TRAC 2019

[maplecityjake]

Thoughts? Same as usual with Central-Whitmer then all the rest, or is there a surprise team like SJJ-Findlay?

[Keith]

The latest enrollment numbers are out, and here where TRAC schools stand

1. Toledo Whitmer 842 DI
2. Findlay 612 DI
3. Toledo St. Francis 576 DII
4. Toledo St. Johns 466 DII
5. Fremont Ross 455 DII
6. Oregon Clay 453 DII
7. Lima Senior 430 DII
8. Toledo Central Catholic 414 DII

[Green Falcon]

Perrysburg is up to 672...

[Green Falcon]

The D2 range in enrollment is so large. Over 100 student difference

[kingmartinez]

How does Fremont feel about being in a league with a school as large as Whitmer?

[Green Falcon]

Jun 5, 2019 13:31:26 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

How does Fremont feel about being in a league with a school as large as Whitmer?

They want in the SBC

[Green Falcon]

Jun 5, 2019 10:45:46 GMT -5 Keith said:

The latest enrollment numbers are out, and here where TRAC schools stand

1. Toledo Whitmer 842 DI
2. Findlay 612 DI
3. Toledo St. Francis 576 DII
4. Toledo St. Johns 466 DII
5. Fremont Ross 455 DII
6. Oregon Clay 453 DII
7. Lima Senior 430 DII
8. Toledo Central Catholic 414 DII

NLL Comparison

Perrysburg 672 DI
Anthony Wayne 544 DII
Sylvania Northview 520 DII
Springfield 452 DII
Sylvania Southview 378 DII
Bowling Green 364 DIII
Maumee 285 DIII
Napoleon 252 DIV

Other large school in NWO

Toledo Bowsher 592 DI
Toledo Start 692 DI
Toledo Waite 481 DII

[maplecityjake]

Jun 5, 2019 13:31:26 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

How does Fremont feel about being in a league with a school as large as Whitmer?

To be fair, there's always been a significant gap between those two, and it wasn't until late 80s when Whitmer had the stones to play Ross despite this.

[maplecityjake]

The way the city of Findlay has grown, I'm surprised it's become a small Division I school, and now 4th in NW Ohio. I'm going to guess some of Liberty-Benton school district extends into City limits?

[Keith]

According to census bureau estimates, Findlay's population has been nearly stagnant since 2010.

[Green Falcon]

Jun 5, 2019 16:45:55 GMT -5 maplecityjake said:

The way the city of Findlay has grown, I'm surprised it's become a small Division I school, and now 4th in NW Ohio. I'm going to guess some of Liberty-Benton school district extends into City limits?

Not quite, it comes very close but it doesn't go into the city limits. It's not like Lima which has four different districts take students plus a private school.

[maplecityjake]

Jun 5, 2019 17:49:14 GMT -5 Green Falcon said:

Jun 5, 2019 16:45:55 GMT -5 maplecityjake said:

The way the city of Findlay has grown, I'm surprised it's become a small Division I school, and now 4th in NW Ohio. I'm going to guess some of Liberty-Benton school district extends into City limits?

Not quite, it comes very close but it doesn't go into the city limits. It's not like Lima which has four different districts take students plus a private school.

Lima sounds like Norwalk; Edison, Monroeville, and Western Reserve extend into City limits.

[kingmartinez]

I realize they want to be in the SBC...is it safe to say that means they don't want to be in a league with a school the size of Whitmer?

[maplecityjake]

Jun 5, 2019 19:14:16 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

I realize they want to be in the SBC...is it safe to say that means they don't want to be in a league with a school the size of Whitmer?

Heck, if this is to arrive to fruition, Ross may eventually not want to be in with schools the size of Bellevue/Clyde whom each have 200 less boys. Granted, I am speaking Football terms, only.

[kingmartinez]

Jun 5, 2019 20:01:33 GMT -5 maplecityjake said:

Jun 5, 2019 19:14:16 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

I realize they want to be in the SBC...is it safe to say that means they don't want to be in a league with a school the size of Whitmer?

Heck, if this is to arrive to fruition, Ross may eventually not want to be in with schools the size of Bellevue/Clyde whom each have 200 less boys. Granted, I am speaking Football terms, only.

That’s where I was headed...Whitmer and Fremont enrollment disparity (%) is very similar to Fremont’s in relation to Clyde, Bellevue, Perkins. 80% larger...ain’t happening.

They are about 35-40% larger than Sandusky, TC, Norwalk. That’s about the same as Findlay and Fremont’s difference.

