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Post by BellevueBuckeye on May 27, 2018 18:03:16 GMT -5
That was quite a series. Gave up a lot of runs all 4 days but at least managed to outscore them the last 2
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Post by sportsjock on May 27, 2018 18:13:38 GMT -5
Incredible! After the disastrous 8th, down 8-3 decided I had other things to do, game over.
Wrong! My jaw dropped when I decided to check the final, thinking it would be an 8-3 final score.
If the pitching gets their act in gear, this is another exciting team that never gives up.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 18:35:18 GMT -5
Incredible! After the disastrous 8th, down 8-3 decided I had other things to do, game over. Wrong! My jaw dropped when I decided to check the final, thinking it would be an 8-3 final score. If the pitching gets their act in gear, this is another exciting team that never gives up. that’s a giant if, but it’s not even June yet |
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Post by sportsjock on May 27, 2018 21:42:28 GMT -5
Incredible! After the disastrous 8th, down 8-3 decided I had other things to do, game over. Wrong! My jaw dropped when I decided to check the final, thinking it would be an 8-3 final score. If the pitching gets their act in gear, this is another exciting team that never gives up. that’s a giant if, but it’s not even June yet We've been here before, never underestimate the craftiness and abilities of Terry Francona. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 22:44:05 GMT -5
that’s a giant if, but it’s not even June yet We've been here before, never underestimate the craftiness and abilities of Terry Francona. True, but he can’t pitch for them. Still bugs me that he pitched Bauer twice and not Cookie in the alds last year |
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Post by sportsjock on May 28, 2018 5:45:56 GMT -5
We've been here before, never underestimate the craftiness and abilities of Terry Francona. True, but he can’t pitch for them. Still bugs me that he pitched Bauer twice and not Cookie in the alds last year I agree...... |
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Post by quiz on Jun 3, 2018 13:53:06 GMT -5
Last year almost everything Mickey Callaway (sp) tried as the tribe pitching coach turned to gold. This year, Carl Willis, almost everything he tries has no effect, and the starters especially turn to pitching batting practice. Has he lost his effect or no one listens to him??
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Post by DrTorch on Jun 5, 2018 13:12:54 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 5, 2018 20:58:44 GMT -5
Last year almost everything Mickey Callaway (sp) tried as the tribe pitching coach turned to gold. This year, Carl Willis, almost everything he tries has no effect, and the starters especially turn to pitching batting practice. Has he lost his effect or no one listens to him?? Last year's Indian's pitching didn't happen over night, it was the culmination of several years of coaching by Callaway. Indians pitching improved yearly the 4 years under Callaway. Before that he was the pitching coach in the Indians farm for 2 years, a championship team and a runner up. Coaching some of the same pitchers. Willis isn't in the same league, he's just an old buddy of Francona. Except for Kluber, who's his own coach, no other pitcher is pitching at the same level they did for Callaway last year. |
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 6, 2018 8:29:29 GMT -5
Torch......Great story on Ramirez
Not ready to make a final judgement on Willis, quite yet.
Let our pitchers get settled into the warm days of summer and see if they get into a rhythm of consistency.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jun 6, 2018 8:50:09 GMT -5
Took in the game last night, my first of the year. Kluber didn't quite have his best stuff, but still managed to go 7 innings with only 1 run allowed on 7 hits. The bats were pretty lively, but a lot of at 'em balls and hits robbed by the shift limited the production to 3 runs, which was enough. Late in the game the midges came out in force and it almost looked like it was snowing if you looked up, though I didn't get bothered by them much myself.
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Post by DrTorch on Jun 6, 2018 9:16:21 GMT -5
The problem with the bullpen isn't anyone's fault, it is what it is. We lose Smith and Shaw and Miller has been hurt. He has also super-outperformed the last 2-4 years and was due to have "one of those years". Mickey Callaway, for comparison's sake, hasn't exactly knocked the ball out of the park with the Met's pitching staff.
We had some good dudes, now they are gone or hurt. Or like Allen, maybe overexposed after years of success. We need to make a deal or suffer the consequences. I don't see a lot of internal help available.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Jun 6, 2018 9:20:29 GMT -5
Bullpens are the most volatile position group in all of baseball. It was bound to swing the wrong way eventually.
