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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 30, 2021 11:33:41 GMT -5
. These are individuals who sweat and bled for Clear Fork Football. However, they did not live up to Clear Fork football ideals in one form or another. It was not that they were good men, its that they were not Dave's men. once in southwest Ohio, and he punched down. He's the Ontario of NwEOh coaches. Somehow, he asks his coaches to break down film on sundays, and still can't break out past the second round. Until then, they'll set the record for just being choke artist-ists. What is "Ontario of NwEOh coaches"? |
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Post by runriot742 on Mar 30, 2021 13:22:13 GMT -5
. These are individuals who sweat and bled for Clear Fork Football. However, they did not live up to Clear Fork football ideals in one form or another. It was not that they were good men, its that they were not Dave's men. once in southwest Ohio, and he punched down. He's the Ontario of NwEOh coaches. Somehow, he asks his coaches to break down film on sundays, and still can't break out past the second round. Until then, they'll set the record for just being choke artist-ists. What is "Ontario of NwEOh coaches"? Sorry about that, I sacrificed clarity for the sake of brevity. It's not a knock on Ontario however, I just recall from when they were in the NCC and even at 9-1 they were a long shot to get into the playoffs. |
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Post by dude on Mar 30, 2021 14:42:00 GMT -5
Sorry about that, I sacrificed clarity for the sake of brevity. It's not a knock on Ontario however, I just recall from when they were in the NCC and even at 9-1 they were a long shot to get into the playoffs. Not quite the same as Ontario since they were in a league with smaller schools. At least Clear Fork joined a league with same size or bigger schools as they are. I do think you are correct in saying they can now have a 9-1 season in the MOAC and struggle in post season play. Had they stayed in the OCC they may have been closer to a 7-3 normal record but would have been battle tested. It has worked for Lucas play 6-7 of their games against larger schools. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 20:53:52 GMT -5
Aaron Cook just resigned the job at Pleasant. So job is open there. they are the smallest or one of the smallest schools in the league right? Might not be the best situation if you don't have talent. Also, is he up for any of the columbus area jobs or just done coaching for a while? would love to know what is going on down that way. He has done a fantastic job there |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 20:54:29 GMT -5
First off, it's absolutely true that Clear Fork is having trouble finding coaches. Second, it's also true that Carroll is still the head coach. He's still the head coach. He's somehow managed to run off many assistant coaches. Quite frankly, he's been less than nice to them. He's denigrated, insulted, and outright been mean to assistant coaches. He's had the opportunity for former head-coaches to come back to their hometown, but he's decided to become such a less than nice person, they've declined a job opportunity. Clear Fork, is having trouble finding coaches. Coaches have left. They are still teachers, however, they do not want to be part of the program. They want to see success, however, they just cannot take the mental abuse which Carroll implements. There is no reason that even his "brother" needs to leaves a practice wherein he was coaching the defense, and have such a berating which the other needs to step away. Many former traditional Clear Fork gridiron heroes want to be a part of the program. However, Dave, has continuously ignored, these former individuals. Instead, he's disallowed any individual with any football knowledge, to be silenced. I know former individuals, who want to be part of the alumni celebrations, however, even when they've reached out Dave they've been meant with silence. These are individuals who sweat and bled for Clear Fork Football. However, they did not live up to Clear Fork football ideals in one form or another. It was not that they were good men, its that they were not Dave's men. once in southwest Ohio, and he punched down. He's the Ontario of NwEOh coaches. Somehow, he asks his coaches to break down film on sundays, and still can't break out past the second round. Until then, they'll set the record for just being choke artist-ists. this is a heck of a post just to troll. Unless.... you are Dave haha |
