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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 12:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by galion on Jun 27, 2018 12:48:45 GMT -5
I know a couple people within the Tygers that wanted to see the OC gone. Yeah, I guess an offense that had a QB break all the passing records and then a RB that broke all the rushing records and avg 34 points a game should be gotten rid of.  He is coaching WRs and safeties at Lex. That's what's supposed to happen when you have D1 caliber athletes at those positions. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 27, 2018 20:57:34 GMT -5
Only the father of Senior's QB the past 2 years thought his son was a "DI caliber athlete". He's very disappointed his son is at a Div3 college.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 27, 2018 21:00:36 GMT -5
It will be interesting at Senior as the OC and DC are both gone. The WR coach is also gone. Major shakeup in coaching staff. OC lasted 2 days before being hired by Lexington. DC is still on Admin leave and isn't permitted near anything. Very interesting. Don't ask me why because I don't know. Make the father of the transfer QB a coach. He played in college and coached at Ontario. |
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Post by Ramsfan09 on Jun 27, 2018 23:36:20 GMT -5
How good of a Qb is the Ontario Transfer? Other then the huge linemen and the grose kid who returns for senior?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 15:39:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess an offense that had a QB break all the passing records and then a RB that broke all the rushing records and avg 34 points a game should be gotten rid of. He is coaching WRs and safeties at Lex. That's what's supposed to happen when you have D1 caliber athletes at those positions. The D1 QB is in his senior season at Toledo but I do not think he has played yet. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 28, 2018 21:19:14 GMT -5
How good of a Qb is the Ontario Transfer? Other then the huge linemen and the grose kid who returns for senior? Took over the starting QB job half way through his Freshman year. As a Sophomore he played in only 3 league games before breaking his ankle and still was voted 2nd Team All league. He had 13 TD passes and only 3 INTs in half a season, before his injury, on a below average team. 6-2 175, doesn't have great speed, but real good at running the read option. Lettered in basketball as a Freshman PG. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 7:25:43 GMT -5
How good of a Qb is the Ontario Transfer? Other then the huge linemen and the grose kid who returns for senior? He is a good athlete with a improving skills that makes good decisions. Placing him in a good program surrounded by athletes who can make plays will only make him better. |
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jun 30, 2018 13:35:13 GMT -5
DFA, please stop. You coached 5th and 6th grade football at Norwalk, where the coach doesn't turn anybody away. And it's a youth camp, with the varsity players running the stations. They aren't installing anything. At the rate football numbers are dropping, most varsity programs aren’t turning anybody away. Don’t know what district you live in, but my son’s 5th grade class had about 50 kids. That dwindled down to around 10 by his Jr. year, and the sophomore class at 5 or 6 kids. |
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Post by deathfromabove on Jul 2, 2018 10:49:15 GMT -5
DFA, please stop. You coached 5th and 6th grade football at Norwalk, where the coach doesn't turn anybody away. And it's a youth camp, with the varsity players running the stations. They aren't installing anything. At the rate football numbers are dropping, most varsity programs aren’t turning anybody away. Don’t know what district you live in, but my son’s 5th grade class had about 50 kids. That dwindled down to around 10 by his Jr. year, and the sophomore class at 5 or 6 kids. Let's try this again. I was just about finish with the last one and she disappear on me. Anyway, I live in Norwalk and we usually have about 50 kids come out for 5th grade football after that they do slowly drop out and when they reach their senior year there is usually 13 - 20 kids still playing. For the 8 - 10 years we been really lucky at keeping the numbers high for football. I admit that it does happen even to us but I know we don't turn anybody away and I really don't know any high school in Ohio turns anybody away, both public and private. To me I think that defeats the purpose of always teaching the kids and I think football and all other sports is a tool to teaching. What school district do you live in if I may ask.  |
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 2, 2018 11:44:06 GMT -5
At the rate football numbers are dropping, most varsity programs aren’t turning anybody away. Don’t know what district you live in, but my son’s 5th grade class had about 50 kids. That dwindled down to around 10 by his Jr. year, and the sophomore class at 5 or 6 kids. Let's try this again. I was just about finish with the last one and she disappear on me. Anyway, I live in Norwalk and we usually have about 50 kids come out for 5th grade football after that they do slowly drop out and when they reach their senior year there is usually 13 - 20 kids still playing. For the 8 - 10 years we been really lucky at keeping the numbers high for football. I admit that it does happen even to us but I know we don't turn anybody away and I really don't know any high school in Ohio turns anybody away, both public and private. To me I think that defeats the purpose of always teaching the kids and I think football and all other sports is a tool to teaching. What school district do you live in if I may ask. I live in Perkins school district, but my children will be going to a different school in the fall. I coached 5th and 6th for Perkins in 2012&2013, so I believe we have met. I know the chances of keeping 50 kids from fifth grade all the way through high school is slim to none, but keeping 20 would be nice. D-4 Bellevue had 80 kids on their roster last year and 88 in 2016, I would love to see that at every school. I agree that no one should be turning kids away, but most area programs are seeing a numbers decline. I know it usually fluctuates and eventually rebounds, but it just doesn’t seem to be rebounding in some schools. It’s probably a combination of many things, just wish more kids would see the benefit of playing versus sitting on their rears. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 2, 2018 12:45:19 GMT -5
The same thing happens in basketball, baseball and soccer. The kids eventually "cut" themselves. How many young kids think they'll be playing a Pro sport when they grow up? The older they get the more realistic they become and see it's not likely they'll even be a starter in high school. It used to be that kids would stick it out to get a letter for being a Senior on the team and be a part of a "TEAM". Those kids are a rarity these days.