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Post by DrTorch on Jun 6, 2018 9:52:11 GMT -5
Totally.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 6, 2018 18:34:51 GMT -5
The problem with the bullpen isn't anyone's fault, it is what it is. We lose Smith and Shaw and Miller has been hurt. He has also super-outperformed the last 2-4 years and was due to have "one of those years". Mickey Callaway, for comparison's sake, hasn't exactly knocked the ball out of the park with the Met's pitching staff. We had some good dudes, now they are gone or hurt. Or like Allen, maybe overexposed after years of success. We need to make a deal or suffer the consequences. I don't see a lot of internal help available. Smith and Shaw are having terrible years without Callaway. Not related, but so are Santana and Bruce. All good decisions by the front office not to pay big money for all 4 of them. As I said, it was a process of 6 years working with Indian's pitchers to get the staff they had last year. A manager has a lot less to do with the performance of a pitching staff than the pitching coach. |
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Post by DrTorch on Jun 6, 2018 19:26:36 GMT -5
well the actual pitcher has a say in it to
i'm not a big fan of paying bullpen guys a ton of dough, but i am in favor of the Indians trading for some help woot
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 7, 2018 18:00:14 GMT -5
"Bull pen guys" we're the biggest winners in this past free agent market.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 15:57:46 GMT -5
Tribe doesn't really need that much hitting, but ABSOLUTELY needs much better relief pitching. If any trades are to be made, who would want Otero, Goody, McCallister? bighose wanted a right handed bad, he didn't realize they had signed Cabrera, a switch hitter. Better than a right handed bast. This didn’t age very well did it? |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 15, 2018 18:05:47 GMT -5
Aged like fine wine. The point was you were not aware of the signing. One must be well read to keep from making such gaffs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 18:13:24 GMT -5
Aged like fine wine. The point was you were not aware of the signing. One must be well read to keep from making such gaffs. Have you watched the movie “The Hangover?” |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 15, 2018 18:34:10 GMT -5
I see you are also not knowledgeable about fine wine
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 18:44:24 GMT -5
I see you are also not knowledgeable about fine wine I’ll take that as no |
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Post by quiz on Jun 17, 2018 5:23:13 GMT -5
Time to push the "panic button?" Although Francona would never admit to this. Tribe takes one step forward and then two steps back. Hitting in clutch is awful and bullpen continues to blow up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 8:39:53 GMT -5
Time to push the "panic button?" Although Francona would never admit to this. Tribe takes one step forward and then two steps back. Hitting in clutch is awful and bullpen continues to blow up. Hopefully Cookie is ok. Can’t afford to lose him with that crappy bullpen. For some reason the Twins have their number this year. Rosario and Dozier have been killing them. To answer your question though; there is still 93 games left in the season. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 20, 2018 16:11:08 GMT -5
I see you are also not knowledgeable about fine wine I’ll take that as no I take that as admitting ignorance about young people drinking themselves into oblivion. Their choice of alcohol is never a fine wine. Your movie isn't even worthy of watching on Netflix. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 7:33:50 GMT -5
I take that as admitting ignorance about young people drinking themselves into oblivion. Their choice of alcohol is never a fine wine. Your movie isn't even worthy of watching on Netflix. You must be the most boring person in the world |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 21, 2018 13:55:50 GMT -5
Says the most ignorant person in the world. AGAIN, young people DO NOT chug down fine wine for an alcohol buzz. You can buy 2 twelve packs of beer for about the minimum price of one 750 ml bottle of a fine wine.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 14:37:00 GMT -5
Says the most ignorant person in the world. AGAIN, young people DO NOT chug down fine wine for an alcohol buzz. You can buy 2 twelve packs of beer for about the minimum price of one 750 ml bottle of a fine wine. What the hell does that have to do if you watched the movie The Hangover? Also if a “moderator” can answer this question for me. Why is this person allowed to call me ignorant time after time? |
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 21, 2018 16:35:41 GMT -5
Is Andrew Miller going to be back against the Tigers this weekend?
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