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Post by dude on Mar 30, 2021 20:55:53 GMT -5
Aaron Cook just resigned the job at Pleasant. So job is open there. they are the smallest or one of the smallest schools in the league right? Might not be the best situation if you don't have talent. Also, is he up for any of the columbus area jobs or just done coaching for a while? would love to know what is going on down that way. He has done a fantastic job there I believe they are the smallest in the league. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 30, 2021 21:53:30 GMT -5
Sorry about that, I sacrificed clarity for the sake of brevity. It's not a knock on Ontario however, I just recall from when they were in the NCC and even at 9-1 they were a long shot to get into the playoffs. Not quite the same as Ontario since they were in a league with smaller schools. At least Clear Fork joined a league with same size or bigger schools as they are. I do think you are correct in saying they can now have a 9-1 season in the MOAC and struggle in post season play. Had they stayed in the OCC they may have been closer to a 7-3 normal record but would have been battle tested. It has worked for Lucas play 6-7 of their games against larger schools. When Orrville got out CF was smallest by far |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 30, 2021 22:00:05 GMT -5
Somehow, he asks his coaches to break down film on sundays, and still can't break out past the second round. Until then, they'll set the record for just being choke artist-ists. Poor babies...there was a time when coaches would camp out in the parking lot at All Prints until midnight waiting on game film to be processed, then stay up until 6:00AM breaking it down. Then Sundays they'd put together scouting reports so the players would have them Monday morning. |
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Post by ohioraised on Mar 31, 2021 6:38:59 GMT -5
Clear Fork was the smaller school in the OCC but most coaches didn't mind the challenges if it made them better. Going to the moac like Ontario going to the ncc did not help to extend our football season. It only increased our regular season wins.
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Post by dude on Mar 31, 2021 10:13:15 GMT -5
Clear Fork was the smaller school in the OCC but most coaches didn't mind the challenges if it made them better. Going to the moac like Ontario going to the ncc did not help to extend our football season. It only increased our regular season wins. The CF move from the OCC was driven by the football coach and his supporters. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 31, 2021 14:40:08 GMT -5
Clear Fork was the smaller school in the OCC but most coaches didn't mind the challenges if it made them better. Going to the moac like Ontario going to the ncc did not help to extend our football season. It only increased our regular season wins. When Ontario went to the NCC, it was that or be an independent, there were no other league options at the time. Making it a no brainer. ALL the NCC school wanted Ontario. When Ontario joined the NCC Bucyrus was larger than Ontario and Ontario was DIII as were all other schools except for BC. Over the next 25 years Ontario had people move into their district and they became a DII, the other Districts had people leave. Not Ontario's fault. SO the NCC kicked Ontario out, once again it was the NOL or be an independent. Ontario's short run in the NOL was successful in athletics, until the NOL imploded. If I remember correctly it was a similar scenario for CF, it was the OCC or be an independent. If the league a school is in does not help garner a lot Harbin Points, the solution is quite simple. An 8 school league means there are 3 non-league games. Schedule up and win those 3 games. Unlike CF, Ontario has never left a league, the league either imploded or they were kicked out. |
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Post by fanofthegame on Mar 31, 2021 16:32:37 GMT -5
Before Shelby and CF were in the same league CF was always one of Shelby’s scrimmages. Toward the end I noticed the sidelines getting smaller. When asked a couple of people told me the kids weren’t fond of the head coach’s old school ways. Maybe some younger coaches aren’t either. I’m not judging either way. Just what I heard.
I was always impressed with CF and how competitive they were in the OCC. Reminded me of home. We played a football schedule with one school in the same division. All the others were larger. We won our league more often than not and could easily make the playoffs at 7-3.
