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Post by usa70pp on Sept 18, 2018 9:44:48 GMT -5
Talk to me after you have watched them for more than 20 years. Trying to "pump up" the team? Bist du total verrückt? I'm new to this board but not new to the teams here...I have not known the Pleasant defenses to be lacking in too many areas over the last 20 years. Kubbs, Carroll, Cook and company do a pretty good job in all facets. I would have to say then that you must have only gone to games where the opponents threw few or no passes. |
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Post by hsfootballfan on Sept 18, 2018 9:55:21 GMT -5
I'm new to this board but not new to the teams here...I have not known the Pleasant defenses to be lacking in too many areas over the last 20 years. Kubbs, Carroll, Cook and company do a pretty good job in all facets. I would have to say then that you must have only gone to games where the opponents threw few or no passes. Maybe very true...But I have always been impressed by their defenses. But although I have seen them playt...you may be very accurate in that I probably have not seen them challenged much in that area. |
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Post by gt1975 on Sept 19, 2018 13:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 19, 2018 13:49:43 GMT -5
eye roll at the headline calling it a "poll"
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Post by babymaker on Sept 19, 2018 16:01:23 GMT -5
Talk to me after you have watched them for more than 20 years. Trying to "pump up" the team? Bist du total verrückt? I'm new to this board but not new to the teams here...I have not known the Pleasant defenses to be lacking in too many areas over the last 20 years. Kubbs, Carroll, Cook and company do a pretty good job in all facets. I have watched enough to know that if they played a Kenton style team with average talent they would have issues.
They went from Man only to a mix of man and zone but they don't do much disguising of what they run and you can dictate the coverage as an O team. Good passing teams love to know what coverage they get on 90% of the plays and motioning forces coverage X. A lot of time its not an issue because they have been able to rush the passer well but IF you can protect the qb you can exploit the D. That IF is often the hard part.
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Post by 4 on Oct 5, 2018 20:23:06 GMT -5
Bottom 3 BV is about to beat Pleasant, it’s Clear Forks League. Harding falls 34-7 to NU I think as well
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Post by moacpops on Oct 5, 2018 20:43:22 GMT -5
I have a feeling the MOAC is going to struggle in the playoffs.
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Post by blazer on Oct 6, 2018 13:45:59 GMT -5
I have a feeling the MOAC is going to struggle in the playoffs. I think Clear Fork will win until they play St Mary's. If North Union wins out and Pleasant loses to Clear Fork, North Union will finish ahead of Pleasant in Region 18. A one-dimensional Pleasant team will not go far in the playoffs. |
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Post by galion on Oct 6, 2018 17:16:37 GMT -5
I think CF ends up winning the region. Perhaps pleasant rebounds from this debacle and gets better.
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Post by blazer on Oct 6, 2018 17:32:19 GMT -5
Van Wert and St Mary's will give Clear Fork trouble.
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Post by galion on Oct 6, 2018 20:23:40 GMT -5
I didn't say they'd roll through them but I believe them to be the best team in the region. They've already proven that they can play at a high level after long road trips against quality opponents. You can't under state the importance of that in playoff football.
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2018 11:35:48 GMT -5
Good teams do not worry about where the game is played. At kick off, all the fields are the same size.
The disadvantage they may have is the low number of playoff caliber teams.
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Post by galion on Oct 7, 2018 13:23:36 GMT -5
Didn't seem to bother Shelby last year.
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2018 14:21:14 GMT -5
Didn't seem to bother Shelby last year. Not much bothers a NCAA D1 QB when he is playing his high school senior season with 15+ other seniors who have all been together for years. I've been known to post silly ideas but that's not a comparison even I would make. |
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Post by galion on Oct 7, 2018 18:09:09 GMT -5
Well then, might I point out that, D1 qb or not, this CF team has actually won more consecutive regular season games than even Shelby had at this time last year. I've seen plenty of teams make playoff runs and win championships without the luxury of a D1 qb. Also, by definition, every teams seniors have been together for years. So yes it is an apt comparison.
