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Post by Big Lex Fan on Nov 6, 2018 10:40:31 GMT -5
Just heard that the members of the OCC will vote in December before the holidays to whether or not bring in Dover, New Philadelphia, and Canton Central Catholic. Is this valid? Does this have a chance to come to fruition?
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 6, 2018 16:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by shadowking on Nov 6, 2018 17:39:47 GMT -5
Those are all solid schools but the travel....
Also would that put an end to the thought of luring Ashland Madison and Sr to the SBC?
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 6, 2018 19:32:32 GMT -5
Just heard that the members of the OCC will vote in December before the holidays to whether or not bring in Dover, New Philadelphia, and Canton Central Catholic. Is this valid? Does this have a chance to come to fruition? smells like old Cardinal Conference. |
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 6, 2018 19:34:30 GMT -5
Those are all solid schools but the travel.... Also would that put an end to the thought of luring Ashland Madison and Sr to the SBC? I know Ashland to New Philly is 55 miles; really not much different than travel in your TRAC for some schools |
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Post by shadowking on Nov 6, 2018 20:04:29 GMT -5
Huge difference when you can hop on the pike/I75 and go 80. SR 250 has to be the worst highway in Ohio for truck traffic. And Canton CC sits on the busiest road in Canton. Far worse than anything Toledo has to offer.
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 7, 2018 20:47:46 GMT -5
Those are all solid schools but the travel.... Also would that put an end to the thought of luring Ashland Madison and Sr to the SBC? I actually think it would spark this conversation once again. No way Madison and Lex want this. Ashland maybe. |
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Post by galion on Nov 7, 2018 20:54:53 GMT -5
Mt. Vernon won't be a fan either.
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Post by dude on Nov 7, 2018 21:04:17 GMT -5
Mt. Vernon won't be a fan either. Mt Vernon is supporting the expansion. |
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 7, 2018 21:42:57 GMT -5
Mt. Vernon won't be a fan either. Mt Vernon is supporting the expansion. They support it similarly to Shelby supporting the SBC move. It's in the best interest of the conference but not them and then when a better opportunity arises, they'll be gone. Which is "ok" because the conference will be more stable with the addition of these schools. MV knows they aren't a long-term member of the Mansfield-Area OCC. It's noble. |
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Post by dude on Nov 7, 2018 21:59:09 GMT -5
If it were the "Mansfield-Area OCC, they would not be looking at Dover, Philly and CCC. I doubt the those three consider themselves part of the Mansfield area.
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 8, 2018 17:35:01 GMT -5
If it were the "Mansfield-Area OCC, they would not be looking at Dover, Philly and CCC. I doubt the those three consider themselves part of the Mansfield area. Mansfield-Area OCC was used to delineate between that conference and the Columbus-Area OCC. Didn't want "OCC" to be misinterpreted since MV has been rumored to that OCC as well. |
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Post by dude on Nov 8, 2018 21:15:26 GMT -5
If it were the "Mansfield-Area OCC, they would not be looking at Dover, Philly and CCC. I doubt the those three consider themselves part of the Mansfield area. Mansfield-Area OCC was used to delineate between that conference and the Columbus-Area OCC. Didn't want "OCC" to be misinterpreted since MV has been rumored to that OCC as well. Mt Vernon has been told they would not get back into the Columbus league. Not that they looked into it, but a league official has said it would never happen. Bridges burnt. |
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 10, 2018 8:22:40 GMT -5
So would this be a divisional setup?