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Post by runriot742 on Mar 31, 2021 18:00:09 GMT -5
First off, it's absolutely true that Clear Fork is having trouble finding coaches. Second, it's also true that Carroll is still the head coach. He's still the head coach. He's somehow managed to run off many assistant coaches. Quite frankly, he's been less than nice to them. He's denigrated, insulted, and outright been mean to assistant coaches. He's had the opportunity for former head-coaches to come back to their hometown, but he's decided to become such a less than nice person, they've declined a job opportunity. Clear Fork, is having trouble finding coaches. Coaches have left. They are still teachers, however, they do not want to be part of the program. They want to see success, however, they just cannot take the mental abuse which Carroll implements. There is no reason that even his "brother" needs to leaves a practice wherein he was coaching the defense, and have such a berating which the other needs to step away. Many former traditional Clear Fork gridiron heroes want to be a part of the program. However, Dave, has continuously ignored, these former individuals. Instead, he's disallowed any individual with any football knowledge, to be silenced. I know former individuals, who want to be part of the alumni celebrations, however, even when they've reached out Dave they've been meant with silence. These are individuals who sweat and bled for Clear Fork Football. However, they did not live up to Clear Fork football ideals in one form or another. It was not that they were good men, its that they were not Dave's men. once in southwest Ohio, and he punched down. He's the Ontario of NwEOh coaches. Somehow, he asks his coaches to break down film on sundays, and still can't break out past the second round. Until then, they'll set the record for just being choke artist-ists. this is a heck of a post just to troll. Unless.... you are Dave haha Impressive right? lol. I'm just glad it's created a spark of conversation. Which is always my ultimate goal. |
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Post by runriot742 on Mar 31, 2021 18:01:37 GMT -5
Somehow, he asks his coaches to break down film on sundays, and still can't break out past the second round. Until then, they'll set the record for just being choke artist-ists. Poor babies...there was a time when coaches would camp out in the parking lot at All Prints until midnight waiting on game film to be processed, then stay up until 6:00AM breaking it down. Then Sundays they'd put together scouting reports so the players would have them Monday morning. I'm still learning on how to convey tone... lol. But, I don't think in this instance I was denigrating any work ethic of coaches per se'. |
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Post by dude on Mar 31, 2021 18:06:52 GMT -5
Poor babies...there was a time when coaches would camp out in the parking lot at All Prints until midnight waiting on game film to be processed, then stay up until 6:00AM breaking it down. Then Sundays they'd put together scouting reports so the players would have them Monday morning. I'm still learning on how to convey tone... lol. But, I don't think in this instance I was denigrating any work ethic of coaches per se'. Don't concern yourself. NOBODY camps in a parking lot waiting for film anymore. In today's coaching it can be emailed within an hour after the game and broke down before Saturdays practice. |
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Post by runriot742 on Mar 31, 2021 18:16:48 GMT -5
I'm still learning on how to convey tone... lol. But, I don't think in this instance I was denigrating any work ethic of coaches per se'. Don't concern yourself. NOBODY camps in a parking lot waiting for film anymore. In today's coaching it can be emailed within an hour after the game and broke down before Saturdays practice. That's true, especially with programs like hudl and what not. I'm also still trying to learn forum etiquette. lol |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Mar 31, 2021 19:02:39 GMT -5
Clear Fork was the smaller school in the OCC but most coaches didn't mind the challenges if it made them better. Going to the moac like Ontario going to the ncc did not help to extend our football season. It only increased our regular season wins. When Ontario went to the NCC, it was that or be an independent, there were no other league options at the time. Making it a no brainer. ALL the NCC school wanted Ontario. When Ontario joined the NCC Bucyrus was larger than Ontario and Ontario was DIII as were all other schools except for BC. Over the next 25 years Ontario had people move into their district and they became a DII, the other Districts had people leave. Not Ontario's fault. SO the NCC kicked Ontario out, once again it was the NOL or be an independent. Ontario's short run in the NOL was successful in athletics, until the NOL imploded. If I remember correctly it was a similar scenario for CF, it was the OCC or be an independent. If the league a school is in does not help garner a lot Harbin Points, the solution is quite simple. An 8 school league means there are 3 non-league games. Schedule up and win those 3 games. Unlike CF, Ontario has never left a league, the league either imploded or they were kicked out. Wasn’t Bucyrus still in the NOL when Ontario joined the NCC? |
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Post by dude on Mar 31, 2021 20:44:14 GMT -5
When Ontario went to the NCC, it was that or be an independent, there were no other league options at the time. Making it a no brainer. ALL the NCC school wanted Ontario. When Ontario joined the NCC Bucyrus was larger than Ontario and Ontario was DIII as were all other schools except for BC. Over the next 25 years Ontario had people move into their district and they became a DII, the other Districts had people leave. Not Ontario's fault. SO the NCC kicked Ontario out, once again it was the NOL or be an independent. Ontario's short run in the NOL was successful in athletics, until the NOL imploded. If I remember correctly it was a similar scenario for CF, it was the OCC or be an independent. If the league a school is in does not help garner a lot Harbin Points, the solution is quite simple. An 8 school league means there are 3 non-league games. Schedule up and win those 3 games. Unlike CF, Ontario has never left a league, the league either imploded or they were kicked out. Wasn’t Bucyrus still in the NOL when Ontario joined the NCC? Ontario was in the NCC for 12 years before Bucyrus joined. I'm not certain but I think Ontario joined the NCC as its largest member .Ontario was left out of the changes made by both the NCC and the NOL. |
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Post by runriot742 on Mar 31, 2021 20:55:09 GMT -5
To pivot this back to the upcoming season. Without being a troll or sarcastic, I do hope Clear Fork is able to fill their coaching vacancies. I hope whoever they do get to be able to coach motivates kids to come out and that it increases numbers. The kids deserve coaches who want what is best for them and I sure hope they get that.
