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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 8:38:35 GMT -5
Is there any way that just CCC could come in?
Sounds like Dover and New Phil are a package deal and rightfully so
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Nov 14, 2018 9:02:31 GMT -5
To me it looks like Ashland has a lot to lose in this whole setup. They have made football playoffs in 10 of the 16 seasons of the OCC. Plenty of reasonable drive times on top of that. If the OCC goes to divisional setups than Ashland is screwed. I know they have a history with Dover in football to some degree, but I'd find it hard to swallow trading off reasonable playoff hopes and guaranteed drives to Mansfield area schools versus hiking it all the way to Canton and Dover/New Philly. I understand that Ashland may push ahead with this change as a defensive measure to ensure it HAS a league affiliation, but it isn't the best of situations.
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Post by dude on Nov 14, 2018 10:46:29 GMT -5
As of last night there are 4 of the 7 schools that are not in favor of this expansion. And all are on the west side.
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Post by averagejoe on Nov 14, 2018 13:05:11 GMT -5
In reply, I think as long as there are divisions, the league will get 6 votes. Senior will vote in favor of, but wild cards are Lex and Madison. West Holmes would be a no if there were no divisions. God, how I miss road trips to Coshocton!! (; Sr is not a yes vote. |
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Post by dude on Nov 15, 2018 12:41:06 GMT -5
Sounds like Mansfield, Madison, Lexington and Mount Vernon are all no votes at this time.
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 15, 2018 12:51:07 GMT -5
Ashland, Lex, Madison, and Sr; if I said it once, I said it a million times......just arrive to the SBC
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Post by dude on Nov 15, 2018 13:18:57 GMT -5
Ashland, Lex, Madison, and Sr; if I said it once, I said it a million times......just arrive to the SBC Not all the SBC schools like the SBC so I doubt those that have options will go running in that direction. |
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Post by unc4life on Nov 15, 2018 14:12:19 GMT -5
Ashland wants away from the Mansfield schools more then ever. This would have been a way to keep the OCC together and still let Ashland go east. If this round of expansion dies..look for it to be the end of the OCC as we know it in the next 5 years.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Nov 15, 2018 14:20:45 GMT -5
What is Ashland's motivation to go east? I know Ashland has history with Dover and New Philly, but who else has been catching their eye?
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Nov 15, 2018 15:40:57 GMT -5
Why does Ashland want away from the Mansfield area schools. They now have a long healthy rivalry with Lexington. I have always heard that Madison was there biggest rival. Mansfield has played Ashland in most sports for the better part of 100 years.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 15, 2018 19:51:40 GMT -5
Sounds like Mansfield, Madison, Lexington and Mount Vernon are all no votes at this time. WHAT?? Lex a no vote. I was sure Dude was all but guaranteeing they'd be a yes. |
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 15, 2018 19:55:18 GMT -5
Ashland, Lex, Madison, and Sr; if I said it once, I said it a million times......just arrive to the SBC Not all the SBC schools like the SBC so I doubt those that have options will go running in that direction. I can only dream, haha |
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Post by dude on Nov 15, 2018 21:27:55 GMT -5
Ashland wants away from the Mansfield schools more then ever. This would have been a way to keep the OCC together and still let Ashland go east. If this round of expansion dies..look for it to be the end of the OCC as we know it in the next 5 years. Keep leaving the fruit for them and you will get your wish.  |
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Post by downtown_4_3 on Nov 15, 2018 22:01:11 GMT -5
I've heard this rumor - Lexington has interest in the MOAC. Any validity to this dude?
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Post by dude on Nov 15, 2018 22:25:09 GMT -5
Maybe but the MOAC would never invite them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 8:09:02 GMT -5
Maybe but the MOAC would never invite them. Why not? |
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Post by dude on Nov 16, 2018 8:28:29 GMT -5
Maybe but the MOAC would never invite them. Why not? Some of the schools in the MOAC have the idea that they are a small rural school district and that Lexington, because of the competition they play and the success, they see them as a much larger school. Pleasant is the smallest but they compete with larger schools in almost every sport and do very well. I have said it before and the ideal set up with Lex in the MOAC is the location. Everyone would be around a 30 minute drive or less. And that would be great for fan support. |
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Post by ohioraised on Nov 16, 2018 12:51:34 GMT -5
Clear Fork would love to see Lex join the MOAC. Easy drive for our students. Great crowds in almost everything when we were in a league with them. We had good town rivalries based on history.
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Post by winonesoon on Nov 16, 2018 13:27:51 GMT -5
Lex In the MOAC. Make for a great fit with Clear Fork & Shelby & Galion All these school are about on same level. And Pleasant & River Valley. I think It no brainer.