This summer in Ontario they have 185 kids in their youth soccer program. 90% of them won't go out when they're in high school.
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Post by deathfromabove on Jul 3, 2018 12:28:10 GMT -5
Let's try this again. I was just about finish with the last one and she disappear on me. Anyway, I live in Norwalk and we usually have about 50 kids come out for 5th grade football after that they do slowly drop out and when they reach their senior year there is usually 13 - 20 kids still playing. For the 8 - 10 years we been really lucky at keeping the numbers high for football. I admit that it does happen even to us but I know we don't turn anybody away and I really don't know any high school in Ohio turns anybody away, both public and private. To me I think that defeats the purpose of always teaching the kids and I think football and all other sports is a tool to teaching. What school district do you live in if I may ask. I live in Perkins school district, but my children will be going to a different school in the fall. I coached 5th and 6th for Perkins in 2012&2013, so I believe we have met. I know the chances of keeping 50 kids from fifth grade all the way through high school is slim to none, but keeping 20 would be nice. D-4 Bellevue had 80 kids on their roster last year and 88 in 2016, I would love to see that at every school. I agree that no one should be turning kids away, but most area programs are seeing a numbers decline. I know it usually fluctuates and eventually rebounds, but it just doesn’t seem to be rebounding in some schools. It’s probably a combination of many things, just wish more kids would see the benefit of playing versus sitting on their rears. Heavy, you sure have that right. I have seen where a school that had a very successful program then the coach either leaves for another school or retires the program starts to decline and the kids stop going out for football. But sometimes when they get a coach that starts winning the program picks up. Monroeville is a good example. Perkins is another school that had a lot of kids on the team when they was winning but now I'm mot sure on this but it looks like only half of what they used to be. I know that my boys when they went out for anything they stayed with it till they graduate. I know they got a lot out of it for sticking it out because it was showing them about commitment. Maybe parents are not teaching their kids the values of commitment these days and it's ashamed they don't. Maybe we have meant and never realize it at the time. Are you gonna send your kids to St. Mary's or Huron. Either one are very good schools.  |
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Post by heavydrop7 on Jul 3, 2018 12:56:11 GMT -5
I live in Perkins school district, but my children will be going to a different school in the fall. I coached 5th and 6th for Perkins in 2012&2013, so I believe we have met. I know the chances of keeping 50 kids from fifth grade all the way through high school is slim to none, but keeping 20 would be nice. D-4 Bellevue had 80 kids on their roster last year and 88 in 2016, I would love to see that at every school. I agree that no one should be turning kids away, but most area programs are seeing a numbers decline. I know it usually fluctuates and eventually rebounds, but it just doesn’t seem to be rebounding in some schools. It’s probably a combination of many things, just wish more kids would see the benefit of playing versus sitting on their rears. Heavy, you sure have that right. I have seen where a school that had a very successful program then the coach either leaves for another school or retires the program starts to decline and the kids stop going out for football. But sometimes when they get a coach that starts winning the program picks up. Monroeville is a good example. Perkins is another school that had a lot of kids on the team when they was winning but now I'm mot sure on this but it looks like only half of what they used to be. I know that my boys when they went out for anything they stayed with it till they graduate. I know they got a lot out of it for sticking it out because it was showing them about commitment. Maybe parents are not teaching their kids the values of commitment these days and it's ashamed they don't. Maybe we have meant and never realize it at the time. Are you gonna send your kids to St. Mary's or Huron. Either one are very good schools. I remember playing for Ringholz, and my sophomore year we had close to 60 kids. Mind you that was almost half of the male student body 9-12. I’m still waiting to see a Danbury team with 40+ kids now that Quiz is “helping out.” I’ll private message you on your last question. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 22:28:21 GMT -5
Unless Wooster or Ashland can come up with some magic this season it may be a run away by Mansfield. Although all it would take is a goodnight by someone and an off night for Mansfield to upset the cart.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 15:02:23 GMT -5
I hope she gets 100% of what she deserves. |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jul 6, 2018 21:55:25 GMT -5
Agreed. No excuse for stealing. Mansfield City Schools having a rough time.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 6, 2018 23:52:12 GMT -5
How in the heck can she still be the AD?? She should never been given the job in the first place. I wonder how many $20 bills she took out of till at every sporting event she was responsible for? There is no way to track that money unless you get greedy and try to take to many at any one time.