Also, I hope Pleasant finds a great replacement which helps keep the competitiveness of the league. Conference games are at their best when you have several teams slugging it out for a championship. Because then win or lose--if the kids give their best-- they can hold their head up high.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Mar 31, 2021 21:09:46 GMT -5
To pivot this back to the upcoming season. Without being a troll or sarcastic, I do hope Clear Fork is able to fill their coaching vacancies. I hope whoever they do get to be able to coach motivates kids to come out and that it increases numbers. The kids deserve coaches who want what is best for them and I sure hope they get that. Also, I hope Pleasant finds a great replacement which helps keep the competitiveness of the league. Conference games are at their best when you have several teams slugging it out for a championship. Because then win or lose--if the kids give their best-- they can hold their head up high. Well said. Both are well ran, proud programs that make the league stronger. Both were definitely down last year, but should be in the mix most of the time. |
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Post by dude on Mar 31, 2021 21:22:13 GMT -5
I always feel conference competition is at its best when the league champ has 2 or 3 losses. I hope they both find what they want in coaches.
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Post by wallacefan on Mar 31, 2021 21:53:05 GMT -5
Ummm...did anyone notice that Marion Harding just posted their Head Football job?
Where is Jerrod Slater going?
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Post by 4 on Apr 1, 2021 11:47:44 GMT -5
Ummm...did anyone notice that Marion Harding just posted their Head Football job? Where is Jerrod Slater going? where are you seeing that? He’s been running them through their offseason stuff and been involved on social media. That would be shocking. He was very good there as an assistant on some decent teams. Has had less talent lately but also hasn’t done anything with it. |
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Post by wallacefan on Apr 1, 2021 12:09:18 GMT -5
Ummm...did anyone notice that Marion Harding just posted their Head Football job? Where is Jerrod Slater going? where are you seeing that? He’s been running them through their offseason stuff and been involved on social media. That would be shocking. He was very good there as an assistant on some decent teams. Has had less talent lately but also hasn’t done anything with it. From OHSAA Jobs site: Marion Harding Seeks Head Varsity Football Coach Marion Harding is seeking a Head Varsity Football Coach. Please submit application materials online via the Marion City Schools District website at www.marioncityschools.org/ApplyatMarionCitySchools.aspx ; Please also submit application materials to Athletic Director Sean Kearns at skearns@mcspresidents.org. Job will remain posted until Friday April 16. 3/31/2021 |
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Post by maplecityjake on Apr 1, 2021 13:52:14 GMT -5
I always feel conference competition is at its best when the league champ has 2 or 3 losses. I hope they both find what they want in coaches. with me, when there are tri-champs. Sincerely, 1974 Class 'AA' Champs |
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Post by runriot742 on Apr 2, 2021 20:13:08 GMT -5
For Clear Fork's issues, I think that a really good guy they should try and bring back into the program and get involved is Coach Logan Slavisnki. He coached for senior high. He's a Clear Fork grad, the kids like him, he has the right temperament. He's a little younger. He played on the state championship baseball team, so he knows what it takes to win.