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Nov 10, 2018 10:14:26 GMT -5
So would this be a divisional setup? Yes, that's what I have heard. I imagine it would look something like this... East Wooster Canton Central Catholic Ashland Dover New Philadelphia West Mansfield Sr. Lexington Madison Mt. Vernon West Holmes Also seen on another forum that West Holmes is on board with adding the other schools but doesn't want to be in the same division as Dover and New Philadelphia. |
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Post by galion on Nov 10, 2018 11:41:37 GMT -5
Does this have to be unanimous because if it does this is not going to happen
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 10, 2018 14:50:01 GMT -5
So would this be a divisional setup? Yes, that's what I have heard. I imagine it would look something like this... East Wooster Canton Central Catholic Ashland Dover New Philadelphia West Mansfield Sr. Lexington Madison Mt. Vernon West Holmes Also seen on another forum that West Holmes is on board with adding the other schools but doesn't want to be in the same division as Dover and New Philadelphia. <iframe width="24.960000000000036" height="10.28000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 24.960000000000036px; height: 10.28000000000003px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_11987724" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.960000000000036" height="10.28000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 24.96px; height: 10.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1187px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_94834614" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.960000000000036" height="10.28000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 24.96px; height: 10.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 447px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_48082609" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.960000000000036" height="10.28000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 24.96px; height: 10.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1187px; top: 447px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_24824026" scrolling="no"></iframe> |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 10, 2018 14:51:42 GMT -5
So would this be a divisional setup? Yes, that's what I have heard. I imagine it would look something like this... East Wooster Canton Central Catholic Ashland Dover New Philadelphia West Mansfield Sr. Lexington Madison Mt. Vernon West Holmes Also seen on another forum that West Holmes is on board with adding the other schools but doesn't want to be in the same division as Dover and New Philadelphia. 3 required cross over games? |
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Post by dude on Nov 11, 2018 11:20:27 GMT -5
Does this have to be unanimous because if it does this is not going to happen Most leagues have something in them saying that a move like this requires a 75% vote. I have seen the rules of some local leagues and that is common wording. |
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Post by dude on Nov 11, 2018 11:24:59 GMT -5
So would this be a divisional setup? Also seen on another forum that West Holmes is on board with adding the other schools but doesn't want to be in the same division as Dover and New Philadelphia. West Holmes would currently struggle to compete with the new schools in all sports. Being in the other division would limit how often they would play them and in what sports. |
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Post by malabar10 on Nov 11, 2018 19:11:08 GMT -5
Need 6 of 7 votes to approve. Different scenarios for football with 1 yearly crossover game for 4 years and 2 teams for 2 years. In basketball, home and home with division and 1 game with other division. Other sports similar set-up.
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Post by dude on Nov 11, 2018 21:13:39 GMT -5
When is the vote?
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 12, 2018 16:57:26 GMT -5
Need 6 of 7 votes to approve. Different scenarios for football with 1 yearly crossover game for 4 years and 2 teams for 2 years. In basketball, home and home with division and 1 game with other division. Other sports similar set-up. Malabar - do you think they can get six votes to approve this? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 8:00:10 GMT -5
I would recommend not to go divisions. Do what the MAC does. Play 8 conference games. The team you don’t play is based on the previous seasons standings. 1st doesn’t play 10, 2 doesn’t play 9, ect. In all other sports either go double round robin or single round robin
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Post by dude on Nov 13, 2018 8:33:50 GMT -5
10 Schools works for the WBL without divisions.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Nov 13, 2018 9:35:17 GMT -5
I can only speak for basketball, but the WBL can handle a schedule with 9 league games and 13 non-league games because of the wealth of local talent surrounding them at the D3 and D4 levels. As far as the Mansfield area schools goes, playing N10 and Fireland Conference schools varies considerably from MAC and Northwest Conference schools (Convoy Crestview, Spencerville, Delphos Jefferson, Lincolnview). The SBC and MOAC should serve as decent local scheduling, I'm sure. I have no idea what the eastern group of schools would do. Probably the exact same as they have been doing.
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Post by malabar10 on Nov 13, 2018 10:23:04 GMT -5
In reply, I think as long as there are divisions, the league will get 6 votes. Senior will vote in favor of, but wild cards are Lex and Madison.
West Holmes would be a no if there were no divisions. God, how I miss road trips to Coshocton!! (;
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Post by dude on Nov 13, 2018 13:36:44 GMT -5
In reply, I think as long as there are divisions, the league will get 6 votes. Senior will vote in favor of, but wild cards are Lex and Madison. West Holmes would be a no if there were no divisions. God, how I miss road trips to Coshocton!! (; It sounds like your wild cards may not be that wild. One AD has said he is for the move and the other does not see any advantage to it. Loved those long trips but the problem is they don't pay the bills anymore. |
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Post by galion on Nov 13, 2018 22:40:04 GMT -5
In reply, I think as long as there are divisions, the league will get 6 votes. Senior will vote in favor of, but wild cards are Lex and Madison. West Holmes would be a no if there were no divisions. God, how I miss road trips to Coshocton!! (; There's already 1 no vote that I know of and it's not one of the schools that you mentioned as wildcards. |
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Post by dude on Nov 13, 2018 23:39:32 GMT -5
In reply, I think as long as there are divisions, the league will get 6 votes. Senior will vote in favor of, but wild cards are Lex and Madison. West Holmes would be a no if there were no divisions. God, how I miss road trips to Coshocton!! (; There's already 1 no vote that I know of and it's not one of the schools that you mentioned as wildcards. At a previous meeting when this idea was introduced, 6 of the 7 current schools were in favor of the idea. Maybe after some thought and detailed discussion more schools feel this is not a good move. |
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