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Post by dude on Nov 16, 2018 13:46:55 GMT -5
Galion, Pleasant and River Valley are 3 schools that I feel would never invite Lex.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Nov 16, 2018 14:36:09 GMT -5
Lexington would probably love to be in a league that included Clear Fork, Shelby, Ontario, and Galion but I think as been stated Galion, Pleasant, River Valley and Ontario wouldn't want them. Not to mention the fact that Lex considers perceives themselves as a bigger school. Meaning they enjoy competing with larger schools. I think other than football Lex would dominate in most sports, most years. No disrespect to the other MOAC schools.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 16, 2018 20:15:50 GMT -5
Maybe but the MOAC would never invite them. Why not? Must a school be invited, or does a school apply for admission? |
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Post by dude on Nov 16, 2018 22:07:46 GMT -5
Lexington would probably love to be in a league that included Clear Fork, Shelby, Ontario, and Galion but I think as been stated Galion, Pleasant, River Valley and Ontario wouldn't want them. Not to mention the fact that Lex considers perceives themselves as a bigger school. Meaning they enjoy competing with larger schools. I think other than football Lex would dominate in most sports, most years. No disrespect to the other MOAC schools. Lexington could be a good addition to the MOAC when Buckeye leaves. They have good history with Ontario, Galion, Clear Fork and Shelby. They have some history with Harding from the OHC and would do well as a close opponent to River Valley and Pleasant. But I will predict that they do not get invited to join. Lex does enjoy playing larger schools and over time it has paid off in the improvement of their programs. |
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 17, 2018 6:15:43 GMT -5
Lex has formally applied to be considered for the MOAC but they couldn't get the support they needed from enough schools to move it forward. I don't see it happening. I think it's more likely Fremont joins the SBC than Lex to the MOAC.
What are the other options for Lex? SBC? Madison put a serious ding in the SBC's interest in any OCC schools when they pulled their stunt last school year.
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Post by dude on Nov 17, 2018 8:34:55 GMT -5
Can't see Lex voluntarily going after and SBC spot. The SBC is not making everyone happy right now so they would not look to go to a bad place.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 18, 2018 10:53:20 GMT -5
Madison put a serious ding in the SBC's interest in any OCC schools when they pulled their stunt last school year. What was it they did again? I remember there being talk of Madison to the SBC but am fuzzy on the details of what happened with that. |
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Post by dude on Nov 18, 2018 12:36:00 GMT -5
Madison put a serious ding in the SBC's interest in any OCC schools when they pulled their stunt last school year. What was it they did again? I remember there being talk of Madison to the SBC but am fuzzy on the details of what happened with that. They asked about joining the SBC. The SBC had interest and sent them an invite. Madison turned it down. |
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Post by A no.1 on Nov 18, 2018 17:36:40 GMT -5
Lexington could be a good addition to the MOAC when Buckeye leaves. They have good history with Ontario, Galion, Clear Fork and Shelby. They have some history with Harding from the OHC and would do well as a close opponent to River Valley and Pleasant. But I will predict that they do not get invited to join. Lex does enjoy playing larger schools and over time it has paid off in the improvement of their programs. It would be a damn shame if Lexington is denied entry to the MOAC. Who else are they waiting for that fits better geographically and size? Highland? Upper Sandusky? Those two schools aren't leaving their conferences unless they're booted for being too large. |
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 18, 2018 21:19:28 GMT -5
Lexington could be a good addition to the MOAC when Buckeye leaves. They have good history with Ontario, Galion, Clear Fork and Shelby. They have some history with Harding from the OHC and would do well as a close opponent to River Valley and Pleasant. But I will predict that they do not get invited to join. Lex does enjoy playing larger schools and over time it has paid off in the improvement of their programs. It would be a damn shame if Lexington is denied entry to the MOAC. Who else are they waiting for that fits better geographically and size? Highland? Upper Sandusky? Those two schools aren't leaving their conferences unless they're booted for being too large. Already happened. Lex sent letter to MOAC and couldn't get enough support from those schools to move the process forward. MOAC ain't happening for Lex. |
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Post by dude on Nov 18, 2018 22:04:03 GMT -5
Lexington could be a good addition to the MOAC when Buckeye leaves. They have good history with Ontario, Galion, Clear Fork and Shelby. They have some history with Harding from the OHC and would do well as a close opponent to River Valley and Pleasant. But I will predict that they do not get invited to join. Lex does enjoy playing larger schools and over time it has paid off in the improvement of their programs. It would be a damn shame if Lexington is denied entry to the MOAC. Who else are they waiting for that fits better geographically and size? Highland? Upper Sandusky? Those two schools aren't leaving their conferences unless they're booted for being too large. It is a shame. The 7 remaining schools voted 4-3 not to invite them to the MOAC. Their plan is to HOPE that Highland gets to big for the KMAC and gets kicked out. |
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