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Post by galion on Oct 7, 2018 18:11:46 GMT -5
Good teams do not worry about where the game is played. At kick off, all the fields are the same size. The disadvantage they may have is the low number of playoff caliber teams. If you don't think that an hour and a half bus ride to a venue that they've never played in before doesn't have any effect on even "good teams" you must not watch much playoff football. |
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2018 19:13:44 GMT -5
Well then, might I point out that, D1 qb or not, this CF team has actually won more consecutive regular season games than even Shelby had at this time last year. I've seen plenty of teams make playoff runs and win championships without the luxury of a D1 qb. Also, by definition, every teams seniors have been together for years. So yes it is an apt comparison. Yes you may point that out. Because we both know their regular season has been easier. And we have both seen teams go 10-0 and be done in the second round. |
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2018 19:15:35 GMT -5
Good teams do not worry about where the game is played. At kick off, all the fields are the same size. The disadvantage they may have is the low number of playoff caliber teams. If you don't think that an hour and a half bus ride to a venue that they've never played in before doesn't have any effect on even "good teams" you must not watch much playoff football. So are you saying the traveling team always loses when the bus ride is over an hour? |
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Post by galion on Oct 7, 2018 19:43:45 GMT -5
If you don't think that an hour and a half bus ride to a venue that they've never played in before doesn't have any effect on even "good teams" you must not watch much playoff football. So are you saying the traveling team always loses when the bus ride is over an hour? After the first round BOTH teams are travelling. WTF? |
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2018 19:46:17 GMT -5
galion = Captain Obvious
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Post by galion on Oct 7, 2018 19:47:59 GMT -5
The only point that I was trying to make earlier is that CF has already gone on road trips of well over and hour and won convincingly(JA and Bellevue). That impresses me, particularly at the beginning of the season in venues they've never played in before.
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Post by galion on Oct 7, 2018 19:52:57 GMT -5
Well then, might I point out that, D1 qb or not, this CF team has actually won more consecutive regular season games than even Shelby had at this time last year. I've seen plenty of teams make playoff runs and win championships without the luxury of a D1 qb. Also, by definition, every teams seniors have been together for years. So yes it is an apt comparison. Yes you may point that out. Because we both know their regular season has been easier. And we have both seen teams go 10-0 and be done in the second round. If you compare their schedules last season CF's was much harder. |
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2018 22:15:59 GMT -5
Yes you may point that out. Because we both know their regular season has been easier. And we have both seen teams go 10-0 and be done in the second round. If you compare their schedules last season CF's was much harder. You can’t honestly think and make a claim to know something local football. |
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Post by galion on Oct 8, 2018 0:57:19 GMT -5
If you compare their schedules last season CF's was much harder. You can’t honestly think and make a claim to know something local football. You don't have to take my word for it. Look at the computer points. It's not even close. That's why CF was the 1 seed in the region and Shelby wasn't. Go ahead and line up the schedules last season and show me in any way, shape, or form how you figure that CF's schedule wasn't harder. Shelby's ooc schedule alone disproves your case. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 8, 2018 1:19:27 GMT -5
You can’t honestly think and make a claim to know something local football. Go ahead and line up the schedules last season and show me in any way, shape, or form how you figure that CF's schedule wasn't harder. Shelby's ooc schedule alone disproves your case.    |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 8, 2018 1:20:56 GMT -5
If you compare their schedules last season CF's was much harder. You can’t honestly think and make a claim to know something local football. YOU would be the unknowledgeable one |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 8, 2018 1:23:25 GMT -5
Van Wert and St Mary's will give Clear Fork trouble. <iframe width="25.5" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 25.5px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_67451991" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.5" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 25.5px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1213px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_79409777" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.5" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 25.5px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_10603654" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.5" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 25.5px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1213px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_95488918" scrolling="no"></iframe> Based on what Galion did to them, ANY good spread team will give Clear Fork trouble. |
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Post by galion on Oct 8, 2018 4:31:15 GMT -5
No when CF decided to get serious in the second half they shut us down pretty easily. I think their defense spent the 1st half deciding where to take their dates before homecoming.
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Post by blazer on Oct 8, 2018 7:22:35 GMT -5
No when CF decided to get serious in the second half they shut us down pretty easily. I think their defense spent the 1st half deciding where to take their dates before homecoming. |
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Post by dude on Oct 8, 2018 8:04:14 GMT -5
You can’t honestly think and make a claim to know something local football. You don't have to take my word for it. Look at the computer points. It's not even close. That's why CF was the 1 seed in the region and Shelby wasn't. Go ahead and line up the schedules last season and show me in any way, shape, or form how you figure that CF's schedule wasn't harder. Shelby's ooc schedule alone disproves your case. Div 7 Mohawk currently has more points than Columbian, Clyde, Sandusky and Cleveland Glenville. So you would say Mohawk is better than all of them. 2017Clear Fork accumulated 33.3333 points Archbishop Moeller had 17.45 You feel Clear Fork was a better team? 2016Colerain was 10-0 and had 40.15 points and lost in second round St X was 5-5 and had 21.1798 points and was State Champs You still claim Colerain was better? Points tell a story but they don't always tell the whole story. |
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