[Green Falcon]

A Fremont for Perrysburg swap would be nice

[Keith]

Jun 5, 2019 13:31:26 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

How does Fremont feel about being in a league with a school as large as Whitmer?

It's nothing new for Ross.   

[kingmartinez]

Jun 5, 2019 21:59:06 GMT -5 Green Falcon said:

A Fremont for Perrysburg swap would be nice

I would venture that Clay is much more likely thank Fremont. 

[maplecityjake]

Jun 5, 2019 21:56:17 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

Jun 5, 2019 20:01:33 GMT -5 maplecityjake said:

Heck, if this is to arrive to fruition, Ross may eventually not want to be in with schools the size of Bellevue/Clyde whom each have 200 less boys. Granted, I am speaking Football terms, only.

That’s where I was headed...Whitmer and Fremont enrollment disparity (%) is very similar to Fremont’s in relation to Clyde, Bellevue, Perkins. 80% larger...ain’t happening.

They are about 35-40% larger than Sandusky, TC, Norwalk. That’s about the same as Findlay and Fremont’s difference.

Actually, I had a smart-aleck twist to it; I don't think it would be much better being in SBC Lake than TRAC. Pound-for-Pound, SBC Lake is more competitive.

[maplecityjake]

Jun 6, 2019 6:43:25 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

Jun 5, 2019 21:59:06 GMT -5 Green Falcon said:

A Fremont for Perrysburg swap would be nice

I would venture that Clay is much more likely thank Fremont. 

And probably reason Ross could be more interested in Lake than NLL; I think everyone concedes if there is a spot, Clay's the one.

[Green Falcon]

I just wonder how much longer Maumee and Napoleon can hang on in the NLL. Both are getting smaller

[maplecityjake]

Jun 6, 2019 12:26:21 GMT -5 Green Falcon said:

I just wonder how much longer Maumee and Napoleon can hang on in the NLL. Both are getting smaller

I think both would be good for NBC, but 2 spots have to open.

[maplecityjake]

After seeing some numbers, I think the Clyde-St. Francis matchup fascinates me more, granted Clyde has faced Start.

[maplecityjake]

Fwiw, Ross lost a Senior-to-be OL 5'11 270 to......Norwalk. Norwalk already with big OL gets bigger.

[kingmartinez]

Ha! Enter the portal. The trickle down continues.

[maplecityjake]

Jun 6, 2019 16:59:41 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

Ha! Enter the portal. The trickle down continues.

He's not the only.....3 others from local schools will now attend Norwalk. These aren't your mom and dad's Truckers, anymore.

[Willard Fillmore]

Jun 6, 2019 15:19:31 GMT -5 maplecityjake said:

Fwiw, Ross lost a Senior-to-be OL 5'11 270 to......Norwalk. Norwalk already with big OL gets bigger.

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I never get too excited about 5-10 300 linemen. 

[maplecityjake]

Jun 6, 2019 21:22:20 GMT -5 Willard Fillmore said:

Jun 6, 2019 15:19:31 GMT -5 maplecityjake said:

Fwiw, Ross lost a Senior-to-be OL 5'11 270 to......Norwalk. Norwalk already with big OL gets bigger.

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I never get too excited about 5-10 300 linemen. 

Normally, I would agree. However, he did start at Ross, and I believe Ross has a solid coaching staff. He figures vto start at Norwalk, and I believe Truckers have an outstanding staff. If it's good for both parties, whom am I to argue?

[kingmartinez]

Jun 6, 2019 21:42:16 GMT -5 maplecityjake said:

Jun 6, 2019 21:22:20 GMT -5 Willard Fillmore said:

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I never get too excited about 5-10 300 linemen. 

Normally, I would agree. However, he did start at Ross, and I believe Ross has a solid coaching staff. He figures vto start at Norwalk, and I believe Truckers have an outstanding staff. If it's good for both parties, whom am I to argue?

I think solid is a stretch. Their high school playing days has allowed them an extra buffer that is quickly deteriorating, IMO.

[maplecityjake]

Jun 7, 2019 10:08:20 GMT -5 kingmartinez said:

Jun 6, 2019 21:42:16 GMT -5 maplecityjake said:

Normally, I would agree. However, he did start at Ross, and I believe Ross has a solid coaching staff. He figures vto start at Norwalk, and I believe Truckers have an outstanding staff. If it's good for both parties, whom am I to argue?

I think solid is a stretch. Their high school playing days has allowed them an extra buffer that is quickly deteriorating, IMO.

So, you're telling me these great players who played under great coaches have lost their touch? For the record, the staff gets better as Coach Gibert of Mansfield Senior/Tiffin Columbian fame is on board.