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Post by malabar10 on Jul 7, 2018 13:27:29 GMT -5
How in the heck can she still be the AD?? She should never been given the job in the first place. I wonder how many $20 bills she took out of till at every sporting event she was responsible for? There is no way to track that money unless you get greedy and try to take to many at any one time. Exactly!! She counted the money by herself, in her office, with the door closed!! Why why why? no accounting except for deposit slips to athletic accounts. She is still employed as AD because they are bound by contract and innocent until proven guilty. RIGHT!!! |
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Post by ohioraised on Jul 7, 2018 15:49:15 GMT -5
How in the heck can she still be the AD?? She should never been given the job in the first place. I wonder how many $20 bills she took out of till at every sporting event she was responsible for? There is no way to track that money unless you get greedy and try to take to many at any one time. Exactly!! She counted the money by herself, in her office, with the door closed!! Why why why? no accounting except for deposit slips to athletic accounts. She is still employed as AD because they are bound by contract and innocent until proven guilty. RIGHT!!! Sometimes these teacher's unions do not use common sense. Her fellow teachers are the ones who reported her for stealing. How about leave without pay? If I was her and I was truly guilty and knew I was going to be found guilty, why would I stop stealing while I was still working. |
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Post by galion on Jul 7, 2018 18:14:37 GMT -5
The ad position is an administrative position so the teacher’s union has nothing to do with it.
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Post by ohioraised on Jul 7, 2018 18:20:30 GMT -5
The ad position is an administrative position so the teacher’s union has nothing to do with it. Wrong! The AD position at Mansfield is a supplemental position held by a teacher. The union has every thing to do with it and is the only reason she had the job to begin with. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 8, 2018 0:38:07 GMT -5
Just another stupid move by Mansfield Senior. Making the AD job a supplemental position.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 8:05:56 GMT -5
The ad position is an administrative position so the teacher’s union has nothing to do with it. Wrong! The AD position at Mansfield is a supplemental position held by a teacher. The union has every thing to do with it and is the only reason she had the job to begin with. The teacher's union made this contract a mandatory position for an inside teacher with wording that if multiple inside applicants applied, one of them HAS to be qualified ENOUGH to hold the position. Not that they are qualified, but that they are qualified enough. This is how a criminal with no qualifications for an AD position can get the job. I have also been told that she was trying to get a high position in education and some felt giving her this job would be a stepping stone to that higher position. If she was already stealing from her fellow teachers checkbook imagine what she could have done as a principal. |
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Post by malabar10 on Jul 8, 2018 8:27:39 GMT -5
Just another stupid move by Mansfield Senior. Making the AD job a supplemental position. The AD position is a licensed teaching position. It is not just a supplemental position. The AD receives a 20% supplemental stipend in addition to their teaching contract based on years of service. The Board would like to make this an admin position but hasn't succeeded in doing so. This might be the time it happens. Of course, we don't have any admin that are qualified either. |
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Post by galion on Jul 8, 2018 10:58:55 GMT -5
I wonder why a district the size of Sr. ever decided to go that route. Is it common? In Galion it's an admin position.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 15:56:28 GMT -5
Most AD jobs years ago were a part time position that was filled by an assistant principal. Over time as districts have separated those duties each school has done it in different ways. That may have been how this came in affect.
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Post by Ramsfan09 on Jul 9, 2018 19:25:28 GMT -5
Can we talk about football already? No one cares about Mansfield’s AD and their scandals. This is the 2018 OCC Football forum not the AD Forum.
Does Mansfield have any good athletes at the skilled positions other then Gross?
I really don’t think the new coach at Madison is going to get the program going. He really doesn’t have a winning track record. I can’t believe they didn’t have a better candidate then him. I mean he was just let go by Elyria Catholic.
What does Ashland have this year? I feel like they lose everything from last years team.
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Post by Danny clay on Jul 9, 2018 21:56:37 GMT -5
Wrong! The AD position at Mansfield is a supplemental position held by a teacher. The union has every thing to do with it and is the only reason she had the job to begin with. The teacher's union made this contract a mandatory position for an inside teacher with wording that if multiple inside applicants applied, one of them HAS to be qualified ENOUGH to hold the position. Not that they are qualified, but that they are qualified enough. This is how a criminal with no qualifications for an AD position can get the job. I have also been told that she was trying to get a high position in education and some felt giving her this job would be a stepping stone to that higher position. If she was already stealing from her fellow teachers checkbook imagine what she could have done as a principal. Any teaching contract is barganined by the BOE and the teacher union. Thus, this is not made mandatory by the union..... |
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