A little bit of a throwback, but I also think that Aaron Brokaw would be a good choice to bring onto staff. Both of them contributed to success during different periods in Clear Fork's history. Aaron Brokaw, played for coach Dan Sparks during the late 90s where they consistently finished 9-1. He then continued success being an offensive coordinator for a couple area programs. Logan Slavisnki, was a standout for some of Dave's team including the one that went 10-0 and lost during the playoffs over in Tiffin. Both have good relationships with the junior high staff.
They're both involved in the program. They both care about the community. I think it would be wise for the h/c to consider involving them.
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Post by dude on Apr 3, 2021 7:11:29 GMT -5
For Clear Fork's issues, I think that a really good guy they should try and bring back into the program and get involved is Coach Logan Slavisnki. He coached for senior high. He's a Clear Fork grad, the kids like him, he has the right temperament. He's a little younger. He played on the state championship baseball team, so he knows what it takes to win. A little bit of a throwback, but I also think that Aaron Brokaw would be a good choice to bring onto staff. Both of them contributed to success during different periods in Clear Fork's history. Aaron Brokaw, played for coach Dan Sparks during the late 90s where they consistently finished 9-1. He then continued success being an offensive coordinator for a couple area programs. Logan Slavisnki, was a standout for some of Dave's team including the one that went 10-0 and lost during the playoffs over in Tiffin. Both have good relationships with the junior high staff. They're both involved in the program. They both care about the community. I think it would be wise for the h/c to consider involving them. What position did Slavinski play on the state baseball team? |
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Post by runriot742 on Apr 4, 2021 21:21:41 GMT -5
For Clear Fork's issues, I think that a really good guy they should try and bring back into the program and get involved is Coach Logan Slavisnki. He coached for senior high. He's a Clear Fork grad, the kids like him, he has the right temperament. He's a little younger. He played on the state championship baseball team, so he knows what it takes to win. A little bit of a throwback, but I also think that Aaron Brokaw would be a good choice to bring onto staff. Both of them contributed to success during different periods in Clear Fork's history. Aaron Brokaw, played for coach Dan Sparks during the late 90s where they consistently finished 9-1. He then continued success being an offensive coordinator for a couple area programs. Logan Slavisnki, was a standout for some of Dave's team including the one that went 10-0 and lost during the playoffs over in Tiffin. Both have good relationships with the junior high staff. They're both involved in the program. They both care about the community. I think it would be wise for the h/c to consider involving them. What position did Slavinski play on the state baseball team? Ah, I was severely mistaken. Evidently he never played. I could've sworn he played. However, I may have confused him and Liberti [sic] (spelling). That class was one of the most athletic ones to come through Clear Fork, so sometimes the individual athletes and their individual success blurs together. I apologize for that. Regardless, aside from specific baseball credentials, I stand by what I said. lol. |
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Post by dude on Apr 5, 2021 9:47:37 GMT -5
What position did Slavinski play on the state baseball team? Ah, I was severely mistaken. Evidently he never played. I could've sworn he played. However, I may have confused him and Liberti [sic] (spelling). That class was one of the most athletic ones to come through Clear Fork, so sometimes the individual athletes and their individual success blurs together. I apologize for that. Regardless, aside from specific baseball credentials, I stand by what I said. lol. I knew you would figure it our eventually.  |
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Post by runriot742 on Apr 6, 2021 21:35:48 GMT -5
I knew you would figure it our eventually. Thanks for always being jovial and be willing to stay with me through these growing pains. How do you think the Cf coaching staff shakes out next year? I've heard that Rick and Jared are coaching freshman. Which is great, because they are both enthusiastic and understand the kids. Rick has the former head coaching experience, and Jared (his son), has success at the middle school level. With Clear Fork, it's also helpful they have a reliable option in Coach Bailey. He's coached the majority of future all-Ohio players for Clear Fork. I believe he's been there for over 20 years now. Is it true that McCorkle and Wirick are no longer with the program? If true, that's a shame. They were both young and enthusiastic coaches. Who the kids really liked playing for. |
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