play in half of the games in a season, in all sports you played the previous year at the school district you came from. The only way it is possible these days is if the parents want to go through the hassle of REALLY moving their ENTIRE family three times a year to new houses or apartments in different school districts I said nothing about kids transfering 3 times a year... not sure where you got that from. My example is exactly what happened this year, girl played at Bellevue last year and Ross this year and did not sit out one game. I did said that they "Moved" 15 min away. Since that is one of the 11 reasons you can transfer without penalty, this new rule will do absoultely nothing to stop schools from building powerhouses with transfers. If a parent wants their kid to play at a certian school... there are 11 ways to make it happen without penalty. I especailly like this way... " Exception 4-Self-Supporting Status: If the student does not live in the same district as his/her parents and is financially selfsupporting, he/she may be ruled eligible at the school in which the student resides. Selfsupporting documentation must be submitted for approval every 30 days." So in other words, a school could arrange for some company to give a student a high paying job and the kid would be free to live and play at any school they wanted! Seriously, this is Exception #4 of 11! Are there really that many self-supporting high school students that they needed to put this exception in the rulebook? It is a joke. Changing the sit-out rule to include tournaments is not going to stop the schools who are serious about cheating. As you can see, the standard for exceptions to the rule are not very high.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 18, 2018 20:13:11 GMT -5
Let’s try to fix one thing at a time . Put all the privates in their own bracket. Flight them according to size ... and let them try to out bid each other for the talent. Public schools can continue with their brackets as per usual. Can you please explain why it is ok for Rogers to recruit a State Championship team but it is not ok for a private school? I really don't see the difference.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 18, 2018 20:06:37 GMT -5
I have a basketball solution that might even out the playing field. Might work for other sports too. Bare minimum all Private Schools are D2,,unless their enrollment is at D1 level then they go to D1 . Don't agree at all with privately selecting the student athletes and being in D3 or D4 and making it to State year after year. Not a level playing field whatsoever,,girls as well as boys. Small town schools that get that once in a generation talent pool and team,,should not have to face an almost unwinnable game vs the scenario that the Private Schools bring . Nothing wrong with the Private Schools if a parent has the chance to send their child there, but it's not fare to have your cake and eat it too with the competition they will face in the Tournaments. Perfect example is a couple years ago,,Tiny Attica Seneca East having to get past a Columbus Afrincentric to make it to State in Girls Hoops should not happen. They should be matched up with an Archbold or someone like that. Columbus A should have to get past a Toledo Rogers type NW Region team to make and win State. Public schools do the same thing ALL THE TIME!!! Kids open enroll almost anywhere. Kids play at one school one year and then "move" 15 min away and transfer to a better basktball situation and can play day one with absolutely no punshment. Apparently this is perfectly fine. I even saw an interview with one girl from Rogers who said "I came to Rogers to win a State Championship", indicating the "choice" the student made to attend Rogers. Imagine the uproar if that would have been a private school? Can you please tell me the difference between talented kids deciding to play together at a private school instead of a public school? All private schools should be D2 or greater? Lets look at some of these D4 recruiting powerhouses... NW Ohio private school Girls Records this year: Calvert 4-17, SMCC 8-15, SJCC: 21-4 (lead by 5 seniors who have played together since 4th grade and most of their parents also attended SJCC), Cardinal Stritch 7-16, Emmanual Christian 8-14, Toledo Christian 13-10, MVCD 13-10, St. Paul 13-8. Comparing Columbus Africentric with Tiffin Calvert or Sandusky St. Mary is just plain silly. I honestly don't believe this is a public/private school issue... it's a large area/small area issue. The choices students have in Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo are a whole lot different than Attica, Tiffin or Fremont. Maybe they could find a way to "pool" schools together in the tournament based on the number of students within a certain number of miles (instead of school district, because SD doesn't mean anything with open enrollment)? If athletics are important enough to a student and the parents are on board, they are going to find a way to play for the school they want to play with weather that is a public or private school.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 2, 2018 20:40:12 GMT -5
That new rule will put a dent in kids transferring back and forth just because one team is better at a certain sport than another or having him/her going to a school then next year going to another just because the other team is going to be better than the team he transfer to last year. Another moronic rule by the all mighty OHSAA. So you can "move" 15 min away with no penalty (and everyone knows the only reason is basketball), but if your parents can't afford to move (or they don't put a ridiculous amount of focus on sports) that kid misses the second half of a season after being able to play the first half? Just stupid.
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 1, 2018 22:04:22 GMT -5
Margaretta - 61 Crestview - 42
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 1, 2018 21:37:51 GMT -5
Perkins - 49 Central Catholic - 42
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Post by gridiron58 on Mar 1, 2018 20:58:55 GMT -5
St. Joe - 49 Old Fort - 41
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Post by gridiron58 on Feb 28, 2018 18:21:41 GMT -5
Does anyone know who won the SBC River Division in baseball last year (2016-17)?
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Post by gridiron58 on Feb 22, 2018 6:33:51 GMT -5
Does Willard have a much larger number of girls than boys? I was surprised to see them in the Division II bracket with Bellevue and teams like Edison & Eastwood are D III? All this while the boys are small enough to play football in the SBC River Division?
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Scores
Feb 15, 2018 22:49:51 GMT -5
Post by gridiron58 on Feb 15, 2018 22:49:51 GMT -5
St. Joe - 59 New Riegel - 44
St. Joe is outright SBC River Champions. 10-0 in division.
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Scores
Jan 9, 2018 21:38:51 GMT -5
Post by gridiron58 on Jan 9, 2018 21:38:51 GMT -5
St. Joe 54 - New Riegel 47 Bellevue 51 - Norwalk 35 Clyde 51 - Columbian 33 Shelby 39 - Perkins 66 Margaretta 72 - Port Clinton 27 Oak Harbor 34 - Edison 28 Old Fort 43 - St. Mary 41 Monroeville 40 - Lakota 32 Ross 56 - Sandusky 43
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Post by gridiron58 on Jan 9, 2018 16:24:01 GMT -5
Thanks cbus... here you go!
As of 1/8/18
Lake Division:
Bellevue 11-1 (5-0)
Norwalk 9-2 (4-0)
Perkins 6-4 (2-2)
Clyde 6-6 (3-2)
Columbian 5-6 (2-3)
Shelby 3-7 (1-4)
Sandusky 3-8 (0-6)
Bay Division:
Margaretta 10-2 (4-1)
Oak Harbor 9-3 (3-2)
Williard 7-3 (5-0)
Edison 7-4 (3-2)
Vermilion 7-7 (2-4)
Port Clinton 2-9 (1-4)
Huron 0-9 (0-5)
River Division:
St. Joe 10-2 (4-0)
Lakota 4-5 (1-3)
Old Fort 4-6 (2-2)
New Riegel 3-6 (2-0)
St. Mary 3-7 (1-1)
Calvert 2-7 (0-4)
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Post by gridiron58 on Jan 8, 2018 20:21:47 GMT -5
I'm sure you know all about "red azz" so I'll defer to your expertise. Only your Mother's. Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself? Strong.
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